Eyebox X5

[Costactc]

Just got my new Openbox x5 yesterday. It would be great if we could create a forum for the review of this new receiver as it seems to have lots of potential. It comes equipped with an hdmi cable but a North American adapter will be required. I only tested it out briefly last night and have never seen a menu like this on any openbox/skybox receiver. Blind scan is lightning fast with its 667 Mhz high speed processor:


openbox x5 Features:



High-performance 667MHz 32-bit MIPS 24KEc Processor

Supports MPEG-2 (ISO/IEC 13818-2) MPaHL and MPaML for HD and SD decoding

Supports MPEG-4 (ISO/IEC 14496-2) extended ASP

Supports H.264 (MPEG-4 AVC, ISO/IEC 14496-10) MP/HPaL4.1 for SD and HD decoding

Supports RealVideo(RealPlayer v8,9,10), DivX 3.11/4.12/5/6/HD, and Xvid,Dolby

Supports WMA and WMA-pro, Dolby MS10 option, RealAudio

Supports various bit rates for MPEG-1 Layer I/II, AC-3 and E-AC-3

Supports HDMI 1.3 transmitter with HDCP, 1080i/p, 720p,576i/p and 480i/p outputs

Supports dual USB2.0 EHCI host controllers with PHY embedded

Supports 1-bit or 2-bit SPI flash memory

IR receiver/transmitter

VFD driver interface

Supports dual Smart card controller interfaces

Supports PCMCIA controller interface for CI/CI+ applications

MHEG5 HD middleware UK DTG Certified

10/100 MAC with PHY

Automatic and manual channel scan options;

Automatic service scan

Channel-change time < 1 second

OSD in many languages and skin-support

Multilingual support on screen menu (OSD): English, French, Deutsch, Italian, Spanish,

Swedish, Danish, Greece, Portuguese, Finland, Holland, Turkish, Czech, selectable

LED Display

Analog audio output: stereo(L+R);

YCbCr available;

1 x Scart (RGB, FBAS or S-Video)

Screen format: auto, 4:3, and 16:9;

Upgrade software through USB2.0 port;

Powerful program management function, parent lock;

Directly bouquet-lists

Electronic Program Guide (EPG) for on screen channel information

Subtitle supported

Teletext supported by software emulation

Parental lock facility by channel and program event

Program and Channel information transfer from receiver to receiver

HDMI HD Video/Audio Output

USB 2.0 Host

LED Display for service information

RTC (Real-Time-Clock)

Time Shift

Video Recording

Recording one channel and Time Shifting another channel (optional)

FullHD 1080p output via HDMI

AVI, MKV, MPG, TS, WMA, WMV, M2TS, FLV, DAT, ASF, MP3 playback

Software Upgrade support via USB, RS232 or Internet

Message, FAQ and User Manual support

Download files from FTP server





Award winning Dual-boot Linux Receiver

Conax Embedded Card Reader

Wireless Network & 3G Modem Support

Full HD-1080p



SYSTEM RESOURCES
Main Processor: 450M Hz based CPU
Flash Memory: Nor flash: 8MB X 1 ; Nand flash:512MB X 1
DDR SDRAM: DDR2 128MB x 2

Tuner/Front-end
Tuner Type: DVB-S / DVB-S2
Input Connector: F-type, Connector, Female
Loop Through: F-type, Connector, Female
Signal Level: -65 to -25 dBm
LNB Power & Polarization: Vertical: +13V/+14V, Horizontal: +18V/+19V, Current: Max. 500mA, Overload Protection
22KHz Tone: Frequency: 22?

[mountaineer]

When it says dual boot does that mean it can have E2? if so have thye developed anything for it.? Thanks and it looks like a good box.

[Costactc]

Not quite sure about that as I have never tested E2 on any receiver as of yet. I'm just deleting all sats from Europe and Asia and will be testing it out starting at 11w on c band. Here's a pic of the menu, kind of looks like an i-phone screen:


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[ViP3R]

Thanks Costa, this pic is a little clearer.

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[Costactc]

My camera has its moments.

[Costactc]

I have managed to scan all c band sats from 11-99w so far and I must say I'm quite impressed with this receiver. A bit complicated until you get the hang of it, its blind scan is the fastest of any receiver I have ever tested (under 1 minute for all sats and even under 30 seconds for some. Its tuner is quite sensitive and doesn't miss a tp which is quite a relief since you know that all that is out there actually scans in. I'm going to finish scanning my arc before testing out the other capabilities of this receiver.

