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dr.zin
06-27-2012, 09:35 PM
the first new s10 firmware in about 4 months.

cpr43
06-28-2012, 04:42 AM
Dr
Thank you very much
Any inputs of what is improved or tested by someone??
Where it came from?

dr.zin
06-28-2012, 07:04 AM
I didn't notice anything different except the date on the sys info screen.
It won't let me record to an ntfs hardrive so it was useless for me.
Looks like the previous versions.
Came from a euro site.

dr.zin
06-28-2012, 07:09 AM
Dr
Thank you very much
Any inputs of what is improved or tested by someone??
Where it came from?

Repaired new Irdeto,whatever that means.
probably has nothing to do with us.

SatelliteGuy
06-28-2012, 10:26 AM
I believe this firmware can also be used on the Skybox S12 receiver. Am I correct?

cpr43
06-28-2012, 03:12 PM
Dr
I give it a try on my S9 and it work perfect. It doesnt hide or shade the pull down menus. I wish they didnt remove the green boton when viewing the channels for an easy access to other sats. Only the red boton.

Guest
06-28-2012, 03:32 PM
Repaired new Irdeto,whatever that means.
probably has nothing to do with us.

Irdeto is a form of encryption which is quite popular in Europe and also used sparingly in the Americas.

dr.zin
06-28-2012, 05:05 PM
s9 also they say

TunaDude
07-01-2012, 08:37 AM
I have been messing with this one thanks dr z for finding stuff to mess with this is indeed a new one from this year first one i have seen i also use it on the open box s 9 i only use ku and have been testing this for blndscan speed and accuracy and so far this one is pretty good....


as an example i will use 72w ku there are at given times feeds like 11705v 11711v 11723v also hd feeds s2 like 11751 v 4599 symbol anyway what im getting at is many of these firmwhare when blind scanning miss tp while scanning like if there was say five active tp at the time it might miss it would find 11705v skip over 11711v hit 11723 and if 11729 was active it might miss that one ..

but but but with this new one dr zin found im finding as it blind scans what ever tp is acitve while blindscanning its finding!
i also aim at 99w ku with a lot of feeds and again when i blind scan i can see using this one from dr zin im finding pretty much every active tp at the time during blind scanning so this is in my opinion this is a good one to mess around with ..

dr.zin
07-01-2012, 01:56 PM
no way to edit radio channels,like the previous versions

TunaDude
07-25-2012, 12:29 PM
this 6 18 2012 firmware really works best out of any other firmware i can use for my needs in the ku band on my s9 it does blind scan faster and in comparison to many others i have.

and doesn't skip over stuff in a blind scan it finds stuff! im blind scanning faster and better like 99w ku near cbs new path if i blind scan with this version of firmware and 11806v 11811v 11816v 11822v 11838v are all active i get them ! with any other firmware id always seem to miss a few in there!

Now if there was a way to have the new 6 18 12 firmware altered like the modded foriegn s10 mac bird firmware dr zin, in that firmware you can blind scan in h or v only or both of course!

i wish i could some take this new firmware keep it as it is for the abailty to blind scan better and faster than any other version i have used and only change the screen that i could chose to blind scan in h's or v's and both ?

it can make for me blind scanning even faster .

72w ku big example when i blind scan it now using my open box it has to go first through h first and then v

72w only has that one religious chanel on the h side so why waste time blind scanning H's just choose v only. and 93w also ku to never any h tp's itc. so i choose to blind scan v only if i could.

since my tuner does work! on the modded s10 mac bird firmware on my s9 using it does have the option of blind scanning h seperate or v but that modded firmware is screwy at times and the picture quailty is not well when im using the modded firmware mac on my s 9.

but blind scanning with it on 72w and only doing the v it took me 1 min and 22 seconds and finished .. with even the new firmware one now fro 6 18 12 it takes just under 3 minutes cause of it has to do the h first...


i wonder can it be done? can you some how squeeze in the part to choose blind scan in h or v or both out of a firmware what ever the chunks are and then edit it into this new firmware replace that part with this part? maybe that dude who hacked the s 10 could that dude who made the red firmware on the s 10

anonymouSX i wonder if he would tackle it! i have been reading around in searches on this modded mac firmware from madives site and the s 10 hack folks using chunks of older firmware matching stuff so it boots and such


so maybe with this 6 18 12 firmware which i feel is the one i want to use on my open box out of any of the ones i have tried id sure wish this one could be hacked for the area of screens to simple choose to blind scan in h only v only or both! older firmware on s9 use to have this option when blind scanning?

dr.zin
07-25-2012, 04:56 PM
I still don't see the point
If you blindscan for wildfeeds you still have to scan v and h

TunaDude
07-25-2012, 06:16 PM
what saving time in a blind scan isnt a good point? and you dont have to always scan h and v on some ku sats? also to speed up a scan you can stop it once its at the point where you know there is no more wild feed then do the v side still faster than waiting for it to have to go through the h slot...... i really time stuff

and on sats like 72w thas a good point skip the h side go to your menu hit v only and scan 72w ku done in less than 1 and a half minutes.

