X2 with DiseeqC 1.2 Motor

[Costactc]

I'm thinking of installing a 4' ku dish to use in my upstairs setup. I haven't used a diseqc motor in years and was wondering how the x2 is with it and how to set it up. Receivers in the old days would let you move the dish manually, is this the case with the x2? I noticed that it assigns a number to each satellite position. I just had a look and got into the motor menu, looks quite simple. Any input will be greatly appreciated.

[turbosat]

I tried with a DG380 motor about 3 firmware-updates back and it worked fine. I was using USALS, though, not 1.2 so that may not help much.

[chifut]

Come on man ,Costa ,you are not a newbie ...Are you kidding??...
Drive the dish to '91 w -save on position #1
Drive the dish to'93 w -save on position #2....
.etc.

[dr.zin]

I use diseqc for ku.
Start low and work your way up.
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It's move and store,move and store.

[easily confused]

Come on man ,Costa ,you are not a newbie ...Are you kidding??...
Drive the dish to '91 w -save on position #1
Drive the dish to'93 w -save on position #2....
.etc.

I tried that starting at 55W and went throught to 125W. Found all sats, blind scanned all sats and saved all sat positions in the order that I found and scanned them. When I was finished and tried to go back to tp 3840 on 103W nothing happened. This was the same procedure I had used on all my other boxes and it worked on them but I have still not managed to find out why it is not working on my X2

[Costactc]

Come on man ,Costa ,you are not a newbie ...Are you kidding??...
Drive the dish to '91 w -save on position #1
Drive the dish to'93 w -save on position #2....
.etc.

Not a newbie indeed my friend. The thing is that I haven't used 1.2 in several years and just want to be sure, after all this forum is for us satheads to learn. I have always preferred 1.2 to usals as I can nudge the dish manually. I will set up all ku sats from Eutelsat 12 at 12.5w-Amc 21 at 125w. This install will be going down next Saturday as I am still waiting for the 250' of cable and my new invacom snh-031 lnbf to arrive.

[dr.zin]

the old firmware was a real pain if you had a mix of fixed and motorized.
The default setting for a fixed dish was actually motor position 0,so you start setting up a motorized dish and the dish would move to position 0 first,which was real tedious once you started getting up there in distance from position 0,i.e. you would set up sat 125w but the motor would have to move all the way from 0 first.
I told wang the default for motorized should be the last motor position that was set,so the transition from one sat to another would be smooth.This was fixed in one of the summer releases,since my x2 was dead at the time I never had a chance to test all the firmwares from june to sept.

[dr.zin]

when I got my x2 going again I had the motor set from 72w to 97w in about 1/2 hour.
In the past that would have taken all afternoon.
The only thing that slowed me down was the default tp settings for 85w and 72w were wrong and had to be corrected 1st.

[Lone Gunman]

I tried that starting at 55W and went throught to 125W. Found all sats, blind scanned all sats and saved all sat positions in the order that I found and scanned them. When I was finished and tried to go back to tp 3840 on 103W nothing happened. This was the same procedure I had used on all my other boxes and it worked on them but I have still not managed to find out why it is not working on my X2

So did you find out how to fix this problem? The one I got in the mail last Friday is doing the exact same thing. Sept 17the firmware was in it when I got it and still is.

[cpr43]

Hey Costatc or anyone using the X2 with a V-Box/G-Box please help this guys and let them know how is your X2 handling the 10 footers via the V-box. Mine is fixed. Thanks

[Costactc]

Hey Costatc or anyone using the X2 with a V-Box/G-Box please help this guys and let them know how is your X2 handling the 10 footers via the V-box. Mine is fixed. Thanks

The vbox 7 that replaced my pansat positioner is only being used as a stand alone. All sat positions are stored by myself and then I tell the positioner, not receiver, where I want to go.

[easily confused]

The vbox 7 that replaced my pansat positioner is only being used as a stand alone. All sat positions are stored by myself and then I tell the positioner, not receiver, where I want to go.