[Costactc]

I've been testing the eyebox x5 for almost 1 month now and this receiver is a keeper for me. Its lightning fast blind scan, tuner sensitivity, unrivalled info, accurate clock and internet access have me spoiled. The only 2 drawbacks that I have encountered thus far is a slow channel change and the remote isn't as responsive as I would like it to be. All in all, you can't go wrong with this receiver and it's under $100.

[el bandido]

Award winning Dual-boot Linux Receiver

Tell us a little bit about this dual boot feature.

[Costactc]

Not quite sure EB, is there something specific I should be looking for?

[el bandido]

Simple.
Is it a dual boot like the specs say or is it a single boot like 99 percent of current fta receivers??

[rrob311]

Can you give an example of the channel info shown? Does it have manual pid entry?

[ViP3R]

I think they mixed up the specs..The X5 is Linux based but not a dual boot machine.

The one I have came direct from X Square Technology and included a USB WiFi adapter and came with a NA plug and auto detects your system, so booted right into NTSC with no issues.

It does scan fast and catches low SR transponders, the IR sensor is weak or not adjusted properly so the Remote control is sluggish for sure.

Software Updates direct from the internet works very well, most of the internet functions work but with some limitations,,IE weather forecast has only major city's.

The GUI is very nice and all the information that we look for is there such as HD,SD resolution, PID and manual entry ect ect.

The satellite list was a mess, out of date and not in any order..Costa was nice enough to send his list after scanning to save me much time.

They are working on a North American list with links I provided and an editor for you PC that they do not have at the moment.

It does need some work and they need to remove the IKS crap so they can import to NA! I am told they are doing just that.

Once they fix a few issues I feel it will be a good box.

BTW I should add this is an EyeBox X5 both the same But I think X Square Technology had to change the name..

[Costactc]

Here you go Rob:


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[Pixl]

How many motorized sat positions can you put in it? Most FTA boxes max out at 64. I need more. 99 would be nice to match the positioner boxes out there.

[Costactc]

I haven't maxed it out but it will accomodate more then 64.

[rrob311]

Where can I get one of these?

[TunaDude]

yes this eyebox/open box is making me want one to.

if the c band is blind scanning in 1minute or less and not missing stuff I hope the ku band is as accurate and also fast as well... maybe if either Costactc or ViP3R who has this eyebox can try a couple of ku sats out?

my spread of ku is good 72 83 85 87 89 91 93 95 97 99 101 103 105 ku im interested in 87 89 91 99 105 ku


87w ku if you can time it and can see if the pbs baton rouge blind scanned in and the ktel channel

these can get missed on 87w for me a lot when I blind scan pbs colors bars is 11802 h 1205 and ktel 12011 h 2169 and how long it takes to blind scan 87w ku. with the rest of the channels t hat come in.


89w ku this sat when you blind scan it many times during the day a lot in the morning and late afternoon there are 8 tp that are active off and on one is the Nebraska local many of us see at night and the weekends. 12192 h 2185

A lot of times I blind scan 89w and even though I have quality on 1 or 2 or even more of these 12192 h tp the open box skips right over them maybe the eye box blind scans them in when there active?

the tp are 12195h ,12192, 12188, 12185, 12182, 12178,12168 12163h all 2185symbol rates and on 89w it seems to take for ever in time to blind scan like 6 or 7 minutes with the open box so how long for eyebox


91w ku to see how much time on this sat mainly this sat at times finds a lot of feeds 6111 symbol rates 3978 symnbol rates no issue except time 4 to 5 minutes


93w ku this sat also seems to drag its ass in blind scan time takes for ever to go through the h side first not that it finds anything takes 7or 8 minutes somtimes



99w ku this is also a lot of feeds just want to see the speed on this one as well for me on the open box is around 3 to 3 and half minutes


105 w ku not so much for speed rather will it find the echo star itc channel that's hard to blind scan in on 105w ku 12123 h 1000


I hope you get these in soon to buy sounds like finaly a box that will blind scan fast and accurate that's all I want in box not to miss stuff thats there and not to take so much time in the blind scan it makes you miss the feeds! 1 or even 2 minutes will kick ass for me in a box

[el bandido]

If you do not want to miss feeds then get a good dual lnb that works well with two receivers powered on at the same time. You could have one receiver blind scanning while watching the other receiver.

