Octagon SF8008 Supreme

[el bandido]

Octagon released an updated version of the SF8008 about a month ago. This updated version is called the SF8008 Supreme. The main difference from the previous SF8008 model is the Sf8008 Supreme has provisions for an internal solid state drive or hard drive.

Another difference is the tuner - demod combination. The Octagon SF8008 identifies the tuner as Silabs, si2166D. The SF8008 Supreme identifies the tuner as Avalink, AVL62X1. The SF8008 Supreme also has better wifi capability, but really, other than these items, nothing else is different.

The SF8008 Supreme needs a bit of work. The Supreme blindscan is not as good as the SF8008, and the Supreme is not capable of receiving transponders with a symbol rate less than (about) 1000. The SF8008 is capable of receiving transponders with symbol rates less than 300.

It should be noted that Octagon will be busy with other projects until around 02-20-2024. The SF8008 Supreme will probably not receive any factory type modifications or updates until at least the end of this month. From what I have seen so far, and my few days of using the SF8008 Supreme, the receiver is stable enough, but it just does not operate or function as well in some areas as the SF8008.

DREAMPORTUGAL will be selling the SF8008 Supreme, and this would be my recommend and preferred location for purchasing this receiver in the United States.

Currently the Sf8008 and the SF8008 Supreme share the same enigma2 image. These two receivers also share the same remote, which can be good or bad, depending on your application of the receiver.

I have only had the SF8008 Supreme for a few days, and have not had much free time to test it. More information about this receiver should follow in this thread. SF8008 Supreme updates and modifications are also expected, but they are not guaranteed. Do Not Buy the SF8008 Supreme unless you are happy with the way it performs now because factory updates for it may never come.

On a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being the worst and 10 being the best, I would give the Sf8008 Supreme a 7. Yes, there are things that need work, but overall, it is just an updated version of the SF8008.

[el bandido]

The SF8008 and the SF8008 Supreme identify as the same receiver. The SF8008 and SF8008 Supreme both identify as SF8008. This can be very confusing when trying to transfer files. Hopefully identification will be fixed by Octagon.

Shown below are a recent blindscan of 117w between the SF8008 and SF8008 Supreme. Scan logs are also attached. Some receiver menus have been modified to show the receiver model. This was done to remove confusion as to which receiver you are looking at.

The SF8008 logged 70 transponders. The SF8008 Supreme logged 68.

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(Scan files are attached.)

[el bandido]

The SF8008 Supreme has the ability to show signal below lock without any driver modifications. There are some enigma2 modifications that have to be made to allow this receiver to show signal below lock, but no driver modifications are needed. Other receivers such as Edision MIO 4K's need both driver modifications and enigma modifications to show signal below lock.

Being able to see the signal below lock is useful for dish aligning, and can also give an idea as to how much more signal is needed to view a certain transponder. I consider having the signal below lock feature a Plus, but I do not need it very often. It is a very nice feature to have though when needed!

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Transponders with a high fec, 8psk, and apsk will take more signal to lock as shown below.
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[el bandido]

AN internal hard drive (SSD) makes the receiver experience better, and is needed for movies, file loading, and anything else you want to store. IMO, if you are gonna buy storage space, get something with a good reputation. I purchased a Kingston Terabyte stick and installed it into the receiver.

Instructions on installing additional storage internally is included with the receiver. Installing the Kingston stick shown below took a few minutes, but was no more difficult than installing ram into an older computer.

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On a scale of 1 to 10 with one being the worst and ten being the best, I would rate the Supreme as an 8 after this SSD installation. We are on our way to having a good FTA DX type receiver.

[el bandido]

The SF8008 Supreme seems to find too many 16 and 32 apsk transponders on Ku band. I took some time earlier and compared the blindcsans of 87w and 103w that are shown below with a friend using TBS5925. The scans shown below were comparable to the 5925 TBS card, so everything is OK on the Ku scanning. It should be noted though The SF8008 Supreme does not currently find much of anything below 1000SR.




Scan Report

< File created on Tuesday, February 06, 2024 at 19:03:21 >
< Satellite = 87.1W Ku-band SES 2 & TKSat 1 >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 11700 to 12750 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner B: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11706H / 6667 / 3/4' > Tp# 1

< 'DVB-S 11781V / 5000 / 1/2' > Tp# 2

< 'DVB-S 11796V / 5000 / 1/2' > Tp# 3
< (1)11796V SID 0x5014 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 /> 1:0:64:5014:441:0:AA9AE14:0:0:0:
< (2)11796V SID 0x9c40 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 /> 1:0:64:9C40:441:0:AA9AE14:0:0:0:
< (3)11796V SID 0x9c41 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 /> 1:0:64:9C41:441:0:AA9AE14:0:0:0:

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11804H / 1250 / 3/5' > Tp# 4
< (4)11804H SID 0x08 /> 1:0:1:8:8:0:AA92E1C:0:0:0:

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11812H / 11150 / 3/5' > Tp# 5
< (5)11812H SID 0x04 /> 1:0:1:4:50F:0:AA92E24:0:0:0:
< (6)11812H SID 0x05 /> 1:0:1:5:50F:0:AA92E24:0:0:0:
< (7)11812H SID 0x06 /> 1:0:1:6:50F:0:AA92E24:0:0:0:

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11813V / 17900 / AUTO' > Tp# 6

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11911H / 2945 / 3/4' > Tp# 7

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11919H / 2400 / AUTO' > Tp# 8

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11960H / 29999 / 3/4' > Tp# 9
< (8)NS Ch1 /> 1:0:1:1:220:1:AA90000:0:0:0:
< (9)NS Ch2 /> 1:0:1:2:220:1:AA90000:0:0:0:
< (10)NS Ch3 /> 1:0:1:3:220:1:AA90000:0:0:0:
< (11)NS Ch4 /> 1:0:1:4:220:1:AA90000:0:0:0:
< (12)NS Ch5 /> 1:0:1:5:220:1:AA90000:0:0:0:
< (13)NS Ch6 /> 1:0:1:6:220:1:AA90000:0:0:0:
< (14)NS Ch7 /> 1:0:1:7:220:1:AA90000:0:0:0:

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11994V / 7500 / 3/4' > Tp# 10

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 12004H / 1383 / 2/3' > Tp# 11

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 12018H / 1000 / 2/3' > Tp# 12

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 12044V / 3200 / 2/3' > Tp# 13
< (15)FLCH /> 1:0:1:3:4:1:AA90000:0:0:0:

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 12050V / 4800 / 2/3' > Tp# 14
< (16)Lottery-HD /> 1:0:19:1:1:1:AA9AF12:0:0:0:

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 12064H / 2000 / AUTO' > Tp# 15

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12094V / 6182 / 3/4' > Tp# 16

< 'DVB-S 12098V / 1036 / 7/8' > Tp# 17

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 12114H / 11606 / 3/4' > Tp# 18

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 12136H / 3979 / 3/4' > Tp# 19
< (17)MSC 2 /> 1:0:19:2:1:1:AA92F68:0:0:0:<

Blind Scan Time = 8 Min. 13 Sec.
17 Channels ( TV = 17 Radio = 0) 19 of 19 Transponders Scanned.


Scan Report

< File created on Tuesday, February 06, 2024 at 18:48:00 >
< Satellite = 103.0W Ku-band T10/T12 & SES 3 >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 11700 to 12750 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner B: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11704V / 3650 / 3/4' > Tp# 1

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11720H / 14999 / 3/4' > Tp# 2
< (1)ENC-3 KU BAND MAIN /> 1:0:19:1:1:1:A0A2DC8:0:0:0:

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11765V / 5000 / 3/4' > Tp# 3

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11796V / 5000 / 3/4' > Tp# 4

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11830H / 12174 / 3/4' > Tp# 5

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11853H / 4580 / 3/4' > Tp# 6

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11875H / 20901 / 3/4' > Tp# 7

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11944V / 6666 / 3/4' > Tp# 8

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11955V / 2500 / AUTO' > Tp# 9

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11955H / 20898 / 3/4' > Tp# 10

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12000H / 30002 / 3/4' > Tp# 11

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 12055V / 5450 / 8/9' > Tp# 12

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 12080H / 29970 / 5/6' > Tp# 13
< (2)NTA /> 1:0:1:3:DBF:A:A0A0000:0:0:0:
< (3)DW English HD /> 1:0:1:1388:DBF:A:A0A0000:0:0:0:

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 12120H / 29999 / 5/6' > Tp# 14
< (4)Cozi TV Ku /> 1:0:1:1C:1:1:A0A2F58:0:0:0:
< (5)NBC East HD /> 1:0:1:3D:1:1:A0A2F58:0:0:0:
< (6)NBC Central HD /> 1:0:1:3E:1:1:A0A2F58:0:0:0:
< (7)NBC Mountain HD /> 1:0:1:3F:1:1:A0A2F58:0:0:0:
< (8)NBC West HD /> 1:0:1:40:1:1:A0A2F58:0:0:0:
< (9)NBC Occasional 1 HD /> 1:0:1:41:1:1:A0A2F58:0:0:0:
< (10)NBC Occasional 2 HD /> 1:0:1:42:1:1:A0A2F58:0:0:0:
< (11)NBC Occasional 3 HD /> 1:0:1:43:1:1:A0A2F58:0:0:0:
< (12)CTS Data Carousel /> 1:0:C:44:1:1:A0A2F58:0:0:0:

< 'DVB-S 12145V / 20000 / 3/4' > Tp# 15
< (13)WRAL FM 1015 --- UnKnown Service Type 7: /> 1:0:7:3F7:1:0:A0AAF71:0:0:0:
< (14)MicroSpace61 (Radio #1) /> 1:0:2:3D:1:0:A0AAF71:0:0:0:
< (15)Srv_7 /> 1:0:1:7:1:0:A0AAF71:0:0:0:
< (16)Srv_6 /> 1:0:1:6:1:0:A0AAF71:0:0:0:
< (17)MS81 /> 1:0:1:51:1:0:A0AAF71:0:0:0:
< (18)Srv_1 /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:A0AAF71:0:0:0:
< (19)Srv_2 /> 1:0:1:2:1:0:A0AAF71:0:0:0:
< (20)Srv_3 /> 1:0:1:3:1:0:A0AAF71:0:0:0:
< (21)Srv_5 /> 1:0:1:5:1:0:A0AAF71:0:0:0:
< (22)OU_Test /> 1:0:1:2C:1:0:A0AAF71:0:0:0:<

Blind Scan Time = 6 Min. 31 Sec.
22 Channels ( TV = 21 Radio = 1) 15 of 15 Transponders Scanned.

[eastof111]

I guess they got carried away in their advertising....
Symbol rates of 100 – 80,000 SR
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[eastof111]

How to answer with a good sales/marketing response......lol

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Wed 2/7/2024 5:38 AM
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yes start from sr 100.
blindscan works, on unicable blindscan you need to test, should be works


> But another question.....
>
> If the tuners can do blind scan, would unicable lnb's work with the tuners?
> AND, would the tuners be able to blind scan with the unicable lnb's?

> Also, can this receiver really blind scan signals with 100 symbol rates or is
> that just a typo error in your advertising?

> Thanks again,

[el bandido]

Currently, The lowest symbol rate transponder that the SF8008 Supreme can resolve is 833 on 117w. There is an active transponder on 87w ku that has a symbol rate of 593. The SF8008 can scan and play the radio channels on this transponder, but the SF8008 Supreme cannot.

Myu experience with Avalink is it will work down to around a 500 symbol rate with modifications, but cannot go lower than that. The Edision MIO receivers also have Avalink and 833 symbol rate is as low as they will go without modifications to the Avalink driver. SO IMO the Octagon salesman is selling and is not being realistic about the low symbol rate capability of the SF8008 Syupreme. Let's see if they modify the driver.

[eastof111]

Don't really think they do actual live testing to see if the units meet the specs. Most likely they quote the specs from the data sheets supplied by the component designers.

[el bandido]

Octagon or anyone else that makes non-commercial fta equipment does not care. Specs mean absolutely Nothing as we see here with the low symbol rate. Whatever the specs show, the receiver or equipment should be capable of, or able to meet advertised specs. But for us with the homeowner fta equipment, specs are eye candy.

Octagon may not have the equipment needed to test the low symbol rate, but other people do. Octagon simply does not care IMO. It's all about selling the receiver and nothing else really matters as long as the receiver is being sold.

[el bandido]

Decent Blindscan results.

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[el bandido]

Octagon SF8008 Supreme has the ability to show signal below lock with some changes to enigma2. Other enigma2 receivers can also show signal below lock If the drivers are modified, and changes are made to enigma2. Provisions to show signal nelow lock will be available in Antenna setup as shown below.

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[el bandido]

Record a whole mux? No problem. This is why I purchased a decent Terabyte internal SSD.
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[el bandido]

The signal below lock feature is useful for knowing if a signal that you want exists on your satellite dish.

I would like to find a DVB-S2 transponder on 121w. The transponder is 4160 H, 34286 SR, 16APSK, 9/10 FEC. Around 13 db is required to lock this transponder, and I do not have that much signal. It is possible the signal power will increase on this transponder, Or I can look at fine tuning my dish system. But the signal has to come up quite a bit. I doubt the signal can be increased a lot in tuning the dish. But at least I know how strong the signal is now and I also know the signal is present on my satellite dish without connecting a signal analyzer.

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[el bandido]

The SF8008 Supreme takes a long time to blindscasn the transponders and/or scan the transponders found in blindscan. Let's take at look ande see if we can find out why.

A very recent blindscan of 121w found 3 transponders in about a minute and a half. The total time, blindscan to find the transponders and then scan the transponders found was over 8 minutes. Shown below is the scan report.


Scan Report

< File created on Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 21:20:38 >
< Satellite = 121.1W C-band Galaxy 31 >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 3625 to 4800 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner A: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 3920H / 34286 / 2/3' > Tp# 1

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4020V / 29999 / AUTO' > Tp# 2

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4152V / 8300 / AUTO' > Tp# 3<

Blind Scan Time = 8 Min. 18 Sec.
0 Channels ( TV = 0 Radio = 0) 3 of 3 Transponders Scanned.

The three transponders that blindscan found were loaded into the receiver's satellite.xml file so they could be viewed in signal finder or Positioner setup.

Transponder 3920H Has No Lock.
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Transponder 4020V Has No Lock.
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Let's turn signal below lock Off.
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Now let's look at 4020V again.
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Two things to point out here.

(1) Having the ability to see signal values below lock shows you more of what is going on, and also shows that indeed what was found in blindscan does have a signal.
(2) The SF8008 Supreme is having problems or issues with signals that have no lock. From testing this receiver, I would go further and say the SF8008 Supreme is also having problems or issues with weak signals, but I have not yet been able to prove that.

It should not take 8 minutes to find three transponders and scan them.
The SF8008 Supreme performs poor in this area. Maybe it is something they will fix....Maybe not. We will see... But I would rather have a receiver that drags like this as compared to a receiver that rejects these transponders completely. Finding transponders is the key, or half the picture. The whole picture is to find transponders and their channels in a reasonable amount of time.

[el bandido]

The Edision MIO 4K shows the 4020V transponder at 121w as multi-stream. Looks like the SF8008 Supreme is not capable of understanding multi-stream.

Notice the time difference. Edision took a little over a minute to do the job compared to the SF8008 taking 8 minutes.

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Scan Report

< File created on Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 22:58:51 >
< Satellite = 121.1W C-band Galaxy 31 >
< Receiver = edision osmio4k >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5 >
< Kernel Version = 5.15.0 >
< DVB Driver Date = 0211-10-3a >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 3625 to 4800 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner A: Availink AVL6261 (DVB-S2X) >


< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4020V / 30003 / 2/3 MIS 18' > Tp# 1

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4125V / 7501 / 3/4' > Tp# 2
< (1)ATL HDENC18 /> 1:0:1:1:A0:FFFF:955901D:0:0:0:

< 'DVB-S 4151H / 13235 / AUTO' > Tp# 3
< (2)4151H SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:9551037:0:0:0:<

Blind Scan Time = 1 Min. 16 Sec.
2 Channels ( TV = 2 Radio = 0) 3 of 3 Transponders Scanned.

