AB Cryptobox 650HD

[rrob311]

I just got this receiver tonight. It is larger than your average receiver. It boots to the proper TV mode so no troubles there. The blind scan is stepped where the transponders are scanned first and then the channels after. The blind scan is pretty fast and accurate. 2 minutes 6 seconds on 99w Cband. The scan works properly with my bandstacked LNB. There are a lot of multimedia functions on the box that I will be testing later this week when I have more time.

Here are the specs:

New Dual Core CPU 2 x 600 MHz
New genetration High speed memory DDRIII
IPTV – stream internet TV broadcast
Android App. for remote control box, adding and changing timer and streaming TV broadcast to your phone or tablet
FullHD resolution 1080p
1x DVB-S / DVB-S2 tuner
1x Common Interface
1x Card Reader
1x HDMI port
1x SCART
1x RS232
2x USB 2.0 ( 1x Front, 1x Rear panel )
1x LAN RJ 45
1x S/PDIF optical digital audio output
Chipset: ALI3516
Flash Memory: 8 MByte
DDRII Memory: 128 Mbyte
Signal Level -65 do -25 dBm
LNB power and polarization
Vertical: +13V/+14V,
Horizontal: +18V/+19V
Power max. 25W
Frequency range 950 MHz do 2150 MHz
Video resolution 1080i/p, 720p, 576i/p, 480i/p
DiseqC 1.0/1.1/1.2/1.3 USALS 13V/18V, 0/22K
VFD Display
7-day electronic guide
Fast Scan
Time Shift recording and PVR function
PIG ( Picture in Graphic )
FTP manager, games, weather, stock market information, networking capability and many more…
Automatic PAL / NTSC conversion
6000 TV / Radio Stations
26 the favorite groups
Support FAT32 and NTFS
media player formats:
audio MP3, OGG, FLAC
video AVI, MKV,TS, TP, TRP, MPG, MP4
picture JPEG, BMP, GIF

General

Input Frequency 950 ~ 2150MHz
Input Level -65 ~ -25dBm
Input Impedance 75Ω
LNB Polarisation 13V/18V/OFF, Imax = 400mA
LNB Switching 22KHz DiSEq C 1.0/1.2
Demodulation QPSK ,8PSK
Reed-Solomon 204, 188, t = 8
Roll Off Factor 0.35,0.25
FEC 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8, Automatic
Symbol Rate 2.0~45 MS/s
DVB Standard DVB-S/S2 (EN300 421)
Video

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Aspect Ratio 4:3, 16:9
Video Full Resolution 1920 × 1080p and 1920 × 1080i and 1280 × 720p for HD video, 720 × 480p, 720 × 480i, 720 × 576i, and 720 × 576p for SD video, dual MPEG-1, MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 decode for SD resolution,MPEG4 AVC / H.264 and VC1 decode for dual SD and single HD up to 720p and 1080i and 1080p
Video Format PAL, NTSC
Video RAM 128 Mbytes
HDMI output 480p&480i,576p & 576i, 720p&1080i50Hz,1080P50Hz
Host Supplied Audio/Video I & P frame support
Format conversion Pan & Scan, Letterbox
Video planes 2 panes (1 graphic planes, 1 display planes)
Audio

Standard ISO/IEC 13818-3 (Decoding: MPEG-2 layer I and II (Musiccam),MPEG4 AAC and MPEG4 AAC-HE (AAC+), Dolby Digital (AC-3) with bit rates up to 640 Kbits/s,LPCM up to 48 KHz,MP3)
Sampling Frequency 32, 44.1, 48KHz
Audio Output Impedance Low
Output Mode Mono, Dual-channel, Stereo, Left, and Right
Processor

Chipset ALI35016
Flash Memory 8 MByte
DDRII Memory 128 Mbyte 800Mhz
Front Panel

IR Receiver 38KHz
Display VFD-segment
USB port 1 x
CA slot 1 x
CI slot 1 x
Rear Panel

DVB LNB input and output F-type – Female
HDMI output 1 x
S/PDIF 1 x
SCART 1 x
USB2.0 1 x
RJ45 1 x
Others

Power Supply Smps,Input AC 100 ~ 240V, 50/60Hz; Eureapean plug
Power Consumption Max 25W
Ambient Operation Temperature 0 ~ 40℃
Product size 280*233*55mm
Gift box size 296*76*310mm
CE, RoHs, EuP LPC,

[rrob311]

some pictures

[rodder]

I like it let us know how good is the Blind Scan.

[rrob311]

Its pretty good. Comparable to the Triplex receiver but a little faster. The bandstacked blind scan works properly. I might be having a switching problem to my fixed Ku dish so I haven't been able to scan that one yet. I should be able to try more tonight. But so far it is a great receiver for the money. Easily in the top 5 of the receivers I own.

[rrob311]

The tuner sensitivity is pretty good. I just did some testing and it looks like the x2 edges it out so far.

[cpr43]

Softwares:
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User Manual

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[rrob311]

I tried an x2 wifi adapter and it didn't recognize it. I will test the network functions later with either the ethernet port or if I can find a usb wifi stick that works with it.