That is where the difference lies. Every other receiver I have had, I entered the sat # as I found and scanned them. I did the same thing on the X2 but it does not work in the same manner and I am working on getting the receiver to tell the V-Box where to go.

[Costactc]

That is where the difference lies. Every other receiver I have had, I entered the sat # as I found and scanned them. I did the same thing on the X2 but it does not work in the same manner and I am working on getting the receiver to tell the V-Box where to go.

Most receivers have hiccups once in a while and I prefer to leave it in my hands. I will be using diseqc 1.2 to move my 4' ku dish and of course will report back.

[Lone Gunman]

That is where the difference lies. Every other receiver I have had, I entered the sat # as I found and scanned them. I did the same thing on the X2 but it does not work in the same manner and I am working on getting the receiver to tell the V-Box where to go.

Ok so this is an ongoing problem that I've been beating my brains out for two days now trying to get it to work?? I'm not a happy camper about now.

And not only that, but this X2 won't allow me to use the same position for a C/Ku Hybrid satellite, ie, 72W is both C and Ku and I have it stored as P35 in my Vbox X. X2 will NOT allow me to assign that P35 number to two sats programmed in, ie, 72W C and 72W Ku?? That one is a deal breaker as I've got two systems that are mirrors of each other with ALL the sat positions between the two being identical in 4 different receivers so I'm not about to start reprogramming all that crap because this one won't do that.

[dr.zin]

you have to start at position 1

[easily confused]

you have to start at position 1

Yup, started at position #1 for 55 W then #2 for 58 W and so on to 125W. I have found that the only position it has retained is #1. If I power the receiver off, it immediately goes position #1 when I power it back on. I am sure it is just a matter of time to figure it out.

[dr.zin]

I made the mistake of playing with another old receiver today and used that to set 72w to 97w which screwed up the settings for x2 when I switched back tonight.It took about an hour to get the settings correct again.

[Lone Gunman]

I tried again this morning around 9:30am starting with P1 and so on programming in 6 satellites and that doesn't work either. I've tried it with firmware from April 9th, May 20th, Sept 17th and Sept 26th and NONE of them will allow the X2 receiver to move my dish via that Vbox X that my AZBox and Openbox S9 use with zero problems.

I'm beginning to think this is a defective receiver?? I've been fooling with this thing now for the better part of 3 days and still can't get it to move the dish.

[el bandido]

IMO, There is nothing wrong with the X2 storing Diseqc 1.2 satellite positions. I have 34 Diseqc 1.2 Ku satellite positions stored on mine. The receiver moves to the satellites that I have tested without any issues.

I think the problem you guys are having storing positions is simple to solve. Pictures and directions will be posted soon. If it works for me, it should work for you. EB

[chifut]

I 'm not a big dish guy , but I undestan that you have to store the positions numbers of the satellites IN THE V-BOX MEMORY ,not in the X box memory ...
ps I' m a big girl balcony guy .. hehehe j/k

[chifut]

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I made the mistake of playing with another old receiver today and used that to set 72w to 97w which screwed up the settings for x2 when I switched back tonight.It took about an hour to get the settings correct again.



I did it same thing with my Openbox 9 and X2 ,,,But there is cure , -Antibiotic ..

[el bandido]

Diseqc 1.2 positions need to be stored in the motor or positioner box AND in the receiver.
Try these simple steps if you are having diseqc 1.2 storage problems and see if you get better results.

(1) If you have a Diseqc 1.2 positioner box with the satellite positions already stored, then you may unplug the box to increase setup speed.
If you have a Ku motor that has the correct Diesqc 1.2 positions stored in it, you may disconnect the coax feed from the receiver.

(2)The X2 will store the satellites in the order that they are selected in. Diseqc 1.2 position 1 will be assigned to the first satellite to be set up, Diseqc 1.2 position 2 will automatically be assigned to the second satellite setup...etc. Diseqc 1.2 position numbers are automatically assigned and cannot be changed as of today.