[el bandido]

The Edision MIO 4K, MIO4k+, and Mini 4K all use AVL6261 which is similar to the SF8008 Supreme. Modifications have been made to allow the Edision to receive transponders down to around 500 Symbol rate, so I would expect similar capability for the SF8008 Supreme. But I seriously doubt the SF8008 Supreme will ever scan or lock a transponder below a 400 symbol rate because I don't think Avalink AVL62X1 supports a symbol rate that low.

We can take a modified driver for the Edision MIO 4K and outperform the SF8008 Supreme --At least on one satellite. Currently the SF8008 Supreme can find a transponder and scan it with a symbol rate of 833. The modified Edision is good to around 500 symbol rate. A blindscan of 117w shows the difference, with the Supreme logging more transponders, but the MIO 4K logging more channels.

18058 <-------------------------> 18059

The SF8008 Supreme finds the transponder with a 833 symbol rate, but misses the transponders with the 600 (6XX) symbol rates. Manual entry of any transponder with a symbol rate below 833 in my SF8008 Supreme results in No Signal. We've been lied to before and we are being lied to again in the low symbol rate area of the SF8008 Supreme.

[eastof111]

Might be a good idea to send your test findings to their email. Would be very interesting to see their response, if any.

[el bandido]

Obviously the SF8008 Supreme cannot do Multistream on 121w, but it is advertised to do exactly that on their website.

- DVB-S2X 4K UHD & Multistream (T2-MI direct input)

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Don't get me wrong. I find the SF8008 Supreme to be at least a decent FTA receiver. I just Do Not like it when things or features are advertised that either do not exist or do not work. The SF8008 Supreme seems to have a couple of those...

[EnoSat]

If there are problems with the processing of some signal, fullTS is usually required or provided for correction
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[el bandido]

Thanks, but I will probably pass on sending a TS file because usually that is nothing more than a waste of my time.

The problems I have shown are not special or exotic. But they are problems. Multi-stream transponders with watchable channels are available here in North America on rare occasion. Multi-stream transponders are common in Europe, so there should be no need for a TS file from me.

[eastof111]

After ten days, my supreme managed to catch a flight from Frankfurt. Checked
flightradar and the LH400 landed at JFK today. It will probably vacation there for a few days and finally catch a burro for delivery in a week or maybe two.....lol

[el bandido]

Octagon SF8008 has 4 image slots. These slots may be mounted and files swapped between them. Be careful when doing this because there is little protection in the way of mistakes. If you delete something, it is deleted! The only exception may be the image that you are currently running. Some things might not be deleted unless enigma2 is stopped in telnet using init 4.

To mount all 4 slots a usb drive or internal hard drive is needed. Make a folder on the external/internal hard drive. Name the folder anything you want and then mount the slots using this command in telnet: mount /dev/mmcblk0p16 /media/usb/slot4

Let's look at the telnet command a little bit. My target folder is named slot 4, and it is located at /media/usb in the receiver files. mount /dev/mmcblk0p16 tells the receiver to mount mount mmcblk0p16, which is the location where all 4 image slots are stored. So mount /dev/mmcblk0p16 /media/usb/slot4 when entered in telnet mounts mmcblk0p16 into the slot 4 folder. To unmount, use the umount command or reboot the receiver. (umount /dev/mmcblk0p16 /media/usb/slot4)

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[eastof111]

Good to know. Looking forward to trying this receiver.

Did a tracker check today on DHL and it shows as leaving JFK on the 11th and going back to Frankfurt and then two different flights to other airports in Germany. Might just be a tracking error but there doesn't seem to be any further info on its whereabouts available. Sent an email to the vendor, will see how they respond. Hope it's just a tracking error.

[eastof111]

Kudos to the vendor for replying quickly with a tracking number with the US post office awaiting shipment from NYC. It's been sitting there since the 12th. The USPS equivalent to amazon's prime delivery......lol

[el bandido]

I find the receiver sensitivity of the SF8008 Supreme to be similar, almost identical to the older SF8008. The SF8008 Supreme shows a bit more signal than the SF8008 on a weak transponder, but the SF8008 shows a better picture on a weak transponder than the SF8008 Supreme. It is almost certain that I could find a different weak transponder where the Supreme shows a better picture than the older SF8008.

Finding a transponder that does this is normal FTA tuner stuff and really means nothing, except receiver A is doing a bit better with this particular transponder than receiver B. There is very little reception difference that I can find between the older SF8008 and the newer SF8008 Supreme.

The SF8008 Supreme may read a bit higher in signal than the SF8008, but that also means nothing. You are not going to get an accurate reading of satellite signal from a consumer grade FTA receiver. We could go into the enigma2 coding and tell it to give the SF8008 Supreme a bit higher reading in the signal area. There would be a group of people that would swear the Supreme was better and point to the higher signal reading as proof.

Weak signal TV picture comparison. (Neither is watchable as there are too many errors.)
------(SF8008 Supreme)<-------------------------------------->(SF8008)
18063<-------------------->18064

18065<-------------------->18066

[el bandido]

Showing a signal below lock is nice. A 16apsk transponder with a 4/5 fec takes a decent amount of signal to lock. Then you need a bit more signal above lock to see a picture or hear audio.

Shown below is a 16apsk transponder that was being used as a sports feed. The signal has been dropped a little bit, but that is normal considering the time. The SF8008 Supreme is still able to lock this transponder, but move the dish a click or two and the signal unlocks. On receivers that do not show signal below lock, you have a signal of about 12 db or nothing. Sometimes this is hard for folks to comprehend as to WHY this happens.

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Transponder Signals like the one shown above are WHY you need a quality lnb instead of a lnbf. You need every bit of signal you can get with these types of transponders. Bit errors add up quick!

Would be nice of other image groups would adopt what is needed to show signal below lock, but as of today, no other image group has made provisions for it. At least it works for me. :)

[el bandido]

A video demonstrating signal below lock is in the link below. Sometimes the signal hangs in Positioner setup when moving the dish, depending on certain things. Bump the dish one time to clear the hangup. Other than that, the feature works well in the SF8008 Supreme.

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The link will be up for a bit, but not permanent.

[eastof111]

I see DreamPortugal has the Supreme in stock now and they're selling it for 144.90 euros. In early February, ebay and the German site, TelevisionTech were selling them for 139.00 euros.

Hopefully, mine should arrive Monday. Really pathetic that it took 5 days to go from the NYC facility to the Jersey facility. The traffic on the George Washington bridge or the Holland tunnel must have been pretty bad.... lol

[el bandido]

Shipping from DreamPortugal using the expensive DHL is usually around 5 days for me.

I wanted to find out why the Supreme is hanging on both blindscans and Service Scans. The receiver appears to go into a trance on some transponders. TNAP 5 & up Has some extra scanning information in debug. I find every time the Supreme hangs on a scan, there is almost always no signal present. This is aggravating to deal with because I am used to enigma2 receivers finishing their scan.

Further investigation shows the Supreme is logging some transponders that are below lock one half second, then briefly above lock the next half second. In other words the problem transponders have a seesaw effect in regards to the signal, which in turns makes the receiver hang. The SF8008 Does Not have this problem, and it seems the solution for the SF8008 is to not log the transponder that are like this. Also, it is easier to see the problem when the Supreme can disoplay signal below lock.

One example today was a 32apsk transponder that I had roughly 10db on, but needed about 12.5-13.0 to lock and be usable. The signal would go up to the locking point, but would immediately fall back down. My antenna system was too poor to lock it, and the SF8008 Supreme was confused about it to the point where it hung on this transponder when trying to scan it.

Then the bright idea occurred to show the signal in db for every transponder that was scanned. This ended up being a hours long event, and also ended up about half way complete: I can log correct signal levels for transponders with channels, but cannot log correct signal levels for transponders without channels. My coding abilities are about as good as a cracker jack box.

Shown below is a scan of 117w c band that has signal in db for the found services. Figuring out exactly why the SF8008 Supreme is hanging was hours long adventure. But anyone ought to be able to duplicate the SF8008 hanging if they do enough scans (feed-hunting). This was the easy part. Finding someone that is interested and capable of fixing it will probably be the hard part.


Scan Report

< File created on Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 21:03:58 >
< Satellite = 117.0W C-band Eutelsat 117 West A/B 117.1 W >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 3625 to 4800 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner A: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S 3720V / 27000 / 3/4', > Tp# 1
< (1)3720V SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (2)3720V SID 0x02 /> 1:0:1:2:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (3)3720V SID 0x03 /> 1:0:1:3:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (4)3720V SID 0x04 /> 1:0:1:4:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (5)3720V SID 0x05 /> 1:0:1:5:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (6)3720V SID 0x06 /> 1:0:1:6:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (7)3720V SID 0x07 /> 1:0:1:7:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (8)3720V SID 0x08 /> 1:0:1:8:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (9)3720V SID 0x09 /> 1:0:1:9:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (10)3720V SID 0x0a /> 1:0:1:A:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (11)3720V SID 0x0b /> 1:0:1:B:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (12)3720V SID 0x0c /> 1:0:1:C:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (13)3720V SID 0x0d /> 1:0:1:D:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (14)3720V SID 0x0e /> 1:0:1:E:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (15)3720V SID 0x0f /> 1:0:1:F:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31
< (16)3720V SID 0x10 /> 1:0:1:10:1:0:97D8E88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.31

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3765H / 5200 / 3/4', > Tp# 2
< (17)Canal15 ILCE /> 1:0:19:2:1:1:97D0EB5:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.78

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3771H / 5200 / 3/4', > Tp# 3
< (18)Canal Iberoamericano /> 1:0:19:3:1:1:97D0EBB:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.03

< 'DVB-S 3777H / 3600 / 3/4', > Tp# 4
< (19)TV-101 /> 1:0:1:101:1:1:97D0EC1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.76

< 'DVB-S 3786V / 4000 / 3/4', > Tp# 5
< (20)TELECENTRO 13 /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:97D8ECA:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.26

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3787H / 4091 / 3/4', > Tp# 6
< (21)Justicia TV /> 1:0:19:2:1:1:97D0ECB:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.54
< (22)3787H SID 0x02 /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:97D0ECB:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.54

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3790V / 3080 / 3/4', > Tp# 7
< (23)TV-MAS /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:97D8ECE:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.30

< 'DVB-S 3795V / 2244 / 3/4', > Tp# 8
< (24)RTU_ECUADOR /> 1:0:1:1:1000:2000:97D8ED3:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.27
< (25)RTU_RADIO (Radio #1) /> 1:0:2:2:1000:2000:97D8ED3:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.27

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3796H / 4091 / 3/4', > Tp# 9
< (26)Canal Once /> 1:0:19:3:1:1:97D0ED4:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 8.95

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3798V / 1660 / 3/5', > Tp# 10
< (27)RCG-01 /> 1:0:1:1:0:0:97D8ED6:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3809V / 15001 / 3/4', > Tp# 11
< (28)XHDF /> 1:0:1:1:2711:0:97D8EE1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.31
< (29)XHIMT /> 1:0:1:2:2711:0:97D8EE1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.31
< (30)XHTVM /> 1:0:1:3:2711:0:97D8EE1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.31
< (31)XHDF /> 1:0:1:4:2711:0:97D8EE1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.31
< (32)XHTVM /> 1:0:1:5:2711:0:97D8EE1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.31
< (33)XHIMT /> 1:0:1:9:2711:0:97D8EE1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.31

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3820H / 30002 / 3/4', > Tp# 12
< (34)CINE MEXICANO SD /> 1:0:1:9:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (35)PLATINO 2 /> 1:0:1:B:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (36)TELEFORMULA HD /> 1:0:1:C:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (37)TVC DELAY MNMXDELAY /> 1:0:1:D:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (38)VIDEOROLA SD /> 1:0:1:E:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (39)EXCELSIORTV /> 1:0:1:F:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (40)AMC /> 1:0:1:10:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (41)MASCHIC /> 1:0:1:11:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (42)GOURMET /> 1:0:1:12:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (43)FILM&ARTS /> 1:0:1:13:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (44)OCHO TV /> 1:0:1:14:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (45)MEGACANAL /> 1:0:1:15:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (46)PLATINO HD 117 /> 1:0:1:16:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (47)TVC MNMX /> 1:0:1:17:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (48)TVC DEPORTES HD /> 1:0:1:19:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (49)PANICO HD 117 /> 1:0:1:1A:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (50)MEGASPORTS SD /> 1:0:1:20:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (51)NBA SD /> 1:0:1:21:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (52)PASIONES SD /> 1:0:1:22:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (53)HOLATV SD /> 1:0:1:23:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (54)BEATBOX SD /> 1:0:1:24:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06
< (55)TVCDEP2 HD /> 1:0:1:25:65:1:97D0EEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.06

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3825V / 4417 / 3/4', > Tp# 13
< (56)SICOM16-2 /> 1:0:1:401:8:80:97D8EF1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (57)SICOM16-1 /> 1:0:1:402:8:80:97D8EF1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (58)Radio Puebla (Radio #2) /> 1:0:2:3EA:8:80:97D8EF1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3843H / 3500 / 3/4', > Tp# 14
< (59)SMRTV /> 1:0:1:1:7531:1:97D0F03:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.79
< (60)RADIO /> 1:0:1:2:7531:1:97D0F03:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.79

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3847H / 2800 / 5/6', > Tp# 15
< (61)3847H SID 0x02 /> 1:0:1:2:1111:0:97D0F07:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.59

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3850H / 2083 / 3/4', > Tp# 16
< (62)PVE5 Encoder /> 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:97D0F0A:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.43

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3853H / 1666 / 2/3', > Tp# 17
< (63)UCSG /> 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:97D0F0D:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.01

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3857H / 4440 / 5/6', > Tp# 18
< (64)3857H SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:97D0F11:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.64

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3864H / 2500 / 5/6', > Tp# 19
< (65)MayaTV /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:97D0F18:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.30
< (66)Go TV /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:97D0F18:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.30
< (67)LTV /> 1:0:1:4:1:1:97D0F18:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.30
< (68)DIGITAL-1 /> 1:0:1:301:1:1:97D0F18:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.30

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3867V / 6166 / 5/6', > Tp# 20
< (69)3867V SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:3A98:0:97D8F1B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.69
< (70)3867V SID 0x02 /> 1:0:1:2:3A98:0:97D8F1B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.69

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3869H / 2500 / 3/4', > Tp# 21
< (71)Digital 1 /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:97D0F1D:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.54

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3872V / 2875 / 5/6', > Tp# 22
< (72)Teleyucatan /> 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:97D8F20:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.31

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3876H / 4167 / 3/4', > Tp# 23
< (73)3876H SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:97D0F24:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.66

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3882H / 3255 / 5/6', > Tp# 24
< (74)HIDALGO /> 1:0:1:2:1:FFFF:97D0F2A:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29

< 'DVB-S 3886H / 2541 / 5/6', > Tp# 25
< (75)3886H SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:0:0:97D0F2E:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.47

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3887V / 3328 / 3/4', > Tp# 26
< (76)WWB /> 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:97D8F2F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.79

< 'DVB-S 3890V / 1667 / 7/8', > Tp# 27
< (77)3890V SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:97D8F32:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.58

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3891H / 5000 / 3/4', > Tp# 28
< (78)AZTECA GUATE /> 1:0:1:1:3:1:97D0F33:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.61
< (79)A+ GUATE /> 1:0:1:2:3:1:97D0F33:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.61
< (80)UNION RADIO /> 1:0:1:3:3:1:97D0F33:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.61

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3893V / 2416 / 3/5', > Tp# 29
< (81)TLAXCALA-TV /> 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:97D8F35:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.79

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3897V / 2083 / 4/5', > Tp# 30
< (82)CBTVDF_service /> 1:0:1:1:1000:2000:97D8F39:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.44

