Chip ID Clone?

[TurboPirate]

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[TurboPirate]

Really no body??

[el bandido]

What is this time bomb supposed to do?

There has not been a firmware update for these receivers for a very long time. IMO, find a firmware that works good for you and do not waste time looking for any updates because there are not any. There probably will not be any more updates for the S12 in the future. EB

[rrob311]

I heard about that clone kill nonsense with the Openbox S9. There was a method to find the chip id in one of the hidden menus. My chip ID matched one of the numbers. I believe that could have been for certain manufacturers protecting their firmware. Not sure how many people make openboxes or which companies are legit since they are mostly if not all in China. Sounds like a similar story to all of the S9 clone kill drama from way back.

The clone kill was supposed to render the box useless. (although I am sure one could recover using the serial port) maybe somebody was trying to brick boxes so they could sell the next model. Hahahhaahah

[cpr43]

If your box is not on the list or if you have any doubt that it maybe a clone DO NOT UPDATE THE BOX ANYMORE. The clone kill software will give you 9 times to do Updates and at the number 10 a message wil appear that you a clone. Whenever you disconnect the box again from the power line it wil NOT power up again ever and you will loose it.

How to identify clone Ali3602 HD Receiver (updated on Apr.18,2012)Dear consumers :
If you have an Ali3602 HD Receiver like SKYBOX S9, S10, S11, S12...there is a method to identify if it is original (quality goods) or clone.

Before identify , please backup your old software on the box by usb.


enter menu---tool---information---press "8888" key, now you will see CHIP ID . If the box CHIP ID is in the chip_id_list, congratulatation, your HD Receiver is original version! You can upgrade any new firmware to experience more new functions. Otherwise, You Box is clone version , please recover the software with the old version! This software will kill the clone box when power on over 10 times. If less than 10 times, no kill for clone verion.
the chip_id_list is the following, it will update everyday: (updated date :18/04/2012)

00D0
00EA
085B
0D0C
98A1
98F2
9CF4
9D1A
1015
0D7E
38EC
1466
10AA

113C

14D5

1474

1466

0110

1509

15AE

15CB

15FA

1801


When you buy a new box , try to view the chip_id_list on this http page. If you can not find the valid "CHIP ID" on the chip_id_list, it means your box is a clone box.

[el bandido]

At worst, about all a clone kill could do is erase the chip. Loading the firmware through the RS232 should bring it back.

[cpr43]

At worst, about all a clone kill could do is erase the chip. Loading the firmware through the RS232 should bring it back.

I have an S10 clone that I wasnt aware off. About the 10rd time I loaded a firm version, suddenly I begin to receive the CLONE message in my screen. The very first day I unplugged the box from the power line. When I plugged back the box was dead. No power up at all, no lights on the front panel, no "ON" or BOOT . Absolutely dead. No way to load anything using the RS232. Even, I tried many times to load it w/out luck. Using another S10 I was able to trouble shoot that the main board was fried. So I guess the clone kill does more than erase the chip. It will probably wipe out anything written on making the chip and the board useless.

[rrob311]

Carlos is the power supply supplying voltage to the board?

[cpr43]

Carlos is the power supply supplying voltage to the board?

Yes, it was. I have a couple of S10, so I begin swapping boards between each one. The dead clone power supply and other board worked ok when I swapped them to the other S10. When I move the main board from the dead S10 to a good one it was completely dead, not power up at all. I purchased a new S10 main board for aroud $40 which came with the Tuner and ethernet board in. I intalled it when I received it and the problem was solved.

[TurboPirate]

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[rrob311]

I believe my S10 originally came from shop4fta. It is a hacked together box, heatsink on crooked with extra glue hanging off of it onto the board, no washers and nuts on the lnb inputs, but when I checked the chip with the 8888 option it came up as 085B which is supposed to be original. So who knows. I heard shop4fta sold clones. According to that method mine is original.

[eastof111]

I bought my S9 over a year ago from Shop4FTA. It came with the original Euro ac plug. When the chip id scare came along, I checked and it was legit. Bought another from Ricks and that one had the U.S. ac plug and it also was legit.

I think Shop4FTA started going grey earlier this year. Recently, they conveniently went out of stock with the Alien.

[TurboPirate]

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[TunaDude]

At worst, about all a clone kill could do is erase the chip. Loading the firmware through the RS232 should bring it back.

el bandido is right about the RS232 to recover your open box i have loaded so many firmware on my open box its not funny i used clone one non clone ones i used the firmware that changes the open box into another type of box thats a fun one to toy with called foriegn firmware dr zin posted it here. it also blind scanned pretty good and with this firmware it lets you blind scan in h or v the post is still here if anyone wants to read up on that stuff,



Many times already i had to use computer and my 232 cord to get back my open box as in fix it! easy to do . ..... my open box s9 is original

so there is nothing out there thats gonna kill your open box so to speak (excep time) that you can fix it your self by using your computer and the 232 connection.

if you box is a clone or real dont sweat it! you can bring it back.... so dont be afraid to use differn firmware on your open box thats what i do!

worst case is you have to bring your box to the computer and in less than 5 min its fixed.