[Costactc]

I'm not at home at the moment and won't be till the weekend. If I get a chance I'll slap the eyebox x5 on my ku band feed to test out some of those tp mentioned but only in a few days.

[SatelliteGuy]

Sells for $42.50 at MixeShop ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

I might just purchase one.

[cpr43]

Did you check the shipping charges to US????

Available Shipping Methods Rates
Air Mail (Register Airmail By Singapore Post,7-20days) US$29.34
DHL (DHL 3-5days) US$33.52
FEDEX (Fedex 5-7days) US$29.94
EMS (EMS 7-12days) US$41.23
UPS Rates (Shipping to US (1 x 1.30kg)) US$38.48

[solrackm]

its on sale at amazon.

[el bandido]

And it is on sale Here: [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[ViP3R]

X2 Premium and X5 EyeBox are two different boxes.

We have the X2 in the store cheaper than Amazon, and will have the X5 EyeBox once they sort out some shipping issues.

The Openbox X5 may be a Euro version, not sure..The EyeBox I have came NA ready as stated in post #12 .

[rrob311]

I am interested in the X5 but am still anxiously awaiting a review for it. Viper does yours have the component out?

[ViP3R]

I am interested in the X5 but am still anxiously awaiting a review for it. Viper does yours have the component out?

Yes it does.

[TunaDude]

anyway amazon sells this free shiping I saw it today so maybe if you want the eyebox x5 amazon will be your source to buy the box

[rrob311]

90 bux shipped? I won't be able to get one until I get the work situation straightened out but at any rate I merged the x2 posts into the other X2 thread to eliminate confusion.

[rrob311]

Can anyone comment on the functionality of the multimedia functions? Youporn, Youtube etc. I am mostly interested in the Maps function as I do a lot of travelling.

[SatelliteGuy]

Even better than ordering from China. I'll be placing my order as the X5 is available.

[SatelliteGuy]

$76.02 is not bad including DSL shipping. Heck, I paid $250 plus shipping for my Optibox Anaconda.

[TunaDude]

I will probably wait till legit sells them that's the least I can do for the site is buy it here... from this site im not in a rush anyway and whats making me want one is faster and accurate blind scan like I have read around a minute per sat but that was for c band sats.

since vip3r has this eyebox now can you hit a few ku sats for me today or tomorrow just want to see whats what on ku for this eyebox


hey Vip3r can you hit 99w ku 89w ku 93w ku just three how long does it take on each of these? then I don't have to wait till the weekend for Costactc

[ViP3R]

I will probably wait till legit sells them that's the least I can do for the site is buy it here... from this site im not in a rush anyway and whats making me want one is faster and accurate blind scan like I have read around a minute per sat but that was for c band sats.

since vip3r has this eyebox now can you hit a few ku sats for me today or tomorrow just want to see whats what on ku for this eyebox


hey Vip3r can you hit 99w ku 89w ku 93w ku just three how long does it take on each of these? then I don't have to wait till the weekend for Costactc

Time permitting I will try and switch over to KU tomorrow and scan those for you.

[SatelliteGuy]

I will probably wait till legit sells them that's the least I can do for the site is buy it here...

I certainly agree!

[ViP3R]

I will probably wait till legit sells them that's the least I can do for the site is buy it here... from this site im not in a rush anyway and whats making me want one is faster and accurate blind scan like I have read around a minute per sat but that was for c band sats.

since vip3r has this eyebox now can you hit a few ku sats for me today or tomorrow just want to see whats what on ku for this eyebox


hey Vip3r can you hit 99w ku 89w ku 93w ku just three how long does it take on each of these? then I don't have to wait till the weekend for Costactc

The X Square people got back to me to say the X5 they will not produce..Not why..They have something better coming very soon.
People can still get and openbox X5 if they like elsewhere but we won't have any input or contact for that,,different makers.

Anyway TD I did do a scan yesterday for you on the 3 you asked for.

99w - 2:05

sybol rate of 11856/h/998

93w - 3:22

89w- 2:42

[Costactc]

I find it a bit faster on c band for some reason. Just curious Viper, did you scan all or just fta?

[ViP3R]

Just FTA costa.

[ViP3R]

Also got a box delivered from Korea yesterday, this thing blindscans 58w C-band in 1:30 low SR and all,,many bugs as it's just a sample prototype..But I am impressed so far with the scan.

[Costactc]

I just scanned 4 c band sats at 83, 87, 89 and 91w with scan times between 1:30-2 minutes. Galaxy 3 at 95 took 4 minutes but there are all those racing feeds which slow it down.