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3899H / 7500 / 5/6', > Tp# 31
< (83)TVCUATRO4.1 /> 1:0:0:200:0:0:97D0F3B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.65
< (84)TVCUATRO4.2 /> 1:0:0:201:0:0:97D0F3B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.65
< (85)TVCUATRO4.3 /> 1:0:0:202:0:0:97D0F3B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.65
< (86)TVCUATRO4.4 /> 1:0:0:300:0:0:97D0F3B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.65

< 'DVB-S 3903V / 2200 / 7/8', > Tp# 32
< (87)LA VOZ DE MARIA /> 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:97D8F3F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.31

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3905H / 1600 / 3/4', > Tp# 33
< (88)TELECEIBA /> 1:0:16:1:1:1:97D0F41:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 5.70

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3907H / 2500 / 4/5', > Tp# 34
< (89)UNAH-UTV /> 1:0:1:1:0:0:97D0F43:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 7.96

< 'DVB-S 3909V / 6379 / 3/4', > Tp# 35
< (90)Telesistema 11 /> 1:0:1:1:0:1:97D8F45:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.58
< (91)Teleantillas /> 1:0:1:2:0:1:97D8F45:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.58
< (92)Coral 39 /> 1:0:1:3:0:1:97D8F45:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.58

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3910H / 1583 / 5/6', > Tp# 36
< (93)FFAA TV /> 1:0:1:1:0:0:97D0F46:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.61
< (94)EDN /> 1:0:1:2:0:0:97D0F46:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.61

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3916V / 4500 / 3/4', > Tp# 37
< (95)44.1 /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:97D8F4C:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.61
< (96)44.2 /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:97D8F4C:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.61

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3916H / 4000 / 3/4', > Tp# 38
< (97)3916H SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:2328:0:97D0F4C:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.20

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3924V / 7257 / 8/9', > Tp# 39
< (98)WMTVI CH 49.2 /> 1:0:1:32:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62
< (99)AME CH47 /> 1:0:1:2F:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62
< (100)NOTICIAS16 CH16 /> 1:0:1:10:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62
< (101)LA VOZ DE MARIA /> 1:0:1:1E:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62
< (102)NARANJA TV /> 1:0:1:5A:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62
< (103)TELEMEDIOS 25.1 /> 1:0:1:19:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62
< (104)SISTESUR CH 49.1 /> 1:0:1:31:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62
< (105)SUPER CANAL 33.1 /> 1:0:1:21:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62
< (106)RNN CH27 /> 1:0:1:1B:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62
< (107)CINEVISION CH 19 /> 1:0:1:13:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62
< (108)SU MUNDO TV /> 1:0:1:65:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62
< (109)GET TV CH86 /> 1:0:1:56:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62
< (110)Canal6 SOLTV /> 1:0:1:6:F9C:1000:97D8F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.62

< 'DVB-S 3924H / 4400 / 3/4', > Tp# 40
< (111)Nacional /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:97D0F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.43
< (112)Dif-1 /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:97D0F54:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.43

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3947V / 8333 / 5/6', > Tp# 41
< (113)Nuevo Mundo /> 1:0:1:13:1:0:97D8F6B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.49
< (114)Canal 11 /> 1:0:1:9:1:0:97D8F6B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.49
< (115)DTV /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:97D8F6B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.49
< (116)RTV /> 1:0:1:10:1:0:97D8F6B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.49
< (117)Radios /> 1:0:1:A:1:0:97D8F6B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.49
< (118)Qhubo TV /> 1:0:1:2:1:0:97D8F6B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.49
< (119)VEA Canal /> 1:0:1:B:1:0:97D8F6B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.49
< (120)HCH /> 1:0:1:6:1:0:97D8F6B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.49
< (121)CCI Channel /> 1:0:1:E:1:0:97D8F6B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.49

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3949H / 15149 / 3/5', > Tp# 42
< (122)AzMundo /> 1:0:1:1:4D2:0:97D0F6D:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.55
< (123)AzCorazon /> 1:0:1:2:4D2:0:97D0F6D:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.55
< (124)AzClic /> 1:0:1:3:4D2:0:97D0F6D:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.55
< (125)Azcinema /> 1:0:1:4:4D2:0:97D0F6D:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.55
< (126)Azteca 1-1 Hr /> 1:0:1:5:4D2:0:97D0F6D:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.55
< (127)Azteca 1-2 Hrs /> 1:0:1:6:4D2:0:97D0F6D:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.55

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3958V / 4800 / 3/4', > Tp# 43
< (128)INTI NETWORK /> 1:0:19:1:5:0:97D8F76:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.68

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3963H / 2400 / 3/4', > Tp# 44
< (129)PANAMERICANA HD /> 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:97D0F7B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.76
< (130)OneSeg /> 1:0:1:2:1:FFFF:97D0F7B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.76

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3966H / 1480 / 3/4', > Tp# 45
< (131)OROMAR TV A /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:97D0F7E:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.93

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3967V / 7500 / 3/4', > Tp# 46
< (132)ECU - NAC /> 1:0:0:2:1:1:97D8F7F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (133)ECU - INTER /> 1:0:0:1:1:1:97D8F7F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3973H / 2916 / 3/4', > Tp# 47
< (134)GUATEVISION /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:97D0F85:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.47
< (135)RCN (Radio #3) /> 1:0:2:29:1:1:97D0F85:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.47

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3976H / 1667 / 3/4', > Tp# 48
< (136)GAMATV /> 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:97D0F88:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 14.48

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3978H / 833 / 5/6', > Tp# 49
< (137)W Radio (Radio #4) /> 1:0:2:3E8:1:1:97D0F8A:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 16.23
< (138)W Deportes (Radio #5) /> 1:0:2:7D0:1:1:97D0F8A:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 16.23
< (139)Los 40 (Radio #6) /> 1:0:2:BB8:1:1:97D0F8A:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 16.23
< (140)La Ke Buena (Radio #7) /> 1:0:2:FA0:1:1:97D0F8A:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 16.23
< (141)XEW AM (Radio #8) /> 1:0:2:1388:1:1:97D0F8A:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 16.23
< (142)La Q (Radio #9) /> 1:0:2:1770:1:1:97D0F8A:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 16.23

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3996V / 4053 / 5/6', > Tp# 50
< (143)3996V SID 0x02 /> 1:0:1:2:0:0:97D8F9C:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.05

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4000V / 1167 / 3/4', > Tp# 51

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4003V / 2250 / 3/4', > Tp# 52
< (144)CINECLICK /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:97D8FA3:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.56
< (145)X-TIME /> 1:0:1:2:1:0:97D8FA3:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.56

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4012V / 9425 / 3/4', > Tp# 53
< (146)TVEA HD /> 1:0:1:A:5:0:97D8FAC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.79
< (147)TVEA SD /> 1:0:1:B:5:0:97D8FAC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.79
< (148)24 H /> 1:0:1:C:5:0:97D8FAC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.79
< (149)Star TVE HD /> 1:0:1:D:5:0:97D8FAC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.79
< (150)Clan HD /> 1:0:1:E:5:0:97D8FAC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.79
< (151)RNE 1 (Radio #10) /> 1:0:2:C9:5:0:97D8FAC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.79
< (152)REE (Radio #11) /> 1:0:2:CC:5:0:97D8FAC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.79

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4017H / 23199 / 5/6', > Tp# 54
< (153)CLARO SPORTS /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:97D0FB1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.29
< (154)CONCERT CHANNEL /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:97D0FB1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.29
< (155)CANAL CLARO /> 1:0:1:3:1:1:97D0FB1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.29
< (156)CLARO CINEMA /> 1:0:1:4:1:1:97D0FB1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.29
< (157)NUESTRA VISION /> 1:0:1:5:1:1:97D0FB1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.29
< (158)CLARO SPORTS SERV 6 /> 1:0:1:6:1:1:97D0FB1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.29
< (159)CLARO SPORTS SERV 7 /> 1:0:1:7:1:1:97D0FB1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.29
< (160)CLARO SPORTS 2 /> 1:0:1:8:1:1:97D0FB1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.29

< 'DVB-S 4032V / 15200 / 5/6', > Tp# 55
< (161)Telemicro Internacional HD /> 1:0:1:3:0:0:97D8FC0:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.76
< (162)Telemicro /> 1:0:1:1:0:0:97D8FC0:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.76
< (163)Digital 15 /> 1:0:1:2:0:0:97D8FC0:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.76

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4050V / 13917 / 3/4', > Tp# 56
< (164)9 Cutlery Corner Network /> 1:0:1:9:0:0:97D8FD2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (165)24 WPXS /> 1:0:1:18:0:0:97D8FD2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (166)103 ATV P.R. /> 1:0:0:67:0:0:97D8FD2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (167)105 ATV TAMPA /> 1:0:0:69:0:0:97D8FD2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (168)107 Americans Auction Network /> 1:0:1:6B:0:0:97D8FD2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (169)109 NRB /> 1:0:1:6D:0:0:97D8FD2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (170)104 GEB /> 1:0:1:68:0:0:97D8FD2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (171)106 REVIVAL /> 1:0:1:6A:0:0:97D8FD2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (172)PH /> 1:0:1:1F4:0:0:97D8FD2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (173)4050V SID 0x67 /> 1:0:1:67:0:0:97D8FD2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.09
< (174)4050V SID 0x69 /> 1:0:1:69:0:0:97D8FD2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.09

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4060H / 29997 / 5/6', > Tp# 57
< (175)4060H SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:97D0FDC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.72
< (176)4060H SID 0x02 /> 1:0:1:2:1:0:97D0FDC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.72
< (177)4060H SID 0x03 /> 1:0:1:3:1:0:97D0FDC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.72
< (178)4060H SID 0x04 /> 1:0:1:4:1:0:97D0FDC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.72
< (179)4060H SID 0x05 /> 1:0:1:5:1:0:97D0FDC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.72
< (180)4060H SID 0x06 /> 1:0:1:6:1:0:97D0FDC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.72
< (181)4060H SID 0x07 /> 1:0:1:7:1:0:97D0FDC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.72
< (182)4060H SID 0x08 /> 1:0:1:8:1:0:97D0FDC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.72
< (183)4060H SID 0x09 /> 1:0:1:9:1:0:97D0FDC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.72
< (184)4060H SID 0x0a /> 1:0:1:A:1:0:97D0FDC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.72

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4066V / 3100 / 2/3', > Tp# 58
< (185)MEXICANAL /> 1:0:19:1:1:1:97D8FE2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.87

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4073V / 3730 / 5/6', > Tp# 59
< (186)Teleformula /> 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:97D8FE9:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.41

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4076V / 2500 / 3/4', > Tp# 60
< (187)TELEUNIVERSO HD /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:97D8FEC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4085V / 11167 / 5/6', > Tp# 61
< (188)4085V SID 0x04 /> 1:0:1:4:382:0:97D8FF5:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.73
< (189)4085V SID 0x06 /> 1:0:1:6:382:0:97D8FF5:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.73
< (190)4085V SID 0x07 /> 1:0:1:7:382:0:97D8FF5:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.73
< (191)4085V SID 0x08 /> 1:0:1:8:382:0:97D8FF5:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.73
< (192)4085V SID 0x09 /> 1:0:1:9:382:0:97D8FF5:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.73
< (193)4085V SID 0x0b /> 1:0:1:B:382:0:97D8FF5:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.73
< (194)4085V SID 0x0c /> 1:0:1:C:382:0:97D8FF5:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.73
< (195)4085V SID 0x0d /> 1:0:1:D:382:0:97D8FF5:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.73
< (196)4085V SID 0x10 /> 1:0:1:10:382:0:97D8FF5:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.73

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4095V / 6333 / 3/4', > Tp# 62
< (197)Hola TV HD /> 1:0:1:34:5:0:97D8FFF:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.15
< (198)A3 Cine /> 1:0:1:19A:5:0:97D8FFF:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.15
< (199)A3 Series NTSC /> 1:0:1:19B:5:0:97D8FFF:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.15

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4100H / 30001 / 5/6', > Tp# 63
< (200)4100H SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:2FF:0:97D1004:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.46
< (201)4100H SID 0x02 /> 1:0:1:2:2FF:0:97D1004:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.46
< (202)4100H SID 0x03 /> 1:0:1:3:2FF:0:97D1004:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.46
< (203)4100H SID 0x04 /> 1:0:1:4:2FF:0:97D1004:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.46
< (204)4100H SID 0x05 /> 1:0:1:5:2FF:0:97D1004:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.46
< (205)4100H SID 0x06 /> 1:0:1:6:2FF:0:97D1004:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.46
< (206)4100H SID 0x07 /> 1:0:1:7:2FF:0:97D1004:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.46
< (207)4100H SID 0x08 /> 1:0:1:8:2FF:0:97D1004:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.46
< (208)4100H SID 0x09 /> 1:0:1:9:2FF:0:97D1004:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.46
< (209)4100H SID 0x0a /> 1:0:1:A:2FF:0:97D1004:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.46

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4113V / 19667 / 5/6', > Tp# 64
< (210)Canal Once /> 1:0:1:C9:65:310:97D9011:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.60
< (211)AYM Sports /> 1:0:1:CB:65:310:97D9011:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.60
< (212)INTI /> 1:0:1:CA:65:310:97D9011:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.60
< (213)LAS USA /> 1:0:1:CC:65:310:97D9011:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.60
< (214)Kanal Drama USA /> 1:0:1:CD:65:310:97D9011:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.60
< (215)Telemicro /> 1:0:1:CE:65:310:97D9011:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.60
< (216)Canal+ Studio /> 1:0:1:D5:65:310:97D9011:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.60
< (217)Telemicro HD /> 1:0:1:C8:65:310:97D9011:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.60
< (218)Ecuavisa /> 1:0:1:CF:65:310:97D9011:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.60
< (219)CBTV /> 1:0:1:D0:65:310:97D9011:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.60
< (220)Kanal D /> 1:0:1:D1:65:310:97D9011:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.60
< (221)Canal 22 HD /> 1:0:1:D2:65:310:97D9011:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.60

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4139H / 30002 / 5/6', > Tp# 65
< (222)4139H SID 0x14 /> 1:0:1:14:139:0:97D102B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.51
< (223)4139H SID 0x15 /> 1:0:1:15:139:0:97D102B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.51
< (224)4139H SID 0x16 /> 1:0:1:16:139:0:97D102B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.51
< (225)4139H SID 0x17 /> 1:0:1:17:139:0:97D102B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.51
< (226)4139H SID 0x18 /> 1:0:1:18:139:0:97D102B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.51
< (227)4139H SID 0x19 /> 1:0:1:19:139:0:97D102B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.51
< (228)4139H SID 0x1a /> 1:0:1:1A:139:0:97D102B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.51
< (229)4139H SID 0x1b /> 1:0:1:1B:139:0:97D102B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.51
< (230)4139H SID 0x1c /> 1:0:1:1C:139:0:97D102B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.51
< (231)4139H SID 0x1d /> 1:0:1:1D:139:0:97D102B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.51

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4160V / 30001 / 5/6', > Tp# 66
< (232)Fox Sports VIRTUAL 3 /> 1:0:1:3:1:1:97D9040:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.01
< (233)Fox Sports PREMIUM /> 1:0:1:4:1:1:97D9040:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.01
< (234)EL FINANCIERO TV /> 1:0:1:5:1:1:97D9040:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.01
< (235)Fox Sports HD /> 1:0:1:6:1:1:97D9040:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.01
< (236)Fox Sports 2 HD /> 1:0:1:7:1:1:97D9040:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.01
< (237)Fox Sports 3 HD /> 1:0:1:8:1:1:97D9040:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.01

< 'DVB-S 4165H / 4400 / 3/4', > Tp# 67
< (238)Nacional /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:97D1045:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 8.67
< (239)Dif-1 /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:97D1045:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 8.67

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4183H / 25801 / 2/3', > Tp# 68
< (240)Milenio XHAW /> 1:0:16:1:69:5:97D1057:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.71
< (241)Milenio MX /> 1:0:1:2:69:5:97D1057:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.71
< (242)Teleritmo /> 1:0:19:3:69:5:97D1057:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.71
< (243)Multimedios USA /> 1:0:19:4:69:5:97D1057:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.71
< (244)Milenio USA /> 1:0:19:5:69:5:97D1057:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.71
< (245)Feeds /> 1:0:16:6:69:5:97D1057:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.71
< (246)Teleritmo XHAW /> 1:0:16:7:69:5:97D1057:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.71
< (247)Seis Tres XHAW /> 1:0:16:8:69:5:97D1057:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.71
< (248)Multimedios CDMX /> 1:0:19:9:69:5:97D1057:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.71
< (249)Multimedios Costa Rica /> 1:0:19:A:69:5:97D1057:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.71
< (250)Multimedios Plus /> 1:0:19:B:69:5:97D1057:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.71
< (251)Multimedios MTY /> 1:0:19:C:69:5:97D1057:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.71

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4196V / 2800 / 3/4', > Tp# 69
< (252)Radio Nueva Vida (Radio #12) /> 1:0:2:1:1:1:97D9064:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 3.98
< (253)K-LOVE - Rocklin (Radio #13) /> 1:0:2:2:1:1:97D9064:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 3.98
< (254)Air1 - Rocklin (Radio #14) /> 1:0:2:3:1:1:97D9064:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 3.98
< (255)Virtual Channel 3 (News 3) (Radio #15) /> 1:0:2:5:1:1:97D9064:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 3.98
< (256)Virtual Channel 4 (News 4) (Radio #16) /> 1:0:2:6:1:1:97D9064:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 3.98
< (257)Virtual Channel 1 (Aux Room 1) (Radio #17) /> 1:0:2:7:1:1:97D9064:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 3.98
< (258)Virtual Channel 2 (Aux Room 2) (Radio #18) /> 1:0:2:8:1:1:97D9064:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 3.98
< (259)K-LOVE Christmas (Radio #19) /> 1:0:2:A:1:1:97D9064:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 3.98
< (260)K-LOVE 90s (Radio #20) /> 1:0:2:D:1:1:97D9064:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 3.98
< (261)BOOST Radio (Radio #21) /> 1:0:2:E:1:1:97D9064:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 3.98
< (262)K-LOVE 2000s (Radio #22) /> 1:0:2:15:1:1:97D9064:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 3.98
< (263)4196V SID 0x0a --- UnKnown Service Type 64 /> 1:0:64:A:1:1:97D9064:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 4.36<

Blind Scan Time = 6 Min. 33 Sec.
263 Channels ( TV = 241 Radio = 22) 69 of 69 Transponders Scanned.