also 93 w again same skip the h do v nothing on h side except scrambled so being able to change to v only is a plus dr z another good point... but what im rather know from you is?????????

so can you take a new firmware like this 6 18 12 remove the chunks where the antenna set up is and some how use the one from the modded mac one ? that one has the option to scan h or v or both? or an older s 9 firmware that had the h and v option to choose from? on the modded mac s10 in ant set up is where you can set it to h or v or both.


i know you couldnt see the modded bin on you s10 but on my s 9 i can and since this newest firmware the one you posted here is the best one made why couldnt it go one step further

so thats what id like to know since i have been reading back in a few places you wrote about this topic of moving chunks from older firmware to other firmware and of course it still boots!

all and all faster blind scan times with out misse stuff and if you can save a minute or 2 or even three by uising a box that has this option is a real plus on my traxis 3500 it has this option .

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dr.zin
07-26-2012, 07:06 PM
I always scan h and v,since with wildfeeds you never know what they are going to use.
A better tweak would be to be able to select the range of freqs to scan,like the old coolsats.
With those I just set it to scan 11700 to 12200 to speed things up.

dr.zin
07-26-2012, 07:09 PM
the same reason I use a standard ku lnb instead of universal,faster blindscan.
It scans 11700 to 12750 which is too much but still faster than 10700 to 12750

dr.zin
07-26-2012, 07:12 PM
even anonymousx has petered out it seems.
I haven't seen anything from him since there was snow on the ground.

TunaDude
07-27-2012, 01:25 PM
Wish i knew how if its as simple as finding the same 2 areas in the open boxs firmware the 6 18 12 one where it says antenna set up and then switching it with a antenna set up from a different firmware that has the choice to blind scan h or v or both,,,,, using some of those ali program the european site dudes made


for all i know dr zin you can master this quest of opening both firmware in a program and switching around the area and wala !

dr.zin
07-27-2012, 02:23 PM
you need the sourcecode for tweaks like that,which aren't available.

TunaDude
07-27-2012, 03:05 PM
well i guess so much for having the open box ever blind scan in h or v only on this firmware from 6 18 12 as in changing it

its not like i can write open box in china and ask for them to alter there 6 18 12 firmware and just add that one request besides who knows which factory made my open box maybe one day this othere dude in erurope comes back in the picture i cant even be a member in that forum called sataid tells me there not accepting members when i try to be one ?

dr.zin
07-27-2012, 07:14 PM
I got flamed there and left for good.
you could try stbhd.com
that's where the loader and editor programs came from.

TunaDude
07-28-2012, 10:16 AM
I got flamed there and left for good.
you could try stbhd.com
that's where the loader and editor programs came from.

thanks for that site but im all ready there lol many months ago i read about that place even registered read it now and then even tried writing to them about stuff like 6 months ago each e mail i sent to them came back to me as damon falure what ever that means i even posted questions there

its just after so many hours and hours blind scanning tweaking my lnb set etc trying almost every firmware i could find for my s9 timing blind scan speeds noticing if while blind scans is it skiping over stuf YOU FINALY FIND THE BEST ONE!

this 6 18 12 that dont miss stuff cuts down time on blind scanning compared to all the other firmware i have used and only and i mean ONLY IF I COULD CHANGE THE ONE THING i bet a simple thing for this box so it would blind scan with a choice of h or v and im SHIT OUT OF LUCK! DEAD IN THE WATER!


well i will write stbd again may be this time my e mail will make it on slow boat to china and be read lol

funny while there i posted i got somone to write me that instead of hoping for the open box to be improved i should look inot the new micro that was coming out! ??????? WHY THE MICRO ALSO MISSES the same stuff i write about in hard stuff to blind scan not one of the weak stuff i posted was found except one tp on 72w ku stupid harold on the religous feed the only feed on 72w h!

el bandido
07-28-2012, 11:50 AM
At present, all Ali receivers blind scan about the same and have the same issues with missing channels and transponders. You can look at the threads of any Ali receiver and confirm this.
Sales reps for the Micro HD are pushing a product that has just enough hardware to function. The micro HD firmware does have some extra options, but its firmware is Ali and its blind scan has the Ali quirks and bugs.

Most people do not realize that a blind scan is like trying to find a needle in a haystack because the transponders are not the same, and they may be configured differently such as DVB-S and DVB-S2.
There have been some improvements made to the average receiver's blind scan over the years including an increase in speed and a reduction the receiver locking or hanging during a blind scan.
I think some of my other receivers blind scan better than any of the Ali receivers that I have but none of the receivers that I have will blind scan everything that is available every time.
Hopefully the blind scan routine will be improved soon, but I expect it to be the latter part of 2013 or even 2014 before we see a vast improvement in the way our receivers blind scan.

Some people that feed hunt do not use blind scan much. They have a good transponder table loaded in the receiver and they do a transponder scan instead of a blind scan.