[cpr43]

4:2:2 ???

[Costactc]

4:2:2 ???

No 4:2:2 Carlos and no volume either but the receiver recognizes the channel and displays all the info.

[cpr43]

Since the X5 will be sold here at legit I think its time to open sub forum for discussions and files!

[ViP3R]

Since the X5 will be sold here at legit I think its time to open sub forum for discussions and files!

See post #35 in this thread. They won't be sold here sorry.

[cpr43]

Okeedokee!! Thanks

[Costactc]

See post #35 in this thread. They won't be sold here sorry.

I'm aware of the fact that the eyebox x5 won't be sold here at the site but at least 2 members are testing this model so I believe a sub forum should be created as more peeps will probably get their hands on this receiver, just my 2 cents.

[ViP3R]

I will add a discussion and files section today..:peace:

[ViP3R]

You are now in the X5 zone! :smiley14:

[mengram]

Hello everyone,
Just wanted to give an update on the Eyebox X5. The box was a little more complicated than any other receiver I have used but after I figured every thing out, setting it up went well. The receiver came with an Atlantic satellite list (Costactc posted a NA satellite list, which was a good start but I had to delete several birds that I don't use (can't see in my LOS) and add several that I can see, all of which can be done with the remote). I was able to scan every satellite C-Band and Ku-Band from 58.0W to 139.0W. Most satellites scanned in at 2 1/2 to 3 minutes, the SatMex birds with their skinny SRs took around 4 minutes. All in all the blind scan is very fast and accurate as well. This is in my opinion a very good receiver for the money.
[Only registered and activated users can see links]
I will post more as I have the opportunity to check out all the other features.

mengram

[TunaDude]

good to see the info on this box mengram keep it coming im more interested in ku since I don't have c band but 2 to 3 minutes a sat and accurate is whats got my interest still in this box id also strip the Europe satlist and blind scan fresh and make my own sat list from blind scaning. if I decide to get one....

[solrackm]

I am having the same problem with fight now network.

[TunaDude]

this problem you guys are having with the fight channel maybe there is other firmware you could try? could it also be as simple as going into the channel and trying to change the symbol rate a bit as to see if that would may be fix the pixleation?

just guessing maybe its not blind scanning that one tp right and it off a bit? the symbol rate

Also there are different firmware around maybe an older or newer one might make the difference? I my self have seen a few firmwares out for the eyebox/open box x5 out this box from reading i see came out around june 2012 maybe one of the firmware would help this fight channel play?

[mengram]

So far, I have tried two new firmware updates, the latest dated 2-7-13 and adjusting the Freq. and SR up and down several points, still no joy on the "Fight Now" channel.
I also notice the receiver changes time when powered on. I can manually set the time, power the receiver off and the receiver will keep the correct time until I power the unit back on. Sometimes it changes the date and the time but mostly, it just changes the time.
Edit 2-17-13: I also noticed there is no option to set your location as the default setting in the Weather Application.
Anyone have any ideas or known methods on how to correct these issues?

Thanks for looking,
mengram

[mengram]

I just updated to the newest fw dated 2-27-2013, still no joy on the Fight Now network:hmmm:

mengram

[Costactc]

Sorry for lack or response folks, I hadn't noticed where this discussion was going. My x5 is also having issues with the fight channel at 121w.

[TunaDude]

removed my post due the fact it got a fellow legit dude mad at me!

and i just want to say to everyone im sorry if anything i ever post here has got you mad at me!

im not trying to get anyone mad at me! and to the dude who wrote me that pm i will say this right to you

got no beef with you before, during after when you was here when you wasn't here! what ever is in your mind is in your mind! about me....

hope that made you feel better to write that shit to me!

and i didnt buy the wrong open box i have the same one as viper mengram and costactc only difference is mine blind scans and some get removed when it saves the scan.... but hey my problem

[mengram]

I have not seen it erase any channels, KU or C-band; every channel I scanned in (approximately 1250) are still in the box. Do you have the Eyebox X5 or the Openbox X5?

mengram

[el bandido]

IMO, just because a receiver missed a few channels on a couple of satellites does not make it a piece of trash.
All of us here try to test and report on receivers to the best of our ability. FTA antenna systems will vary by a large degree and what works good for one person may not work well for another.

We want people to post when they have a problem, especially with a new receiver. There is a right way and a wrong way to post about problems. It is usually best to state what the problem is and describe in detail everything associated with the problem to the best of our ability, then wait and see what kind of replies we get.
It is not a good idea to post 1,116 words describing the problem and at the same time, find faults with the box plus any people associated with it!