[el bandido]

The SF8008 Also has bluetooth (5.1?) capability. To date, this feature is useless for me. I tried OpenVix, OpenATV...etc. Useless Bluetooth for me.

[eastof111]

They should have left out bluetooth and for a couple of more dollars added a third tuner.

Just curious, but have you checked if the second tuner blind scans?

[ArloG]

My guess is yes if you get the SF8008 Supreme Twin and leave the useless (for the USA) SF8008 Supreme Combo with DVB-C / DVB-T2 tuner out of the mix.
As far as BT goes. Anyone try using at least a keyboard?
With all of the OTA terrestrial stuff going on, any built in tuner for that should tell you to look away.

[el bandido]

They should have left out bluetooth and for a couple of more dollars added a third tuner.

Just curious, but have you checked if the second tuner blind scans?

The second DVB-S2 tuner is doing ku band duties, and works I guess identical to tuner One. The original SF8008 had scan problems with the second tuner, but those issues were resolved and do not seem to exist in the Supreme version.

[el bandido]

Shown below is a blindscan of 89w ku that was done yesterday. It logs a 32 apsk transponder that needs about 12.5db of signal to be usable.
18070


My dish system is averaging around 10db, but the signal bounces regularly to about 12.5 db.
18071


So the Supreme has blind scanned a signal that is below lock. The Supreme will hang for an indefinite period when you try to scan this transponder for channels because it is below lock and cannot be resolved.

Having the ability to see the signal is below lock is a big help in understanding the problem. No image group, OpenATV, OpenPLi, OpenVix has adopted the ability to let the Supreme show signals below lock. So most users would see this transponder in a SF8008 Supreme as being scanned without a signal and wonder what the hell is going on. This needs to be fixed. You want to find transponders, but you do not want to find transponders that are unusable to the point the receiver hangs.

[el bandido]

My c band lnbs are Norsat 8000RI Extended band. These lnbs work well over a wide range of frequencies and have a 5750 l.o. But they are a compromise. A larger band almost always leads to less sensitivity. If I had a decent set of 5150 l.o. lnbs yesterday instead of extended band, i may have locked the 32apsk transponder. I would guess you lose a db or 2 on extended band.

Probably, at least 80% of the time, the Supreme has no issues scanning. Shown below is extended c band on 65 west. This satellite is not very strong for me and has some transponders hanging around the threshold of lock/unlock. I can't recall the Supreme hanging on this satellite.


Scan Report

< File created on Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 21:37:50 >
< Satellite = 65.0W C-band Star One C2 & Eutelsat 65 West A 65.1 W >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 3625 to 4800 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner A: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4510V / 2083 / 2/3', > Tp# 1
< (1)TV Assembleia /> 1:0:1:E760:B1:E760:B85919E:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.80

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4511H / 3750 / 3/4', > Tp# 2
< (2)TV Cabralia 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:2598:12C:12C:B85119F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.00
< (3)TV Cabralia HD /> 1:0:1:2580:12C:12C:B85119F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.00
< (4)4511H SID 0x2598 /> 1:0:1:2598:12C:12C:B85119F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.00

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4515H / 3750 / 3/4', > Tp# 3
< (5)Record Interior 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:E838:741:741:B8511A3:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.79
< (6)Record Interior HD /> 1:0:1:E820:741:741:B8511A3:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.79

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4520H / 3730 / 3/4', > Tp# 4
< (7)Record SJRP 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:E8B8:745:745:B8511A8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.42
< (8)Record SJRP HD /> 1:0:1:E8A0:745:745:B8511A8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.42

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4525H / 4800 / 2/3', > Tp# 5
< (9)Record News 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:E858:742:742:B8511AD:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.46
< (10)Record News HD /> 1:0:1:E840:742:742:B8511AD:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.46

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4530H / 3750 / 3/4', > Tp# 6
< (11)Record Paulista 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:EB58:75A:75A:B8511B2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.14
< (12)Record Paulista HD /> 1:0:1:EB40:75A:75A:B8511B2:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.14

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4535H / 3847 / 3/4', > Tp# 7
< (13)VTV SBT HD /> 1:0:1:EC40:762:762:B8511B7:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.56
< (14)VTV SBT 1SEG /> 1:0:C0:EC58:762:762:B8511B7:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.56

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4540H / 1837 / 3/4', > Tp# 8
< (15)PLAY TV /> 1:0:1:1:0:0:B8511BC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.04

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4544H / 3730 / 3/4', > Tp# 9
< (16)RECORD 1Seg TVMAR /> 1:0:C0:ECD8:766:766:B8511C0:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.90
< (17)RECORD LITORALVALE /> 1:0:1:ECC0:766:766:B8511C0:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.90

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4548H / 3750 / 3/4', > Tp# 10
< (18)RECORD INT/RJ 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:BD98:5EC:5EC:B8511C4:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.61
< (19)RECORD INT/RJ HD /> 1:0:1:BD80:5EC:5EC:B8511C4:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.61
< (20)4548H SID 0xbd98 /> 1:0:1:BD98:5EC:5EC:B8511C4:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.61

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4554H / 4780 / 3/4', > Tp# 11
< (21)RECORDTV 1SEG /> 1:0:C0:BD38:5E9:5E9:B8511CA:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.78
< (22)RECORDTV HD /> 1:0:1:BD20:5E9:5E9:B8511CA:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.78

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4556V / 2083 / 5/6', > Tp# 12
< (23)NCN-RADIO 1 (Radio #1) /> 1:0:2:3:8:80:B8591CC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (24)NCN-RADIO3 (Radio #2) /> 1:0:2:2:8:80:B8591CC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (25)NCN-RADIO2 (Radio #3) /> 1:0:2:1:8:80:B8591CC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (26)HEVC Encoder1 /> 1:0:1:3E9:8:80:B8591CC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22
< (27)HEVC Encoder0 /> 1:0:1:3E8:8:80:B8591CC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.22

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4566H / 5083 / 3/4', > Tp# 13
< (28)NOVO TEMPO 1-SEG /> 1:0:C0:CB18:658:658:B8511D6:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.21
< (29)NOVO TEMPO HD /> 1:0:1:CB00:658:658:B8511D6:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.21

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4572H / 4780 / 3/4', > Tp# 14
< (30)Record HD /> 1:0:1:5C00:2E0:2E0:B8511DC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.92
< (31)Record 1seg /> 1:0:C0:5C18:2E0:2E0:B8511DC:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.92

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4577H / 3750 / 4/5', > Tp# 15
< (32)RFTV 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:EA18:750:750:B8511E1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.79
< (33)RFTV HD /> 1:0:1:EA00:750:750:B8511E1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.79
< (34)4577H SID 0xea18 /> 1:0:1:EA18:750:750:B8511E1:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.79

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4583H / 4800 / 2/3', > Tp# 16
< (35)Record News 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:E858:742:742:B8511E7:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.43
< (36)Record News HD /> 1:0:1:E840:742:742:B8511E7:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.43

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4589H / 4780 / 3/4', > Tp# 17
< (37)Record HD /> 1:0:1:4780:23C:23C:B8511ED:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.72
< (38)Record 1seg /> 1:0:C0:4798:23C:23C:B8511ED:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.72

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4595H / 4780 / 3/4', > Tp# 18
< (39)Record TV RS /> 1:0:1:CAC0:656:656:B8511F3:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 8.82
< (40)Record TV RS 1seg /> 1:0:C0:CAD8:656:656:B8511F3:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 8.82

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4601H / 4780 / 3/4', > Tp# 19
< (41)Record HD /> 1:0:1:24E0:127:127:B8511F9:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.00
< (42)Record 1seg /> 1:0:C0:24F8:127:127:B8511F9:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.00

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4607V / 3750 / 2/3', > Tp# 20
< (43)ATALAIA_SAT /> 1:0:1:1:1000:2000:B8591FF:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.97
< (44)XODO_FM (Radio #4) /> 1:0:2:2:1000:2000:B8591FF:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.97

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4607H / 4780 / 3/4', > Tp# 21
< (45)Record HD /> 1:0:1:9680:4B4:4B4:B8511FF:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.15
< (46)Record 1seg /> 1:0:C0:9698:4B4:4B4:B8511FF:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.15

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4612H / 3750 / 2/3', > Tp# 22
< (47)TVAL /> 1:0:0:1:0:0:B851204:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 7.20
< (48)4612H SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:0:0:B851204:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 7.20

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4613V / 6669 / 3/4', > Tp# 23
< (49)SD2 /> 1:0:16:4:0:539:B859205:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.27
< (50)SD1 /> 1:0:16:3:0:539:B859205:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.27
< (51)SPR /> 1:0:19:2:0:539:B859205:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.27
< (52)TVUNAM /> 1:0:19:1:0:539:B859205:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.27

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4649H / 29999 / 5/6', > Tp# 24

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4687V / 7074 / 3/4', > Tp# 25
< (53)TV TEM HD /> 1:0:1:E800:740:740:B85924F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.14
< (54)TV TEM 1SEG /> 1:0:C0:E819:740:740:B85924F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.14

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4687H / 3750 / 2/3', > Tp# 26
< (55)AUXILIAR /> 1:0:1:A3C0:51E:51E:B85124F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.78
< (56)TV ALEPE /> 1:0:0:1:51E:51E:B85124F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.78

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4692H / 3720 / 3/4', > Tp# 27
< (57)BAND TRIANGULO 1 SEG /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:B851254:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.54
< (58)BAND TRIANGULO HD /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:B851254:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.54

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4696V / 7073 / 3/4', > Tp# 28
< (59)TV TEM HD /> 1:0:1:E940:74A:74A:B859258:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.66
< (60)TV TEM 1SEG /> 1:0:C0:E959:74A:74A:B859258:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.66

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4698H / 6668 / 3/4', > Tp# 29
< (61)TV INTEGRACAO /> 1:0:1:5AA0:0:2D5:B85125A:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 7.98

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4703H / 2500 / 2/3', > Tp# 30
< (62)TV ALBA HD /> 1:0:0:1:1:0:B85125F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.54
< (63)TV ALBA 1Seg /> 1:0:0:3E8:1:0:B85125F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.54

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4705V / 7073 / 3/4', > Tp# 31
< (64)TV TEM HD /> 1:0:1:ED20:769:769:B859261:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.80
< (65)TV TEM 1SEG /> 1:0:C0:ED39:769:769:B859261:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.80
< (66)4705V SID 0xed39 /> 1:0:1:ED39:769:769:B859261:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.80

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4708H / 5000 / 3/4', > Tp# 32
< (67)TRAS HD /> 1:0:19:4EE8:73E:73E:B851264:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 8.94

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4720H / 9999 / 3/4', > Tp# 33
< (68)Cultura FM (Radio #5) /> 1:0:2:5F:2D4:2D4:B851270:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29
< (69)Radio Mix (Radio #6) /> 1:0:2:6A:2D4:2D4:B851270:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29
< (70)TV INTEGRACAO UDI /> 1:0:1:5A80:2D4:2D4:B851270:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29
< (71)TV INTEGRACAO AXA /> 1:0:1:5C40:2D4:2D4:B851270:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4731H / 9166 / 3/4', > Tp# 34
< (72)TVE 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:E4F8:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29
< (73)TVE HD /> 1:0:1:E4E0:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29
< (74)EDUCA BA /> 1:0:1:E4E1:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29
< (75)EDUCA FM /> 1:0:1:E4E2:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29
< (76)EM 1 /> 1:0:1:E4E3:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29
< (77)EM 2 /> 1:0:1:E4E4:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29
< (78)EM 3 /> 1:0:1:E4E5:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29
< (79)TV BRASIL 2 /> 1:0:1:E4E6:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29
< (80)4731H SID 0xe4f8 /> 1:0:1:E4F8:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.29

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4744H / 3750 / 3/4', > Tp# 35
< (81)RECORD INT/RJ 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:BD98:5EC:5EC:B851288:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.03
< (82)RECORD INT/RJ HD /> 1:0:1:BD80:5EC:5EC:B851288:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.03

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4749H / 3730 / 3/4', > Tp# 36
< (83)RECORD 1Seg TVMAR /> 1:0:C0:ECD8:766:766:B85128D:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 8.99
< (84)RECORD LITORALVALE /> 1:0:1:ECC0:766:766:B85128D:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 8.99

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4764H / 3750 / 3/4', > Tp# 37<

Blind Scan Time = 3 Min. 56 Sec.
84 Channels ( TV = 78 Radio = 6) 37 of 37 Transponders Scanned.



61w c band Is hit or miss. This is a weak satellite for me with transponders below lock. It is pretty common to get a receiver hang when scanning/blind scanning 61w.