[rodder]

How is the AB Cryptobox 650HD working out rrob311

[rrob311]

It is excellent so far. I haven't tried to update it or hook it up to the internet yet but I should be able to test it more in the next couple of days. Certainly worth what I paid. About 100$ shipped.

[rodder]

I am thinking about one of theses could you tell me where you got it Thanks

[rrob311]

There is a few left on ebay. There is also a 652hd model which is basically the same except it has a dvb-t tuner for Europe.

[rodder]

Well i ordered a 650HD maybe it will be here in about a week.

[rodder]

Still waiting on mine it finally made it to New York.

[manicscrewdriver]

RRob is there any chance you could put some pictures of this boxes interface, Menu, tuning etc etc..

It looks like quite a nice looking receiver.

Edit: I was just looking for one on ebay and ended up buying an AB Prismcube Ruby instead :doh:

I like a challenge and its only £40 i've spent ($82 CAD / $60 US ):D

[rrob311]

Here are some more pictures. I see you have the Prismcube Ruby. Isn't that box the next step up from this one?

[rrob311]

This receiver will allow you to change the name of a channel and then it will stay the same when you run another scan. Although I believe it makes a duplicate channel. There are a couple of settings that I need to test to see how they work.

[manicscrewdriver]

Here are some more pictures. I see you have the Prismcube Ruby. Isn't that box the next step up from this one?

Its pure XBMC with 2 satellite tuners.

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I know you can get them brand new for about $170 CAD from a store in Germany although you may have to enquire about shipping across the pond as they mostly deal within Europe. They were over $600 CAD when they were first released, although i think they were a bit of a flop as most people were expecting an operating system similar to Enigma 2. There were also a lot of early teathing problems with them.

They support MGCamd and OSCam emus so that makes them even more usable on the satellite side, although for me the main reason for purchase is for the move across the pond as to start with XBMC will be my main souce of viewing until i get either cable or satellite TV.

I know it was available in several guises from AB, Vu+, KASYS, and Openbox, same box made by Marusys with different branding depending on where in the world its sold. It should be an interesting bit of kit to play with.

I shall probably put the Blackhole Prismcube image on it and then take it from there.

[rodder]

I finally got mind all it has is eastern sats do you have to put in western sats manually are there a sat list some where.

[rrob311]

I haven't made one yet. I just added like 10 or so. My list is a work in Progress. I haven't touched the firmware either as it works pretty well as is.

[rodder]

do you know if you can use clarke tech editor to make a sat list and did you ever get wifi to working.

[rrob311]

I haven't tried the editor but the wifi did work when I plugged in a good wifi stick.

[rodder]

having a problem with it booting every few min did you have a problem with that be my luck i got a bad one.

[rodder]

i contacted seller he told me to load 30.06 firmware which i did now i have no antenna settings no place to input sat settings and it is still booting

[rrob311]

No mine has never rebooted on me at all.

[rodder]

well seems like i have a bad receiver they want me to send it back it is still booting all the time.

[rrob311]

Thats a bummer. Hopefully you can get it sorted out asap.

[rodder]

we made one last try to fix it and so far it is working we did a double factory reset then loaded 30.06 firmware and it is not booting for now.

[rodder]

Hi rrob311 were you able to get 16 APSK i tried it yesterday on the golf feeds and could not get them

[rrob311]

The only channels I watched with it that are allegedly 16apsk is on the open mux on 97w. It worked on those. Many people say they are 16apsk.

[rrob311]

One thing I noticed with this is it booted to PAL mode. My TV does both modes so I never bothered to change it. I switched it to 1080p mode and the screen flickers so I switched it to 1080i and all is well.

[rodder]

Mine is not booting now but if you are in the setting menu the screen goes black every few min's. i was going to sent it back but cost more to send it back then it is worth.

[rrob311]

I would file a paypal dispute if it was through ebay. Can you try a different video output in the rear to try and narrow it down?

[rodder]

yes i have tried other outputs and 3 different firmware. yes tried paypal but he has in his listing buyer is responsible for return shipping he will take it back but shipping is $56

[rrob311]

Does the screen go black when there is no coax hooked up to the receiver?

[rodder]

i haven't tried that will try it next.

[rodder]

With no coax hooked up it has not blacked out. I hooked up just the c-band coax and it is still running good. I had this hooked up running my c-band and ku thru a diseqc switch i don't believe this receiver will handle it
it worked fine on the D-15.

[rrob311]

How long is your cable run? Maybe you can try a new switch/cable and recheck all connections. I have signal problems but they're mostly due to having a long run and multiple switches that are not protected from the elements.

[Silverado5150]

Some of the switches I have pass power to LNBFs not currently selected which seems strange but true. I didn't believe it until I tested a Digiwave 8x1 switch that had cascades through 2 other switches outside on the dish farm. That sort of scenario puts unnecessary parasitic current draw on the power output of the receiver. When I was running a microHD STB, it had sometimes long delays when switching. It couldn't handle what I was trying to do and starting indicating a short circuit message onscreen which was really overload due to the setup configuration. Some boxes may react in different ways.

I agree with rrob311 about the cable and and the elements, add some moisture and corrosion and it might be too much?

[rodder]

cable run 60ft yes i tried another switch it strange it only blacked out while in settings while watching a picture it stays steady