My tests of the X² found it to be the best blind scan receiver that I have ever owned. The ONLY time I saw it have blind scan issues was with a few news feeds transponders at 89 west Ku band. This is not to say the X³ did not have other scanning problems that I did not see because I do not normally sit and stare at a receiver while it is blind scanning every satellite in my arc.

I do not know how the X² compares to the X5 because I do not have a X5 to test. It would be helpful to post in more detail of what the exact problem is with the X5. Posting some screen shots of the problem may help. Somebody here may have an idea of what to do to fix the X5 and make it scan correctly if more information on the problem is given. It might even help to start a separate thread for the blind scan problem instead of having it buried in this thread. Doing that would make the problem more visible to other people. EB

[TunaDude]

830 am 103w ku from today

12024 h 4232
12030
12036
12042
12064
12070
12076
12082
12088
12094
12028
12034 all h all 4232

at 830 am x5 blind scannd these in on the left side I see them then box goes to data savings here is whats left

12024
12036
12042
12128
12134
the rest get erased they scanned in I saw them so my 12 sd feeds on 103w ku are there but the box is erasing half of them ? so eb is that some or a few? of course the first 12 hd nbc feeds are all there and the other feeds in v like the hunting pier

now I take my open box s9 do a blind scan it finds every tp I posted up there and it found 1 more feed that guess became active in the time it took me to switch boxes and it don't loose anything when it saves them!

so I will direct this to you eb since I was insutled by somone in an annoying pm to me and turob pirate bess me colo you fooking liar!

so eb you remember those tp on 89w 12196 12192 2188 12185 remember findng all of them in the blind scan using the x2 remember you saying you only have one tp left 12196 and the rest got deleted?


id ask you to try 103w ku eb since you have a very good shot at it on your 1.2m dish but pixl has your x2 and pixl is to busy trying to get turbo stuff with his new toy.

maybe im wrong about the x2 maybe im right its just what happened to you eb on your x2 when you blind scanned 89 with it finding and then deleting channels is going on in this x5 to and im pretty sure both boxes have the same inner workings with the problem of data saving what it bind scans in

it s erasing stuff thats not only 3 degree's apart or 6 apart like 103w ku its doing it on 72w ku also yestedays had like 7 of those active yesterday in the blind scan I exit out I got 2 of them saved so 2 out of 7. 11736 11756 11756 was gone! so 11736 stayed 11756 gone thats 20 degress apart now that's not a 3 or 6 degress apart and good quality besides open box s9 go all 7!



now to the person who pissed me off yesterday why did you copy the post! I erased for you ! if it hurts you so bad why did you put it back!

[ViP3R]

Sorry for the drama folks..TD was spoken with to try and settle his issues, but apparently an understanding on how to act on forums are not understood.

I wish him well.

[rrob311]

I just scanned 4 c band sats at 83, 87, 89 and 91w with scan times between 1:30-2 minutes. Galaxy 3 at 95 took 4 minutes but there are all those racing feeds which slow it down.

Costa, did you notice if this box picks up the 1035 SR channels on 95W cband? They are 16apsk. I would like to know if the X5 works with these.

[Costactc]

Costa, did you notice if this box picks up the 1035 SR channels on 95W cband? They are 16apsk. I would like to know if the X5 works with these.

I haven't really noticed Rob and my bud is on the Atlantic sats at the moment. When I get back to the American sats I will put it on my priority list.

[rrob311]

Cool thanks, I have a line on these for 61 shipped so I may pick one up once I sell off a few other receivers.

[rrob311]

I just ordered one of these. I had a 50$ off ebay coupon so I ended up paying 22$. I can't wait to test it out.

[Costactc]

I just ordered one of these. I had a 50$ off ebay coupon so I ended up paying 22$. I can't wait to test it out.

Blind scan is about as fast as the x2 and its linux side is superior. My whole c band arc thread has been conducted with the x5 and x2, the x5 is inferior when it comes to tuner sensitivity. Overall though I give it high grades for fta and for $22 you can't go wrong.

[rrob311]

The Skybox F6 looks to be the same receiver as this with a blue outline around the front of the box.

[Costactc]

The Skybox F6 looks to be the same receiver as this with a blue outline around the front of the box.

They are identical, I wasn't too impressed. I even received an x5 users guide with my F6.