Scan Report

< File created on Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 22:59:01 >
< Satellite = 61.0W C-band Amazonas 2/3/5 61.1 W >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 3625 to 4800 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner A: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3666H / 24631 / AUTO', > Tp# 1

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3730V / 2435 / AUTO', > Tp# 2

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3738H / 2885 / AUTO', > Tp# 3

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3782H / 2434 / AUTO', > Tp# 4

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3836V / 2527 / AUTO', > Tp# 5

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3876H / 13332 / 5/6', > Tp# 6
< (1)Service 1 (Encrypted) /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:BAD0F24:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.60
< (2)Service 2 (Encrypted ) /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:BAD0F24:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.60
< (3)Service 3 (Encrypted) /> 1:0:1:3:1:1:BAD0F24:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.60
< (4)Service 4 (Encrypted) /> 1:0:1:4:1:1:BAD0F24:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.60

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3940V / 5000 / 3/4', > Tp# 7
< (5)SBTRS_HD /> 1:0:1:CA40:652:652:BAD8F64:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.41
< (6)SBTRS_1SEG /> 1:0:C0:CA58:652:652:BAD8F64:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 12.41

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3967H / 9876 / 2/3', > Tp# 8
< (7)TELEFUTURO HD /> 1:0:1:1:1:2AF:BAD0F7F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.22
< (8)LA TELE HD /> 1:0:1:2:1:2AF:BAD0F7F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.22
< (9)NOTICIAS PARAGUAY /> 1:0:1:3:1:2AF:BAD0F7F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.22
< (10)MONUMENTAL TV /> 1:0:1:4:1:2AF:BAD0F7F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.22
< (11)PRO TV /> 1:0:1:5:1:2AF:BAD0F7F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.22
< (12)E40 TV SD /> 1:0:1:6:1:2AF:BAD0F7F:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.22

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 3972V / 6741 / 3/4', > Tp# 9

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3990V / 5000 / 3/4', > Tp# 10
< (13)TBC /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:BAD8F96:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.97
< (14)VIVAX /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:BAD8F96:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.97

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3991H / 1667 / 4/5', > Tp# 11
< (15)Telerama_Ecuador /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:BAD0F97:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 9.78

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4018H / 27535 / 3/4', > Tp# 12

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4022V / 5000 / 3/4', > Tp# 13
< (16)TV Pajucara Movel /> 1:0:C0:1BD8:DE:DE:BAD8FB6:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.39
< (17)TV Pajucara HD /> 1:0:1:1BC0:DE:DE:BAD8FB6:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.39

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4040V / 23333 / 4/5', > Tp# 14
< (18)TCM HD /> 1:0:1:A:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (19)TOON E HD /> 1:0:1:B:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (20)CBS /> 1:0:1:C:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (21)HGTV /> 1:0:1:D:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (22)Food /> 1:0:1:E:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (23)Travel /> 1:0:1:F:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (24)Discovery /> 1:0:1:10:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (25)Nick /> 1:0:1:11:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (26)ESPN U HD /> 1:0:1:15:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (27)ESPN HD /> 1:0:1:16:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (28)ESPN 2 HD /> 1:0:1:17:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (29)ESPN SEC HD /> 1:0:1C:18:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (30)CNN HD /> 1:0:1:19:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (31)CruiseSat Live /> 1:0:1:1B:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (32)ESPN SYN 780 /> 1:0:1:C8:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (33)Rai Italia 1 HD (NTSC) /> 1:0:1:12C:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (34)CE_RTL /> 1:0:1:12D:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61
< (35)TVEA HD /> 1:0:1:15E:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 11.61

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4092H / 11441 / 5/6', > Tp# 15

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4134H / 1500 / 5/6', > Tp# 16

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4139H / 4543 / 3/4', > Tp# 17
< (36)4139H SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:1:0:BAD102B:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 8.45

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4158H / 4000 / 2/3', > Tp# 18
< (37)RPC HD /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:BAD103E:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.36
< (38)UNICANAL HD /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:BAD103E:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 15.36

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4170V / 3409 / 3/5', > Tp# 19

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4173V / 1667 / 5/6', > Tp# 20
< (39)ABC TV PY BK /> 1:0:19:2:1:1:BAD904D:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 13.01

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4178H / 3750 / 3/4', > Tp# 21
< (40)TV CAPIXABA 1SEG /> 1:0:C0:42F8:217:217:BAD1052:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.97
< (41)TV CAPIXABA HD /> 1:0:1:42E0:217:217:BAD1052:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.97
< (42)4178H SID 0x42f8 /> 1:0:1:42F8:217:217:BAD1052:0:0:0: SNR(db) = 10.97

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4183V / 3900 / 4/5', > Tp# 22

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4591V / 5075 / AUTO', > Tp# 23

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4608V / 2668 / 4/5', > Tp# 24

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4612V / 2667 / AUTO', > Tp# 25

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4632V / 9806 / AUTO', > Tp# 26

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4645V / 5524 / AUTO', > Tp# 27

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4659V / 5231 / AUTO', > Tp# 28

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4663V / 1310 / AUTO', > Tp# 29

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4673V / 2455 / AUTO', > Tp# 30

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4676V / 2762 / AUTO', > Tp# 31

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4708V / 13261 / AUTO', > Tp# 32

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4717V / 4166 / AUTO', > Tp# 33<

Blind Scan Time = 13 Min. 44 Sec.
42 Channels ( TV = 42 Radio = 0) 33 of 33 Transponders Scanned.

[eastof111]

My Supreme arrived today and since I haven't used ATV for a few years, I was surprised on how much bloatware was added to the plugin extensions.

Tried deleting some of the bloatware using the uninstall extensions button, but they were not listed there. I installed an ipk uninstaller via Filezilla, but that program couldn't list or find the commercial bloatware either.

I made a full backup to my ssd drive and it took 15 minutes. Not too thrilled with the speed, so I installed backupsuite hoping it would speed up backups in the future. Had to changed the backupsuite sh files to 777 and add enigma2-plugin-extensions-backupsuite.control file to var_lib_opkg_info in order for ATV to recognize it. It did recognize it, but I got as far as display of bad magic number error per the attached pix:

18072 Could be I am using the wrong version of Backupsuite.

Installed PLI 8.3, last version before they started working on 9.0. Tried 9.0 but I was unable to get wifi or lan working in the two last builds. Also, installed TNAP see pix:

18073

So far working ok. Now to test some more.

[el bandido]

Finally! Excellent to have another set of eyes on this receiver!

TNAP will need updating under Software update in receiver menus. There should be a TNAP 5.1 available under Flash image. That is the one I would load. Backupsuite is default in TNAP and you should find it working properly.

The Wifi is different from the SF8008. Cannot remember if I got the wifi working in TNAP 5 or not. Wifi works in TNAP 5.1.

[eastof111]

Flash to 5.1 worked fine.

Actually I was referring to backupsuite not working on ATV. While using ATV, I switched to MCelliotG's skin to checkout the cpu temp (thanks MCelliotG). Switched to the Oman HD channel on 97 ku (because it is 1080 HD) and let it sit there for 30 minutes. The cpu temp average was 68-69C. Then removed the receiver cover and let it sit on the same channel for 30 minutes and the temp dropped to 64C.

Digged up an old intel cpu aluminum heat sink and sat it right on top of the cpu heat sink. The temp dropped down to 49-50C.

If anyone ever tries this, be sure to power off before touching metal on metal on the cpu heatsink. Not shutting the power off will cause the display to go nuts..... A putty reboot will not work. Only a cold boot will bring things back to normal.

[el bandido]

Pictures of the modded heatsink would be nice!

Attached is a python script that shows BER, Lock, and signal using terminal. To use this script, unzip it and install it somewhere in the common receiver files (/media/usb, /tmp....etc). Open terminal,Change Directory in terminal to the proper location of the script, then start the script by calling it using python. Example = python dvbcsv.py. No need to do any other changes.

The script is set for tuner one(A). It can be changed to tuner two(B) by changing the line numbered 88 from - to:
dev = "/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0"
dev = "/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend1"

This script may be allowed to run or it may be started at any time signal information is needed. It does not require a stop-start of enigma2. The script may be stopped by keboard using Ctrl + C. This script is useful for watching lock and signal i terminal and may be used in scans.

[eastof111]

It's a small heat sink, just dropped and sitting on top of the original. I've got more intel sinks sitting in the garage which I will find later and see how far down I can get the temp to drop without using a fan.

18075

I just downloaded the latest VIX and tried one of their old skins and now I am stuck. It won't let me make a selection in multiboot. If I try to change the skin, it keeps rebooting with an error. Also, tried doing a factory reset and it comes back to the same PIA skin. Tried using filezilla to get into the settings menu to change skins, but filezilla won't connect without a password.

Is there a button on the remote that allows you to select a slot while in the boot process?

[eastof111]

Never mind.... found the MAGIC button... lol

[el bandido]

More SF8008 Supreme Blindscan-ServiceScan tests for me tonight. I was able to add some more information to the scan reports that show Transponder Lock or UnLock, and also log a reference signal in db for both transponders and the services in the transponders. It is windy and rainy here tonight, and I had several blindscan hangs with the Supreme this evening.

Put nicely, the Sf8008 Supreme is logging a bunch of trash in blindscan. I will report what I have found and see if there is a desire to fix the blindscan. Right now, the Supreme blindscan is logging so-called transponders that are nothing but junk. The SF8008 does not log much junk, but the SF8008 has had years to be refined.

I find the Remi Services on 16apsk transponders play fine, providing there is enough signal. I also find that services on 32 APSK transponders play well, even the 4:2:2 that have to be streamed, providing of course, there is enough signal to support the reception. Surely there will be something that comes along that doesn't open or play, but that has happened with every fta receiver I have owned. The SF8008 Supreme gets high marks from me for being able to handle the services on APSK transponders.

Shown below is a scan log of 89w c band. Everything shown that is open plays good!


Scan Report

< File created on Friday, March 01, 2024 at 20:34:51 >
< Satellite = 89.0W C-band Galaxy 28 89.1 W >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 3625 to 4800 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner A: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4010H / 14998 / 2/3' > Tp# 1
< [1] NPF ENC 7 / SCREENS RTN 1:0:1:1B5F:1:FFFF:A950FAA:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.33
< [2] NPF ENC 8 / MRN RTN 1:0:1:1B60:1:FFFF:A950FAA:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.33
< Transponder SNR ='10.33'(Locked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4033H / 7499 / 3/4' > Tp# 2
< [3] ENC 8 NASCAR WORLD 1:0:1F:1390:83:83:A950FC1:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.2
< Transponder SNR ='10.2'(Locked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 4040V / 36498 / 3/4' > Tp# 3
< [4] DR MUX-SRT3 TX1 PGM 1:0:1F:1F:1:FF00:A958FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.35
< [5] DR MUX-SRT3 TX2 CLEAN 1:0:1F:20:1:FF00:A958FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.35
< [6] DR MUX-SRT3 TX3 MRN 1:0:1F:21:1:FF00:A958FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.35
< [7] DR MUX-SRT3 TX4 MEDIA CTR 1:0:1F:22:1:FF00:A958FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.35
< [8] DR MUX-SRT3 TX-7 IC1+TEAM COMS 1:0:1F:25:1:FF00:A958FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.35
< [9] DR MUX-SRT3 TX-8 IC2+TEAM COMS 1:0:1F:26:1:FF00:A958FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.35
< [10] DR MUX-SRT3 TX-9 IC3+TEAM COMS 1:0:1F:29:1:FF00:A958FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.35
< [11] DR MUX-SRT3 TX10 IC4+TEAM COMS 1:0:1F:2A:1:FF00:A958FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.35
< Transponder SNR ='13.35'(Locked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4100V / 31249 / 5/6' > Tp# 4
< Transponder SNR ='0.0'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4140H / 34288 / 4/5' > Tp# 5
< [12] CAM 1 Game 1:0:1:1:1:1:A95102C:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.66
< [13] Cam 2 - Tight 1:0:1:2:1:1:A95102C:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.66
< [14] Cam 3 - Left HH 1:0:1:3:1:1:A95102C:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.66
< [15] CAM 4 Right HH 1:0:1:4:1:1:A95102C:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.66
< [16] Cam 5 - Sls Rev Bty 1:0:1:5:1:1:A95102C:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.66
< [17] Cam 6 - Shot Gm Clk 1:0:1:6:1:1:A95102C:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.66
< [18] Cam 7 - Scoreboard 1:0:1:7:1:1:A95102C:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.66
< Transponder SNR ='12.87'(Locked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4191V / 2615 / 3/4' > Tp# 6
< Transponder SNR ='4.19'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 73.40
> <

Blind Scan Time = 2 Min. 19 Sec.
18 Channels ( TV = 18 Radio = 0) 6 of 6 Transponders Scanned.

[el bandido]

A good example of Blindscan junk can be seen at 61w c band. Ridiculous....


Scan Report

< File created on Friday, March 01, 2024 at 20:18:05 >
< Satellite = 61.0W C-band Amazonas 2/3/5 61.1 W >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 3625 to 4800 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner A: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3730V / 2435 / AUTO' > Tp# 1
< Transponder SNR ='652.35'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 83.49 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3738H / 2885 / AUTO' > Tp# 2
< Transponder SNR ='652.35'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 78.90 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3782H / 2434 / AUTO' > Tp# 3
< Transponder SNR ='652.35'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 76.15 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3835V / 2527 / AUTO' > Tp# 4
< Transponder SNR ='652.35'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 86.24 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3941V / 5000 / 3/4' > Tp# 5
< [1] SBTRS_HD 1:0:1:CA40:652:652:BAD8F65:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.3
< [2] SBTRS_1SEG 1:0:C0:CA58:652:652:BAD8F65:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.3
< [3] 3941V SID 0xca58 1:0:1:CA58:652:652:BAD8F65:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.3
< Transponder SNR ='12.3'(Locked), LNB Power = 89.00 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3959H / 3750 / 2/3' > Tp# 6
< [4] ALTV 1:0:0:1:0:0:BAD0F77:0:0:0: /> SNR = 9.54
< Transponder SNR ='9.54'(Locked), LNB Power = 88.08 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3968H / 9875 / 2/3' > Tp# 7
< [5] TELEFUTURO HD 1:0:1:1:1:2AF:BAD0F80:0:0:0: /> SNR = 9.1
< [6] LA TELE HD 1:0:1:2:1:2AF:BAD0F80:0:0:0: /> SNR = 9.1
< [7] NOTICIAS PARAGUAY 1:0:1:3:1:2AF:BAD0F80:0:0:0: /> SNR = 9.1
< [8] MONUMENTAL TV 1:0:1:4:1:2AF:BAD0F80:0:0:0: /> SNR = 9.1
< [9] PRO TV 1:0:1:5:1:2AF:BAD0F80:0:0:0: /> SNR = 9.1
< [10] E40 TV SD 1:0:1:6:1:2AF:BAD0F80:0:0:0: /> SNR = 9.1
< Transponder SNR ='9.1'(Locked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 3972V / 6742 / 3/4' > Tp# 8
< Transponder SNR ='9.03'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 89.00 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3975H / 2500 / 2/3' > Tp# 9
< [11] ALESP MPEG2 1:0:1:1:1:1:BAD0F87:0:0:0: /> SNR = 8.76
< Transponder SNR ='8.76'(Locked), LNB Power = 86.24 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3990V / 5000 / 3/4' > Tp# 10
< [12] TBC 1:0:1:1:1:1:BAD8F96:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.79
< [13] VIVAX 1:0:1:2:1:1:BAD8F96:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.79
< Transponder SNR ='10.82'(Locked), LNB Power = 85.33 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3992H / 1667 / 4/5' > Tp# 11
< [14] Telerama_Ecuador 1:0:1:1:1:1:BAD0F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 9.29
< Transponder SNR ='9.29'(Locked), LNB Power = 80.74 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4019H / 27537 / 3/4' > Tp# 12
< Transponder SNR ='8.96'(Locked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4023V / 5000 / 3/4' > Tp# 13
< [15] 4023V SID 0x1bc0 1:0:1:1BC0:DE:0:BAD8FB7:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.0
< [16] 4023V SID 0x1bd8 1:0:1:1BD8:DE:0:BAD8FB7:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.0
< Transponder SNR ='10.0'(Locked), LNB Power = 89.00 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4040V / 23333 / 4/5' > Tp# 14
< [17] TCM HD 1:0:1:A:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [18] TOON E HD 1:0:1:B:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [19] CBS 1:0:1:C:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [20] HGTV 1:0:1:D:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [21] Food 1:0:1:E:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [22] Travel 1:0:1:F:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [23] Discovery 1:0:1:10:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [24] Nick 1:0:1:11:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [25] ESPN U HD 1:0:1:15:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [26] ESPN HD 1:0:1:16:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [27] ESPN 2 HD 1:0:1:17:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [28] ESPN SEC HD 1:0:1C:18:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [29] CNN HD 1:0:1:19:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [30] CruiseSat Live 1:0:1:1B:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [31] ESPN SYN 780 1:0:1:C8:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [32] Rai Italia 1 HD (NTSC) 1:0:1:12C:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [33] CE_RTL 1:0:1:12D:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< [34] TVEA HD 1:0:1:15E:1:1:BAD8FC8:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.21
< Transponder SNR ='10.42'(Locked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4093H / 11441 / 5/6' > Tp# 15
< Transponder SNR ='2.11'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 90.83 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4139H / 4543 / 3/4' > Tp# 16
< [35] 4139H SID 0x01 1:0:1:1:1:0:BAD102B:0:0:0: /> SNR = 8.2
< Transponder SNR ='8.2'(Locked), LNB Power = 85.33 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4158H / 4000 / 2/3' > Tp# 17
< [36] RPC HD 1:0:1:1:1:1:BAD103E:0:0:0: /> SNR = 9.54
< [37] UNICANAL HD 1:0:1:2:1:1:BAD103E:0:0:0: /> SNR = 9.54
< Transponder SNR ='9.54'(Locked), LNB Power = 84.41 >