Logging the stream from the satellite may be another good way to find things that are difficult or impossible to find by doing a scan of any type. The best blind scanning receiver cannot find a transponder or its channels unless information about these items is sent to the receiver. EB

cpr43
07-28-2012, 12:24 PM
thanks for that site but im all ready there lol many months ago i read about that place even registered read it now and then even tried writing to them about stuff like 6 months ago each e mail i sent to them came back to me as damon falure what ever that means i even posted questions there

its just after so many hours and hours blind scanning tweaking my lnb set etc trying almost every firmware i could find for my s9 timing blind scan speeds noticing if while blind scans is it skiping over stuf YOU FINALY FIND THE BEST ONE!

this 6 18 12 that dont miss stuff cuts down time on blind scanning compared to all the other firmware i have used and only and i mean ONLY IF I COULD CHANGE THE ONE THING i bet a simple thing for this box so it would blind scan with a choice of h or v and im SHIT OUT OF LUCK! DEAD IN THE WATER!


well i will write stbd again may be this time my e mail will make it on slow boat to china and be read lol

funny while there i posted i got somone to write me that instead of hoping for the open box to be improved i should look inot the new micro that was coming out! ??????? WHY THE MICRO ALSO MISSES the same stuff i write about in hard stuff to blind scan not one of the weak stuff i posted was found except one tp on 72w ku stupid harold on the religous feed the only feed on 72w h!

Remember the guy from the north pole knocking the door to his neighbor selling a refrigerator? Mine is the best one and the best that keep food freeze!

dr.zin
07-28-2012, 05:24 PM
funny that the microhd has the moving dish nag like the openbox and they are blaming the processor.
But openbox firmware prior to may 2011 didn't have the nag,so much for that theory.

ViP3R
07-28-2012, 05:33 PM
funny that the microhd has the moving dish nag like the openbox and they are blaming the processor.
But openbox firmware prior to may 2011 didn't have the nag,so much for that theory.

It's the ALI chip that does that...far as I remember they all have that problem.. show me a file that does not have that nag. I would like to see it.

dr.zin
07-29-2012, 10:23 PM
anything pre may 5,2011 has no nag
4-4-2011 is my favorite
3-25-2011 is the oldest that will work on an v2 s10,there are/were 3 versions of s10
firmware prior to that doesn't boot,it must have been the transition from solomend/sathawk.
May 5 2011 was the first lan support firmware,but they screwed up other things.
The 4-4-2011 was the only release for april of that year.

ViP3R
07-30-2012, 09:10 AM
Thank you dr.zin I will load the 4-4-2011 file on the S9 time permitting..

TunaDude
07-30-2012, 12:06 PM
well this thread started by dr zin and him sharing the 6 18 12 firmware with us and the many who have written in it id just like to say again this new open box firmware dated on the inside of the info screen as 6 18 12 is the only firmware that i will use now on my s 9 and here is why!!!

blind scans faster than all the rest by about 30 seconds to a minute faster.

another reason is its not missing or skipping over active transponders that are close to each other like the rest of the firmware on openbox do.

im also not just blowing wind i spend time blind scanning during peak hours on ku sats i use 2 heavy feeds sats to base this info on, 99w ku 91w ku

both of these sats have a lot of active feeds and this one firmware 6 18 12 seems to blind scan with out the miss each and every time


a miss is lets say a ku sat has a range of feeds like 99w ku this is good way to see if your fta can cut blind scanning and see if its missing

during blind scanning of 99w ku, on the v side there is cbs new path 11787v 3979 always active then a 11792v cbs la mostly acitve all day

then 11806v 11811v 11816v 11821v 11827v 11832v11838v

i use this group of tp cause there close and around 4 to 7 pm there hot! not all of them are always hot but many of this 11806v to 11838v are active along with cbs news path and la news path 11787 11792 v all 3978 sym rate sd

using all firnware exceot the newest one there were times tp's were missed even though active and not weak in quality(blind scan missed but active)


i used firmware that was in the 2010 range the sep oct the nov everything in 2011 as well i used a modded firmware i have used stuff from euorpe asai not one firmware that i can download and use will blind scan with the speed and accuracy of this newest firmware made by someone somwhere in europe that was a fix for ird 2 somthing as its reported,,,,,,this new 6 18 12


of course i wished it would have the option of blind scanning in h or v like i wrote also in this thread already but all and all FINALLY IT'S NICE to at least have one firmware on my open box that DONT MISS! 6 18 12 long live it.

also the picture quality is great i dont have audio issues i dont have freezes only complaint is not enough folks blind scan in ku band like me to truly rate stuff!

dr.zin
09-02-2012, 05:47 PM
Now if there was a way to have the new 6 18 12 firmware altered like the modded foreign s10 mac bird firmware dr zin, in that firmware you can blind scan in h or v only or both of course!

antenna settings,set the lnb polarity to v or h instead of auto.
Then after scanning,set it back to auto polarity.

TunaDude
12-05-2012, 11:43 AM
hi rrob might want to use this firmware since it is on this site can it be fixed to be able for him to download? when you click dr zins link for the firmware its o nly a black screen? did he take it with him or somthing when he left? i have a copy of this but not on this computer?

ViP3R
12-05-2012, 12:25 PM
It's fixed.

SharinTv
12-15-2012, 06:15 AM
Thanks

I will try this firmware