(3) Select the first satellite that you want to set up in the Antenna Setting Menu of the X2.
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(4) Select Diseqc 1.2 in Motor and Press OK on the remote.
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(5) Highlight "Store" in the Satellite Setting Menu, then Press OK on the remote.
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(6) Make sure "Yes" is highlighted in Yellow and press the OK button on the remote.
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(7) Repeat as needed until all of the satellites in your list have been stored.
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(8) Apply power to satellite positoner. Reconnect Ku motor. Test for correct dish movement between the satellites.

Note: Diseqc 1.2 motor commands may be interrupted and all movement stopped if any button on the remote is pushed while the dish motor or actuator is moving.
Wait until ALL movement has stopped before pressing any remote buttons when programming satellite positions, scanning satellites, or while doing signal strength checks. EB

[chifut]

Yep.tHat's the steps for storing the birds in diseqc 1.2 motor option

[el bandido]

Ok so this is an ongoing problem that I've been beating my brains out for two days now trying to get it to work?? I'm not a happy camper about now.

And not only that, but this X2 won't allow me to use the same position for a C/Ku Hybrid satellite, ie, 72W is both C and Ku and I have it stored as P35 in my Vbox X. X2 will NOT allow me to assign that P35 number to two sats programmed in, ie, 72W C and 72W Ku?? That one is a deal breaker as I've got two systems that are mirrors of each other with ALL the sat positions between the two being identical in 4 different receivers so I'm not about to start reprogramming all that crap because this one won't do that.

There is a trend now where receivers automatically assign diseqc 1.2 positions. I have a few that do that and they all cost considerably more than the X2.
The X2 stores the satellites in ascending numbers. I do not know how you can assign two satellites to have the same diseqc 1.2 position number, but you can assign most Ku motors and positioner boxes several different numbers for the same position.
As an example, I have positions 35 and 26 stored in my diseqc 1.2 positioner for the satellite at 103W. This allows me to have two different satellites that will stop the dish at the exact same position.

There are several work-a rounds available for the Hybrid satellite issue that you describe. The universal lnb setting may also be changed to accept most c/ku combination lnbs.
Hopefully a future firmware will allow us to have user adjustable diseqc 1.2 positions. EB

[Costactc]

Neither of my 2 stand alone positioners allow 2 sat positions to be saved for the same bird. For example, F3 is stored on my Pansat ap3500 for Amc 6 at 72w, if I store A1 for the same position then I will only be able to use A1 to get back to that sat as the saved info automatically replaces the old saved position. I would suggest saving the sat position then slightly nudging the dish east or west and saving that position as well would work for the same satellite.

[dr.zin]

There is a trend now where receivers automatically assign diseqc 1.2 positions. I have a few that do that and they all cost considerably more than the X2.

my 10 year old Coolsat does that,so it is nothing new and so did my skyview and extremeview magnum.
My openbox s10 was the 1st receiver I had where I had to give each a number myself.

[el bandido]

THE RECEIVER IS DEFECTIVE AND I'M GOING TO ASK X SQUARE TO REPLACE IT IF/WHEN THEY REPLY TO THE MESSAGE I SENT THEM!

OK. Why don't we just leave it at that?
I have tried to help you and that is all I am going to do.
Your links to other sites have been removed. I am not going to draw this out between two message boards. Do not post any more links to other sites. It is hard enough keeping up with what goes on here much less somewhere else.

I see no need to continue with this thread because you have decided you received a defective, used, receiver.

Thread Closed. EB

[easily confused]

WOW!!! I have been slipping in and out of here for the past few days between work and trying to get ready for the family to arrive for Thanksgiving dinner, yesterday, so didn't have much time to read all the posts. EB..........THANKS!!!!!!!!! I just sat down, followed your very well layed out instructions and, bingo, it worked. I only set up the positions for 103W and 101W, just to see if it would work but even that would not work before. Again, thanks, and I do believe that Lone Gunman will be much happier at SatGuys.