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4170V / 3409 / 5/6' > Tp# 18
< Transponder SNR ='0.0'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 88.08 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4173V / 1667 / 5/6' > Tp# 19
< [38] ABC TV PY BK 1:0:19:2:1:1:BAD904D:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.95
< Transponder SNR ='13.95'(Locked), LNB Power = 88.08 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4178H / 3750 / 3/4' > Tp# 20
< [39] TV CAPIXABA 1SEG 1:0:C0:42F8:217:217:BAD1052:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.33
< [40] TV CAPIXABA HD 1:0:1:42E0:217:217:BAD1052:0:0:0: /> SNR = 10.33
< Transponder SNR ='10.33'(Locked), LNB Power = 77.99 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4183V / 3900 / 3/5' > Tp# 21
< Transponder SNR ='0.0'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 88.08 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4591V / 5076 / AUTO' > Tp# 22
< Transponder SNR ='652.35'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4608V / 2667 / 4/5' > Tp# 23
< Transponder SNR ='9.54'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4612V / 2667 / AUTO' > Tp# 24
< Transponder SNR ='652.35'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 90.83 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4645V / 5524 / AUTO' > Tp# 25
< Transponder SNR ='652.35'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 89.91 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4660V / 5231 / AUTO' > Tp# 26
< Transponder SNR ='652.35'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4673V / 2455 / AUTO' > Tp# 27
< Transponder SNR ='652.35'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4677V / 2762 / AUTO' > Tp# 28
< Transponder SNR ='652.35'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4699V / 2969 / AUTO' > Tp# 29
< Transponder SNR ='9.03'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4717V / 4166 / AUTO' > Tp# 30
< Transponder SNR ='10.41'(Locked), LNB Power = 91.75
> <

Blind Scan Time = 12 Min. 56 Sec.
40 Channels ( TV = 40 Radio = 0) 30 of 30 Transponders Scanned.

[el bandido]

A scan of 97w Ku in the wind and rain. More trash in blindscan shown here. Note the total scan time. This satellite should take around 3 minutes from start to finish. The trash slows it down...


Scan Report

< File created on Friday, March 01, 2024 at 20:00:20 >
< Satellite = 97.0W Ku-band Galaxy 19 >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 11700 to 12750 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner B: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11770V / 10169 / AUTO' > Tp# 1
< Transponder SNR ='11.24'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 76.15 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11841V / 16899 / 3/4' > Tp# 2
< Transponder SNR ='8.48'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 72.48 >

< 'DVB-S 11843H / 22001 / 3/4' > Tp# 3
< [1] HOPE CHANNEL 1:0:1:1:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [2] Daystar 1:0:1:2:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [3] City Life Radio (Radio #1) 1:0:2:3:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [4] THE WORD NETWORK 1:0:1:5:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [5] KNLB Christian Radio (Radio #2) 1:0:2:7:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [6] Duna World 1:0:1:8:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [7] Duna World Radio (DWR) (Radio #3) 1:0:2:9:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [8] HOPE CHANNEL 1:0:1:A:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [9] LLBN-His Word TV 1:0:1:B:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [10] ESPERANZA TV 1:0:1:C:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [11] Overcomer Radio (Radio #4) 1:0:2:F:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [12] TVGE INTERNATIONAL 1:0:1:10:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [13] TVR International NTSC 1:0:1:11:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [14] Radio Libertad 1:0:1:1A:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [15] SBN Domestic 1:0:1:47:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [16] QVTV 1:0:1:4B:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [17] Life Talk Radio (Radio #5) 1:0:2:70:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [18] Lifetalk Translator (Radio #6) 1:0:2:71:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [19] HOPE CHANNEL 1:0:1:C9:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [20] ESPERANZA TV 1:0:1:CA:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< [21] SATAV 1:0:C:D2:DC:1:A462E43:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.55
< Transponder SNR ='12.79'(Locked), LNB Power = 72.48 >

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11858V / 5454 / 3/4' > Tp# 4
< Transponder SNR ='10.35'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 72.48 >

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 11870V / 19999 / 4/5' > Tp# 5
< [22] M_KU_MTN_G19_NAK_N01_404 --- UnKnown Service Type E: 1:0:E:194:194:1:A46AE5E:0:0:0: /> SNR = 9.53
< [23] 1:0:0:1:194:1:A46AE5E:0:0:0: /> SNR = 9.53
< Transponder SNR ='9.29'(Locked), LNB Power = 75.23 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11917V / 2640 / 5/6' > Tp# 6
< Transponder SNR ='9.4'(Locked), LNB Power = 66.98 >

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 11927H / 7273 / 3/5' > Tp# 7
< Transponder SNR ='11.8'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 64.22 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11961V / 21998 / 3/4' > Tp# 8
< [24] TRT Turk 1:0:1:3E9:514:263E:A46AEB9:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.55
< Transponder SNR ='13.55'(Locked), LNB Power = 79.82 >

< 'DVB-S 11967H / 21598 / 5/6' > Tp# 9
< [25] Al Rabiaa TV 1:0:19:331:E:13:A462EBF:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.0
< [26] Channel 8 ARA 1:0:19:333:E:13:A462EBF:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.0
< [27] ALMOHTADI HD 1:0:19:33B:E:13:A462EBF:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.0
< [28] Channel 8 KUR 1:0:19:33D:E:13:A462EBF:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.0
< [29] JAMEJAM2 HD 1:0:19:5F2:E:13:A462EBF:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.0
< [30] PRESS TV HD 1:0:19:5FB:E:13:A462EBF:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.0
< [31] HISPAN TV 1:0:16:5FC:E:13:A462EBF:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.0
< [32] iFILM ENGLISH 1:0:16:5FD:E:13:A462EBF:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.0
< Transponder SNR ='12.0'(Locked), LNB Power = 69.73 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11987V / 11102 / 1/2' > Tp# 10
< Transponder SNR ='12.98'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 80.74 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 12010H / 2500 / 1/2' > Tp# 11
< Transponder SNR ='12.0'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 66.06 >

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12023V / 22502 / 3/4' > Tp# 12
< Transponder SNR ='7.55'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 84.41 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 12028H / 21999 / 3/4' > Tp# 13
< [33] TRT Turk 1:0:1:1E6E:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [34] Supreme Master TV 1:0:1:1E6F:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [35] Al Bayyinat TV 1:0:1:1E70:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [36] BogBlag TV 1:0:1:1E71:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [37] Victory TV 1:0:1:1E72:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [38] Silk Way 1:0:1:1E74:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [39] Kentron TV 1:0:1:1E75:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [40] CJTL Radio (Radio #7) 1:0:2:1E76:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [41] Faith Radio Network (Radio #8) 1:0:2:1E77:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [42] Spirit and Truth (Radio #9) 1:0:2:1E78:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [43] TV TRWAM HD 1:0:1:1E79:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [44] DUNAMIS TV 1:0:1:1E7D:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [45] ANGEL TV America 1:0:1:1E7E:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [46] AssyriaSAT 1:0:1:1E7F:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [47] RUDAW TV 1:0:1:1E82:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [48] CTN HD 1:0:1:1E85:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [49] 3ABN S2-Music Radio (Radio #10) 1:0:2:1E86:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [50] 3ABN S2-Radio (Radio #11) 1:0:2:1E87:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [51] S2-Radio74 (Radio #12) 1:0:2:1E88:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [52] 3ABN S2-Latino Radio (Radio #13) 1:0:2:1E89:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [53] 3ABN S2 1:0:1:1E8A:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [54] Amazing Facts TV HD 1:0:1:1E8B:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [55] Amazing Discoveries New 1:0:1:1E8C:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [56] Radio Maryja Radio (Radio #14) 1:0:2:1EDD:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [57] FirstLight 1:0:1:1E8D:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< [58] TEST 1:0:1:1E8E:12D:BB9:A462EFC:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.97
< Transponder SNR ='13.97'(Locked), LNB Power = 77.07 >

< 'DVB-S 12054V / 22001 / 3/4' > Tp# 14
< [59] Viet Global Mall 1:0:1:4:7:1:A46AF16:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.01
< [60] VIETNAM IBC-TV 1:0:1:F:7:1:A46AF16:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.01
< [61] TBN TV 1:0:1:13E:7:1:A46AF16:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.01
< [62] Church Channel 1:0:1:13F:7:1:A46AF16:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.01
< [63] Smile of a Child 1:0:1:141:7:1:A46AF16:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.01
< [64] Positiv 1:0:1:142:7:1:A46AF16:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.01
< [65] Al Maghribia 1:0:1:17C:7:1:A46AF16:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.01
< [66] 2M Morocco 1:0:1:17D:7:1:A46AF16:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.01
< [67] University Network (Radio #15) 1:0:2:17E:7:1:A46AF16:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.01
< [68] Tele Congo 1:0:1:20C:7:1:A46AF16:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.01
< [69] Radio Congo (Radio #16) 1:0:2:20D:7:1:A46AF16:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.01
< [70] ARMPUB TV 1:0:1:20F:7:1:A46AF16:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.01
< Transponder SNR ='13.62'(Locked), LNB Power = 86.24 >

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12082H / 7273 / 3/4' > Tp# 15
< Transponder SNR ='10.0'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 74.32 >

< 'DVB-S 12085V / 20759 / 3/4' > Tp# 16
< [71] CCTV 4N 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:A46AF35:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.62
< [72] CGTN 1:0:1:2:1:FFFF:A46AF35:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.62
< [73] CGTN F 1:0:1:3:1:FFFF:A46AF35:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.62
< [74] CGTN E 1:0:1:7:1:FFFF:A46AF35:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.62
< [75] CGTN DOCUMENTARY 1:0:1:8:1:FFFF:A46AF35:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.62
< Transponder SNR ='13.62'(Locked), LNB Power = 84.41 >

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12114H / 10001 / 3/4' > Tp# 17
< Transponder SNR ='8.54'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 80.74 >

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 12116V / 10000 / 3/4' > Tp# 18
< Transponder SNR ='10.77'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 83.49 >

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 12125V / 3515 / 5/6' > Tp# 19
< Transponder SNR ='11.13'(UnLocked), LNB Power = 73.40 >

< 'DVB-S 12147V / 22002 / 3/4' > Tp# 20
< [76] Palestinian Satellite Channel 1:0:1:321:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [77] Oman TV HD 1:0:1:322:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [78] Sudan TV 1:0:1:323:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [79] Al Ekhbariya 1:0:1:325:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [80] Sharjat TV 1:0:1:327:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [81] Canal Algerie 1:0:1:328:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [82] Jordan TV 1:0:1:32C:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [83] South Sudan 1:0:1:32E:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [84] Kuwait TV 1 1:0:1:32F:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [85] Kuwait Qurain 1:0:1:330:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [86] Program One (Radio #17) 1:0:2:338:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [87] Radio Quran (Radio #18) 1:0:2:339:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [88] Umdurman Radio (Radio #19) 1:0:2:33A:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [89] Umdurman Holy Quran (Radio #20) 1:0:2:33D:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [90] SSBC Radio (Radio #21) 1:0:2:33F:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< [91] Sharjah FM (Radio #22) 1:0:2:342:A:1:A46AF73:0:0:0: /> SNR = 12.26
< Transponder SNR ='12.26'(Locked), LNB Power = 83.49 >

< 'DVB-S 12153H / 19998 / 3/4' > Tp# 21
< [92] Libya Al Wataniya 1:0:1:7:5:1:A462F79:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.8
< [93] Saudi Quran 1:0:1:8:5:1:A462F79:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.8
< [94] Saudi Sunnah 1:0:1:9:5:1:A462F79:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.8
< [95] SAUDI TV HD 1:0:1:A:5:1:A462F79:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.8
< [96] Saudi Radio 2 (Radio #23) 1:0:2:25C:5:1:A462F79:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.8
< [97] European Program (Radio #24) 1:0:2:25D:5:1:A462F79:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.8
< [98] RTPI 1:0:1:260:5:1:A462F79:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.8
< [99] RDP Internacional (Radio #25) 1:0:2:261:5:1:A462F79:0:0:0: /> SNR = 13.8
< Transponder SNR ='13.8'(Locked), LNB Power = 84.41 >

< 'DVB-S 12178V / 23000 / 3/4' > Tp# 22
< [100] Hwazan 1:0:1:1:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [101] RTS1 1:0:1:3:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [102] STAR 3 Radio (Radio #26) 1:0:2:4:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [103] Yemen Radio 1:0:1:6:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [104] Al Mayadeen TV 1:0:1:7:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [105] Muslim TV 1:0:1:8:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [106] Yemen TV NTSC 1:0:1:9:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [107] GUIDE US TV 1:0:1:A:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [108] EEE NETWORK 1:0:1:B:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [109] Good Idea TV 1:0:1:C:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [110] WRN ENG NAM (Radio #27) 1:0:2:D:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [111] HAITI RADIO (Radio #28) 1:0:2:F:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [112] IRAN_E_ARYAEE 1:0:1:10:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [113] NAT TV 1:0:1:11:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [114] Impact TV 1:0:1:14:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [115] Parole Di Vita 1:0:1:15:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [116] RBN Radio 1 (Radio #29) 1:0:2:17:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [117] Al Sirat TV 1:0:1:1A:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< [118] Bethel TV 1:0:1:1B:7:1:A46AF92:0:0:0: /> SNR = 11.43
< Transponder SNR ='11.43'(Locked), LNB Power = 83.49 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 12184H / 22500 / 2/3' > Tp# 23
< [119] Qatar TV HD 1:0:1:3:1:1:A462F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 14.59
< [120] MTA8 Main 1:0:1:4:1:1:A462F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 14.59
< [121] MTA1+3 1:0:1:5:1:1:A462F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 14.59
< [122] MTA3 1:0:1:6:1:1:A462F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 14.59
< [123] MTA8 Urdu Trans 1:0:1:7:1:1:A462F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 14.59
< [124] MTA8 English Trans 1:0:1:8:1:1:A462F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 14.59
< [125] MTA8 French Trans 1:0:1:9:1:1:A462F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 14.59
< [126] MTA8 German Trans 1:0:1:A:1:1:A462F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 14.59
< [127] MTA8 Arabic Trans 1:0:1:B:1:1:A462F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 14.59
< [128] MTA8 Bengali Trans 1:0:1:C:1:1:A462F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 14.59
< [129] MTA8 Spanish Trans 1:0:1:D:1:1:A462F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 14.59
< [130] WEDO Big Stories 1:0:1:3E9:1:1:A462F98:0:0:0: /> SNR = 14.59
< Transponder SNR ='14.59'(Locked), LNB Power = 84.41
> <

Blind Scan Time = 6 Min. 55 Sec.
130 Channels ( TV = 101 Radio = 29) 23 of 23 Transponders Scanned.

[eastof111]

Found the same thing on 87 ku, 97 ku and recently I scanned 129 ku and it displayed the following:

18083

Then for more info I scanned them anyway and got this:

18084

Basically the same happened with 87 ku and 97 ku.

[el bandido]

That scan error should not happen! Am trying to clean that up.

[el bandido]

We have two scan problems to look at.
One scan problem is the return of bogus frequencies.
The other signal problem is the receiver hanging during a blindscan/servicescan.

