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Externet
03-13-2016, 01:12 PM
Hi.
Looking for any very experienced Premium Mini user to hold my hand. It is about understanding how blind searching works.
Thanks.

cpr43
03-13-2016, 02:20 PM
What do you need to know about blindscanning? Most of the boxes will look and download the TP freq/SR for you. Once the TPs are found it will automatically download the channels. Some tuner boxes are more accurate and better than others finding them. The Premium Mini is an average tuner box which will miss now and then some TPs.

Externet
03-14-2016, 08:18 PM
Hi Carlos.
After aiming the dish to a gap in the sky hoping to find something or trying to see what is there; On the X2 Mini Premium I hit

Menu ---> Installation ---> Blind scan ---> Shows a list of all the satellites (factory settings ?) WHY ?.

Why am I prompted to choose a satellite in order to proceed with a 'blind search' ??? If it is a blind search I expect the receiver to scan whatever reaches the antenna; and save results. Later, depending on what is saved, find out by internet which satellite do those channels come from and name the satellite ?
(is that normal or can do the 'blind search' without picking a satellite ?)

Finally got NHK-Japan-58W, wonderful solid images on 75% signal strength and 0% signal quality WTF ? :tantrum:

Please educate me. Thanks

el bandido
03-14-2016, 09:19 PM
Why am I prompted to choose a satellite in order to proceed with a 'blind search' ???

The receiver would like to know what satellite the blindscan information will belong to. Blindscan is not usually able to identify the satellite, so you have to tell it which one you are searching.
There is no law that says you cannot scan several different satellites under the same name though. It is a good idea to use a satellite with the same antenna settings such as C or Ku band if you want to scan several different satellites under one name.





0% signal quality

Signal Strength for your receiver is nothing more than a line amplifier measurement. Our lnbs have line amps in order to hold the 1 or 2 GHz signal up while it travels down the lossy line that is between the lnb and receiver. Sometimes this is referred to as the L signal. The value of this signal does not mean much except to tell you that the lnb should be healthy or in good working order.

The percent of Quality is a measure of the actual signal that is being received from the satellite. 0% Signal Quality means that no measurable signal is being received from the satellite for that particular transponder frequency.

cpr43
03-14-2016, 09:26 PM
No idea what you are trying to do. Are you sending a dish randomly with no coordinates in the sky and trying to do blindscannings? Yes, the Premium Mini and many other boxes will need to pick at least one sat in which you will set your LNB type so you can have accurate TP/SR readings. I guess you can choose anyone based on what you want to do. The best is to try to set your dish to any known sat that you know you can reach (footprint) so you can use that as your reference point.

migold
03-14-2016, 09:27 PM
You can 'Blind Scan' one or more satellites at a time with most receivers. Do realize that the satellite dish 'points' at only one satellite at a time, and the receiver will only get signals from that one satellite, until the dish is re-positioned to point at another satellite. The dish is like a telescope, it sees what it is pointed at. To scan multiple satellites, the receiver must use a motor to move the dish between satellites.

Externet
03-15-2016, 09:41 AM
Thanks, fellows.

0% Signal Quality means that no measurable signal is being received from the satellite for that particular transponder frequency.

----> I get a superb reception/image from NHK-58W when is showing 0% quality. Better than other satellites/channels reporting ~43%+ quality.

Carlos:
"No idea what you are trying to do. Are you sending a dish randomly with no coordinates in the sky and trying to do blindscannings? ..."

----> Yes. Properly aimed in elevation to the geostationary belt, sweeping/scanning azimuth/longitudes one at a time. Is there anything wrong attempting that ?

migold:
----> Yes, blind-scanning one position at a time.

cpr43
03-15-2016, 10:54 AM
Thanks, fellows.


Carlos:
"No idea what you are trying to do. Are you sending a dish randomly with no coordinates in the sky and trying to do blindscannings? ..."

----> Yes. Properly aimed in elevation to the geostationary belt, sweeping/scanning azimuth/longitudes one at a time. Is there anything wrong attempting that ?



Nothing wrong on what you're attempting. We're just trying to figure it out what do you want to do so we can help.