Bogus Frequencies:
TNAP images 4.0 and above have an "unfiltered" blindscan, which allows us to see any trash that is found in a blindscan. Other images filter the trash, so you do not see it, but it does exist and can be seen in terminal debug. This will have to be worked on later as there is no real good solution for it right now, except to run a filter.

Receiver Hanging during scans (Blindscan/ServiceScan):
The SF8008 Supreme is set slightly different than most other enigma2 receivers that have a decent scan capability. The SF8008 finds and returns transponders that do not appear to make sense, but they are valid frequencies. Some of these transponders are Unlocked due to no signal or due to other circumstances. Some transponders that are returned appear to have no signal at all, so a signal error is returned. It looks like Enigma2 does not know how to handle this, and you could debate whether these transponders should be returned at all.

A solution for the scan hanging may have been found by reducing the timeout times in enigma2. Changing the timeout times may effect older receivers such as a Duo2. The timeout times were set Years ago before the SF8008 Supreme existed. Reducing the timeout times is a fine line. Reduce too much and transponder services will not be scanned. The flip-side is if the timeout times are set too high, then the receiver hangs.

Some of the scan timeout timers have been adjusted in TNAP5.1 and the results can be seen below. The SF8008 Supreme is motorized for this example. with the cable for tuner 2 disconnected. Tuner 2 in this example is motorized ku band. A ku channel is called, then an attempt is made to scan a ku transponder, which is "Dead" as no antenna is connected.

Dead transponder scanned on motorized antenna system:
18094


Dead transponder scanned on motorized antenna system WITH timeout timers adjusted:
18095


Blindscan/ServiceScan results do not seem to be changed with the timeout timers modified so they have been included in TNAP5.1. Perform an online Software update or use terminal (opkg update && opkg upgrade) to get these changes in Tnap5.1.

[el bandido]

115 West C band was a "problem"satellite for my SF8008 Supreme. The receiver would hang or take an enormous amount of time to scan this satellite. Adjusting the timeout timers seems to have fixed it ---at least for now. Scan results on other c band satellites also give good to satisfactory results. Ku band has not been tested yet.

18096


Plenty of Unlocked transponders on this one.


Scan Report

< File created on Wednesday, March 06, 2024 at 12:41:48 >
< Satellite = 114.9W C-band Eutelsat 115 West B 115.0 W >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 3625 to 4800 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner A: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3638H / 1600 / 8/9' > Tp# 1
< Transponder SNR =['7.42db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 61.47 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3767H / 3333 / AUTO' > Tp# 2
< Transponder SNR =['555.36db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 81.66 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3771H / 3333 / 3/5' > Tp# 3
< Transponder SNR =['555.36db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 80.74 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3798V / 1660 / 3/5' > Tp# 4
< Transponder SNR =['0.75db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 76.15 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3853H / 1666 / 2/3' > Tp# 5
< Transponder SNR =['3.76db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 80.74 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3857H / 4440 / 5/6' > Tp# 6
< Transponder SNR =['3.01db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 86.24 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3924V / 7256 / 8/9' > Tp# 7
< Transponder SNR =['0.97db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 86.24 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3925H / 6100 / 3/4' > Tp# 8
< [1] 3925H SID 0x3c --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:3C:0:0:9920F55:0:0:0: SNR = 7.67 />
< [2] 3925H SID 0x64 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:64:0:0:9920F55:0:0:0: SNR = 7.67 />
< [3] 3925H SID 0x384 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:384:0:0:9920F55:0:0:0: SNR = 7.67 />
< Transponder SNR =['7.67db'-Locked], LNB Power = 90.83 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4094V / 23810 / 2/3' > Tp# 9
< Transponder SNR =['0.97db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4109H / 9599 / 3/4' > Tp# 10
< [4] 4109H SID 0x08 1:0:1:8:4:0:992100D:0:0:0: SNR = 7.73 />
< [5] 4109H SID 0x09 1:0:1:9:4:0:992100D:0:0:0: SNR = 7.73 />
< Transponder SNR =['7.73db'-Locked], LNB Power = 89.91 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4119H / 1550 / 3/4' > Tp# 11
< [6] 88.1 MTY/GDL (Radio #1) 1:0:2:1:1:0:9921017:0:0:0: SNR = 8.87 />
< [7] OIR 1 (Radio #2) 1:0:2:2:1:0:9921017:0:0:0: SNR = 8.87 />
< [8] OIR 2 (Radio #3) 1:0:2:3:1:0:9921017:0:0:0: SNR = 8.87 />
< [9] ALFA (Radio #4) 1:0:2:4:1:0:9921017:0:0:0: SNR = 8.87 />
< [10] 690ELFON/RC1030 (Radio #5) 1:0:2:5:1:0:9921017:0:0:0: SNR = 8.87 />
< [11] RC DEP 1110 (Radio #6) 1:0:2:6:1:0:9921017:0:0:0: SNR = 8.87 />
< [12] LA Z 1:0:1:7:1:0:9921017:0:0:0: SNR = 8.87 />
< [13] JOYA 1:0:1:8:1:0:9921017:0:0:0: SNR = 8.87 />
< [14] UNIVERSAL 1:0:1:9:1:0:9921017:0:0:0: SNR = 8.87 />
< [15] UNIVERSAL ONLINE 1:0:1:A:1:0:9921017:0:0:0: SNR = 8.87 />
< Transponder SNR =['8.87db'-Locked], LNB Power = 83.49 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4122H / 3609 / 3/4' > Tp# 12
< [16] 10.1 1:0:1:101:1:1:992101A:0:0:0: SNR = 8.43 />
< Transponder SNR =['8.43db'-Locked], LNB Power = 87.16 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4131V / 6400 / 3/4' > Tp# 13
< [17] JUSTICIATV 1:0:1:1:1000:2000:9929023:0:0:0: SNR = 9.13 />
< Transponder SNR =['9.13db'-Locked], LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4140V / 6666 / 3/4' > Tp# 14
< [18] NoName 1:0:0:3:4:1:992902C:0:0:0: SNR = 9.54 />
< [19] Canal del Congre 1:0:1:1:4:1:992902C:0:0:0: SNR = 9.54 />
< [20] Canal del Congre 1:0:1:2:4:1:992902C:0:0:0: SNR = 9.54 />
< Transponder SNR =['9.54db'-Locked], LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4155V / 14401 / 3/4' > Tp# 15
< Transponder SNR =['6.53db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 91.75 >

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 4163H / 8333 / AUTO' > Tp# 16
< Transponder SNR =['4.77db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 83.49 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4172V / 13329 / 3/4' > Tp# 17
< Transponder SNR =['5.44db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 91.75
> <

Blind Scan Time = 5 Min. 35 Sec.
20 Channels ( TV = 14 Radio = 6) 17 of 17 Transponders Scanned.

[eastof111]

I keep using 99 ku as a reference for comparing before and after scans. I tried the blind scan on VIX and it behaved the same as in post #37.

I then tried ATV and it displayed:

18097

I updated ATV (11 packages) and re-scanned and it showed a few more transponders:

18098

I think I will try a few other images to see how they behave.

[el bandido]

What are you using for a lnb? What antenna settings are you using? Any c band satellite to test?
The only problem I have on ku is 129w.

[el bandido]

Here are my results for 99w Ku:

18099<------------------------>18100


Scan Report

< File created on Wednesday, March 06, 2024 at 14:22:49 >
< Satellite = 99.2W Ku-band Galaxy 16 & T11/T14 >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 11700 to 12750 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner B: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11708H / 9357 / 3/5' > Tp# 1
< Transponder SNR =['16.49db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 76.15 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11718H / 2390 / 2/3' > Tp# 2
< [1] MONTANA PBS 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:A302DC6:0:0:0: SNR = 11.19 />
< Transponder SNR =['11.19db'-Locked], LNB Power = 73.40 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11740V / 30000 / 1/2' > Tp# 3
< [2] 11740V SID 0x5014 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:5014:441:0:A30ADDC:0:0:0: SNR = 11.59 />
< [3] 11740V SID 0x5015 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:5015:441:0:A30ADDC:0:0:0: SNR = 11.59 />
< [4] 11740V SID 0x9c40 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:9C40:441:0:A30ADDC:0:0:0: SNR = 11.59 />
< [5] 11740V SID 0x9c41 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:9C41:441:0:A30ADDC:0:0:0: SNR = 11.59 />
< Transponder SNR =['11.59db'-Locked], LNB Power = 84.41 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11760H / 30000 / 5/6' > Tp# 4
< [6] Cozi TV Ku 1:0:1:1C:1:1:A302DF0:0:0:0: SNR = 15.92 />
< [7] NBC East HD 1:0:1:3D:1:1:A302DF0:0:0:0: SNR = 15.92 />
< [8] NBC Central HD 1:0:1:3E:1:1:A302DF0:0:0:0: SNR = 15.92 />
< [9] NBC Mountain HD 1:0:1:3F:1:1:A302DF0:0:0:0: SNR = 15.92 />
< [10] NBC West HD 1:0:1:40:1:1:A302DF0:0:0:0: SNR = 15.92 />
< [11] NBC Occasional 1 HD 1:0:1:41:1:1:A302DF0:0:0:0: SNR = 15.92 />
< [12] NBC Occasional 2 HD 1:0:1:42:1:1:A302DF0:0:0:0: SNR = 15.92 />
< [13] NBC Occasional 3 HD 1:0:1:43:1:1:A302DF0:0:0:0: SNR = 15.92 />
< [14] CTS Data Carousel 1:0:C:44:1:1:A302DF0:0:0:0: SNR = 15.92 />
< Transponder SNR =['15.8db'-Locked], LNB Power = 87.16 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11768V / 8750 / 5/6' > Tp# 5
< Transponder SNR =['7.96db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 85.33 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11775V / 2800 / 5/6' > Tp# 6
< [15] WPIX KU Encoder 1 1:0:1:2:1:FFFF:A30ADFF:0:0:0: SNR = 9.29 />
< Transponder SNR =['9.29db'-Locked], LNB Power = 73.40 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11789H / 11912 / AUTO' > Tp# 7
< Transponder SNR =['11.21db'-Locked], LNB Power = 85.33 >

< 'DVB-S 11801H / 6336 / 1/2' > Tp# 8
< Transponder SNR =['16.43db'-Locked], LNB Power = 79.82 >

< 'DVB-S 11858H / 1000 / AUTO' > Tp# 9
< [16] STX1____STX2 (Radio #1) 1:0:2:1:1000:2000:A302E52:0:0:0: SNR = 14.31 />
< [17] SAT_3L_4R (Radio #2) 1:0:2:2:1000:2000:A302E52:0:0:0: SNR = 14.31 />
< [18] SAT_5L_6R (Radio #3) 1:0:2:3:1000:2000:A302E52:0:0:0: SNR = 14.31 />
< [19] not_assigned (Radio #4) 1:0:2:4:1000:2000:A302E52:0:0:0: SNR = 14.31 />
< [20] not_assigned (Radio #5) 1:0:2:5:1000:2000:A302E52:0:0:0: SNR = 14.31 />
< [21] not_assigned (Radio #6) 1:0:2:6:1000:2000:A302E52:0:0:0: SNR = 14.31 />
< [22] Get-5041_Get2-xxxx (Radio #7) 1:0:2:7:1000:2000:A302E52:0:0:0: SNR = 14.31 />
< [23] FBN_AIR_FNC_AIR (Radio #8) 1:0:2:8:1000:2000:A302E52:0:0:0: SNR = 14.31 />
< Transponder SNR =['14.31db'-Locked], LNB Power = 66.98 >

< 'DVB-S 11875V / 5000 / 3/4' > Tp# 10
< [24] 11875V SID 0x5014 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:5014:441:0:A30AE63:0:0:0: SNR = 16.43 />
< [25] 11875V SID 0x9c40 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:9C40:441:0:A30AE63:0:0:0: SNR = 16.43 />
< Transponder SNR =['16.43db'-Locked], LNB Power = 73.40 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11901V / 34286 / AUTO' > Tp# 11
< [26] BEAM_G16_W01_0067 --- UnKnown Service Type E: 1:0:E:44:43:1:A30AE7D:0:0:0: SNR = 12.16 />
< [27] NoName 1:0:0:1:43:1:A30AE7D:0:0:0: SNR = 12.16 />
< Transponder SNR =['12.04db'-Locked], LNB Power = 81.66 >

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11960H / 16728 / 3/4' > Tp# 12
< Transponder SNR =['13.12db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 70.65 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11995V / 1075 / 2/3' > Tp# 13
< [28] FSIE (Radio #9) 1:0:2:1:3:1:A30AEDB:0:0:0: SNR = 14.77 />
< [29] FSIW (Radio #10) 1:0:2:2:3:1:A30AEDB:0:0:0: SNR = 14.77 />
< [30] FSIPHX (Radio #11) 1:0:2:3:3:1:A30AEDB:0:0:0: SNR = 14.77 />
< Transponder SNR =['14.77db'-Locked], LNB Power = 63.31 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 12006V / 2757 / 2/3' > Tp# 14
< Transponder SNR =['7.0db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 65.14 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 12023V / 2275 / 3/4' > Tp# 15
< [31] 1A (Radio #12) 1:0:2:37:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [32] 1A Hour 1 (Radio #13) 1:0:2:16:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [33] 1A Hour 2 (Radio #14) 1:0:2:1B:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [34] All Things Considered (Radio #15) 1:0:2:33:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [35] Badri ENCO Test (Radio #16) 1:0:2:C:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [36] BBC APM World Service (Radio #17) 1:0:2:B:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [37] BBN (Radio #18) 1:0:2:7:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [38] California Report Morning Feed (Radio #19) 1:0:2:13:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [39] California Primary Election Night 2024 (Radio #20) 1:0:2:3:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [40] California Report Morning Feed II (Radio #21) 1:0:2:1C:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [41] C-Band Barker (Radio #22) 1:0:2:2D:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [42] Classical 24 (Radio #23) 1:0:2:14A:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [43] Democracy Now 08:00 ET M-F Live w/File (Radio #24) 1:0:2:11:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [44] Fresh Air with Terry Gross (Radio #25) 1:0:2:1D:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [45] Good Karma Brands Milwaukee LLC - HUB - Brewers (Radio #26) 1:0:2:21:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [46] Good Karma Brands Milwaukee LLC - HUB - Bucs (Radio #27) 1:0:2:20:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [47] Inauguration Address of Kathy Hochul (Radio #28) 1:0:2:2E:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [48] Jim Duff Test - BRK (Radio #29) 1:0:2:27:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [49] KANZ - HUB (Radio #30) 1:0:2:3F:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [50] KEMC - Ku HUB (Radio #31) 1:0:2:3B:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [51] KNAU (Radio #32) 1:0:2:31:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [52] KOSU (Radio #33) 1:0:2:3C:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [53] KPR (Radio #34) 1:0:2:19:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [54] KPR Audio Reader (Radio #35) 1:0:2:3E:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [55] KQEDs Statewide Forum (Radio #36) 1:0:2:2C:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [56] KSOS (Radio #37) 1:0:2:30:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [57] Ku-Band Barker (Radio #38) 1:0:2:45:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [58] KUFM - HUB (Radio #39) 1:0:2:D:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [59] KUNC - KuHUB (Radio #40) 1:0:2:25:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [60] KUSC - Ku HUB (Radio #41) 1:0:2:34:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [61] KUSU - Ku HUB (Radio #42) 1:0:2:28:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [62] KVPR - Ku-HUB (Radio #43) 1:0:2:22:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [63] Marketplace Morning I - 551 (Radio #44) 1:0:2:E:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [64] Marketplace Morning VI - 1051 (Radio #45) 1:0:2:18:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [65] Marketplace Morning II - 651 (Radio #46) 1:0:2:F:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [66] Marketplace Morning III - 751 (Radio #47) 1:0:2:10:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [67] Marketplace Morning IV - 851 (Radio #48) 1:0:2:14:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [68] Marketplace Morning V - 951 (Radio #49) 1:0:2:15:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [69] Marketplace (Radio #50) 1:0:2:35:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [70] Missouri Governors Debates - Live Missouri Thea (Radio #51) 1:0:2:2A:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [71] Morning Edition (Radio #52) 1:0:2:2:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [72] NPR Distribution Idle (Radio #53) 1:0:2:1BD:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [73] NNN/Native America Calling Live Wednesday 1300 (Radio #54) 1:0:2:A:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [74] NNN/Native America Calling Live Thursday 1300 (Radio #55) 1:0:2:42:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [75] NNN/Native America Calling Live Tuesday 1300 (Radio #56) 1:0:2:3A:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [76] NNN/Native America Calling ALASKA STATION FEED (Radio #57) 1:0:2:26:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [77] NOC Tone Test (Radio #58) 1:0:2:1:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [78] NPR Newscasts (Radio #59) 1:0:2:71:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [79] NPRs Here & Now (Radio #60) 1:0:2:1E:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [80] NPR Special Events Coverage/Breaking News (Radio #61) 1:0:2:5F:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [81] NPR Squawk (Radio #62) 1:0:2:24:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [82] NWPB - NWC - NPR & Classical Music (Radio #63) 1:0:2:4:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [83] NWPB - NWN - NPR News (Radio #64) 1:0:2:47:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [84] On Point from APM (Radio #65) 1:0:2:17:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [85] Engineering Test PGM (Radio #66) 1:0:2:10B:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [86] PCC - HUB (Radio #67) 1:0:2:38:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [87] POSTPONED UNTIL TBD: Missouri Governors Debates (Radio #68) 1:0:2:2B:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [88] PubMusic PubJazz1-General (Radio #69) 1:0:2:1BC:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [89] Radio Bilingue Series (Radio #70) 1:0:2:C3:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [90] Radio Bilingue - Ku HUB (Radio #71) 1:0:2:41:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [91] Streaming System Test Tone (Radio #72) 1:0:2:1F:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [92] Texas Statewide Newscasts (Radio #73) 1:0:2:12:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [93] Texas Standard (Radio #74) 1:0:2:1A:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [94] Texas Standard Statewide Primary Election Coverage (Radio #75) 1:0:2:5:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [95] The World (Radio #76) 1:0:2:32:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [96] The World 1800 LWSFT (Radio #77) 1:0:2:39:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [97] Today Explained Live (Radio #78) 1:0:2:2F:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [98] WAMC - Ku HUB (Radio #79) 1:0:2:8:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [99] WNRN - KuHUB (Radio #80) 1:0:2:23:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [100] WRVO-KuHUB (Radio #81) 1:0:2:40:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [101] WUAL (Radio #82) 1:0:2:6:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [102] WUNC Music - HUB (Radio #83) 1:0:2:36:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [103] WUNC News - HUB (Radio #84) 1:0:2:3D:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [104] WVPB (Radio #85) 1:0:2:9:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< [105] YESFM - Ku HUB (Radio #86) 1:0:2:29:1:4:A30AEF7:0:0:0: SNR = 8.31 />
< Transponder SNR =['8.31db'-Locked], LNB Power = 61.47 >

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12063H / 1160 / 3/4' > Tp# 16
< Transponder SNR =['13.64db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 67.89 >

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12085H / 2000 / 3/4' > Tp# 17
< Transponder SNR =['11.45db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 65.14 >

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 12096H / 3676 / 4/5' > Tp# 18
< [106] 12096H SID 0x01 1:0:1:1:0:0:A302F40:0:0:0: SNR = 7.86 />
< Transponder SNR =['7.86db'-Locked], LNB Power = 67.89 >

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12121H / 16729 / 3/4' > Tp# 19
< Transponder SNR =['13.47db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 82.57 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 12141V / 29998 / 3/4' > Tp# 20
< [107] HD01 1:0:1:3:1:1:A30AF6D:0:0:0: SNR = 12.91 />
< [108] HD02 1:0:1:4:1:1:A30AF6D:0:0:0: SNR = 12.91 />
< [109] HD03 1:0:1:5:1:1:A30AF6D:0:0:0: SNR = 12.91 />
< [110] HD06 1:0:1:6:1:1:A30AF6D:0:0:0: SNR = 12.91 />
< [111] SD02 Create 1:0:1:C:1:1:A30AF6D:0:0:0: SNR = 12.91 />
< [112] FNX SD08 1:0:1:F:1:1:A30AF6D:0:0:0: SNR = 12.91 />
< [113] SD04 World 1:0:1:E:1:1:A30AF6D:0:0:0: SNR = 12.91 />
< Transponder SNR =['12.91db'-Locked], LNB Power = 88.08 >

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 12166V / 5000 / 2/3' > Tp# 21
< Transponder SNR =['12.51db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 83.49
> <

Blind Scan Time = 7 Min. 43 Sec.
113 Channels ( TV = 27 Radio = 86) 21 of 21 Transponders Scanned.



IMO, a decent scan of 99wku. Again, a bunch of Unlocked transponders, but the Supreme runs on through them. The timeout timer adjustment seems to help.

[eastof111]

Using a Maverick MK1-PLL 11.7-12.2 ghz, if 950-1450 mhz, 10750 mhz LO.

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Still waiting for Rick to get back to the office so that I can order an actuator.

[el bandido]

In antenna settings, Try Ku STD 10750 (Circular) instead of user defined.

[eastof111]

Tried it.... same results.

Just for the heck of it I tried KU INV 9750/10600, scanned and it shows:

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[el bandido]

Please post the scan report to go with that so we can see exactly what it is doing. Default will be in /tmp of receiver files. The scan report will show the transponders you got and the services found on them. This will show where the error in math is.

[eastof111]

There where a bunch of scan files from prior scans in the tmp directory. I zipped them anyway. Let me know if you want me to delete all these files from the directory and redo a new scan using the KU INV 9750/10600 setting.

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[el bandido]

150 Mhz out.
Same problem we had 10 years ago except the blindscan plugin has become more complicated. Let me see if I can fix it.

[el bandido]

Tried it.... same results.

Just for the heck of it I tried KU INV 9750/10600, scanned and it shows:

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Attached is a blindscan plugin that I think fixes your problem. Put it in the proper blindscan folder (/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/Blindscan), then Reboot. It should fix your issue or at least it did for me using user defined 10600 X3.

[el bandido]

If I understand the SF8008 Supreme correctly,
User Defined, 10750 Circular(renamed to something else in TNAP), and c band l.o 5750 use math calculations to display the correct transponder frequency in blindscan. C band 5150 and universal lnb do not need any math calculations as the SF8008 Supreme blindscan binary takes care of that.

When blindscanning,
Most receivers are locked to low band unless otherwise told to go to high band. The SF8008 Supreme seems to be different, and decides whether it needs to be low or high band based on lnb L.O.. So we have:
Universal lnb bands = low, 9750 & high, 10600
C band = low, 5150 (No high band)

Now to explain the problem.
Most enigma2 receivers are locked to low band in blindscan unless told otherwise.
The SF8008 Supreme Is Not Locked to low band and decides the band based on the lnb L.O. frequency. So a 10750 L.O. is set to high band by the Sf8008 Supreme blindscan binary, but the blindscan plugin math is set to low band. In the math equation for the transponder frequency, changing the frequency from 9750 to 10600 fixes the 10600 User defined lnb , and should also fix the 10750 user defined lnb. We will see....

[eastof111]

Thanks, will try it and hopefully it will fix the issue.

Is this a Supreme issue or does it affect the older 8008's too?

[el bandido]

It seems to be a SF8008 issue period. We will see what your results are, but I was having problems using User defined 10600 X 3 in Antenna setup. Universal worked fine, and my hack for the 5750 lnb worked fine. So it took a bit to understand what the problem is. I expect the 10750 lnb to be fixed, but if it isn't then we will do something else.

[eastof111]

Haven't tried the universal yet, thought I would stick with user defined x3 for now.

1- Deleted all 99 ku transponders
2- init 4
3- Copied plugin.py to receiver
4- Reboot

Using user defined 10750 x3, blind scanned 99 ku and:

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Then did a manual scan and it found:

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When I first received the receiver, I setup the motorized ku sats on tuner B. I encountered this same problem using blind scan. I initially had to use manual scan to setup all the ku sats on tuner B.

On tuner A, I setup my fixed ku sat dishes and the blind scan seems to work fine.

[el bandido]

Haven't tried the universal yet, thought I would stick with user defined x3 for now.

1- Deleted all 99 ku transponders


From Where did you delete the transponders? What file?
In Menu--->Information--->About, What version is your enigma2? It should be 3-5-2024.

Decide on one lnb setting and either tuner A or B and stay with it and we may can fix it. The file that would be most helpful is not included. The scan file with all of the transponders , shown in picture number 3(26 transponders scanned) would be most helpful. A scan log is created for every scan even when no channels or services are found. That 26 transponders scan log would tell exactly what is happening.

[eastof111]

Deleted from Satellites channel selection which is the green button and then selected 99 ku sat.

"Decide on one lnb setting and either tuner A or B and stay with it and we may can fix it"

Only one tuner (tuner B) is being used for 99 ku since initial setup.

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Image info:

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The image #3 shows that nothing was found. The attached zipped files in prior post #63 were the files found in the TMP directory. No other files were found that you indicate. Prior to any new scans, I now delete prior files in order to start with a clean TMP directory to avoid any confusion.

[el bandido]

Please do an online update or in telnet type opkg update && opkg upgrade. We need to see if the updates change anything.

See if you have this path: /media/usb. If you do the make a ServiceScan folder, the path being: /media/usb/ServiceScan. All of your scan logs will dump into the ServiceScan folder. The ServiceScan name has to be exact and is case sensitive.

I can try to figure out the problem from that 99W transponder screenshot, but a scan log even if empty makes life easier because the transponder information is in it. Maybe the enigma2 update will fix it...

[el bandido]

I managed to install a 10750 lnb onto the 1.2 meter dish. Let's see what needs to be done...

[eastof111]

Thanks, will upgrade TNAP and do a blind scan using the 10750 x3 selection.

Earlier this evening I tried the ATV image and upgraded image to latest packages. Did a blind scan with the 10750 x3 selection and it found nothing. Switched selection to circular lnb and it blind scanned fine. I guess ATV needs a little updating in their blind scan code.

[el bandido]

The SF8008 Supreme is a fairly new model, only being on the market now for a couple of months. DVB-S Blindscan is only used by a small group of users, so it is doubtful OpenATV, OpenVix..etc even knows about the 10750 l.o. problem. Universal lnb blindscan works. The 10750 lnb which is used mainly in North America is having problems which means hardly anyone knows this problem exists.

I found the lnb setting KU STD 10750 ( same as ATV Circular) worked fine without any modifications to the blindscan code. This setting also works for you in the ATV image. The modified blindscan plugin.py I attached earlier Does Not work on any 10750 lnb setting in blindscan. To revert and dump this code, Delete the blindscan plugin using the Plugin menu, then reinstall the Blindscan plugin, again in the Plugin menu. That is the easiest way to dump it. Update the receiver, then the KU STD 10750 setting should work in blindscan.

With the modified code, the lnb setting of 10600 X 3 works fine, whereas in the unmodified blindscan plugin.py , this setting does not work. The Circular 10750 lnb setting is shared with Russia, and our problem most likely lies in that area of the blindscan plugin code. ....Very confusing for me.

[el bandido]

The 2008 Enigma2 blindscan plugin supported only the Universal type lnb. No other lnb types existed in blindscan. A few years later, Huevos added a math routine to convert Universal lnb frequencies to C band frequencies in the blindscan plugin.

Today, we still use math to convert Universal lnb frequencies to something else, whether it be a Standard, 10750 l.o. lnb or a 5750 C band l.o. Some blindscan binaries have added C band 5151 l.o to their blindscan output so no need for math conversions when using a C band lnb with blindscan binaries that support it.

Octagon SF8008 and SF8008 Supreme support Universal and C band 5150 l.o. lnbs in their blindscan binary. Any other lnb l.o. besides these two types will require a math conversion. Octagon SF8008 and SF8008 Supreme also have Orbit position stuffed into their blindscan binary so the blindscan binary may read the transponders from the satellites.xml that you are blindscanning.

Here is what the blindscan command translates to for the SF8008 models:
cmd = start freq, end freq, start symbol rate value, stop symbol rate value, polarization, high or low band, frontend id, nim socket id, c band scan (yes or No), orbit position

My SF8008 Supreme and Sf8008 were having problems with certain Ku satellites returning c band frequencies. Tuner A is set for C band and Tuner B is set for Ku band. A Ku blindscan of 129 west would return c band frequencies, and a Ku blindscan of 117w would return c band frequencies. This happened with the tuner A antenna disconnected, and it also happened using the blindscan commands in terminal, which completely bypasses the blindscan plugin.

Then it was found that correct Ku frequencies were returned IF the orbit was changed. So somehow, some way, it seems the Octagon blindscan binary was changing the found frequencies to c band based on the orbit, or based on the transponders in that orbit location? Go figure...

As a repair to make the blindscan return the correct frequency band, the orbit location in blindscan has been fixed at 3601, which should equal nothing with transponders. This fix will be permanent unless it is found to cause problems.

Another online update is available online for the Supreme, and it should be installed for best scan results.

[eastof111]

I removed the motor from the bud and hand wrenched the dish to what I thought was 103 degrees. Did a blind scan on 103 and it did not find the listed channels for 103 but found this instead:

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Might this be the new Ses20 at 103.5?

Tomorrow will hand wrench to 101 degrees and see what pops up.

Disregard..... way off position. Will just wait until new motor arrives.

[el bandido]

Hard to say, but your 103w looks like 89w.
And when you have time, please delete the plugin.py file from the blindscan folder. That plugin.py file will be there until you flash an image if it is not removed. Thanks.

[eastof111]

Found out it was on 93.... Forgot to flash after I did a restore. Now it's up to date.

[eastof111]

So far did a blind scan of 55, 58, 61, 81, 87, 89, 91, 93, 97, 99, 101 C band and quite impressed with the fast scan speed. Also, like that some of the picons are automatically assigned to some of the channels, making picon assignment a much easier job and less time consuming.

[eastof111]

After checking Satbeams, I was hoping I could lock this one in, but no go.... might try another day.

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[el bandido]

What size dish are you using for 67W? Last time I checked, it took about 10db to look that 49000SR transponder. Sometimes I can scan the channels for the 49000 SR transponders using a 1.2 meter dish, but for me, it takes a 2.4 meter Prodelin with a decent pair of lnbs to view the channels on 67W. It is an interesting satellite.

[el bandido]

How to answer with a good sales/marketing response......lol

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yes start from sr 100.
blindscan works, on unicable blindscan you need to test, should be works


> But another question.....
>
> If the tuners can do blind scan, would unicable lnb's work with the tuners?
> AND, would the tuners be able to blind scan with the unicable lnb's?

> Also, can this receiver really blind scan signals with 100 symbol rates or is
> that just a typo error in your advertising?

> Thanks again,

I have been told they started working on the low symbol rate problem today.
A video has also been uploaded to YouTube that shows the SF8008 Supreme failing to find transponders and services below 1000 symbol rate where the Edision OS MIO 4K with a modified Avalink6261 driver does. Will be interesting to see if anything is done about it. We will see...


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[eastof111]

Good to know.

Still using a very, very old c/ku lnbf on a Winegard 10 footer. Now if Octagon by happenstance ever puts out a three or four tuner receiver using the Supreme layout, I will immediately swap the lnbf for Norsats....... LOL

[Babadem]

I have been told they started working on the low symbol rate problem today.
A video has also been uploaded to YouTube that shows the SF8008 Supreme failing to find transponders and services below 1000 symbol rate where the Edision OS MIO 4K with a modified Avalink6261 driver does. Will be interesting to see if anything is done about it. We will see...


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It would be great to see the results of improved updates.

[eastof111]

I was not expecting this:

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Any ideas?

[el bandido]

It's what it says: You moved to satellite position 177W. I don't know of anything being there. Remove it from your antenna setup if it is unwanted.

[eastof111]

I wasn't moving to 177w (not even activated in the tuner setting), but 117w.

Another error never displayed before:

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Won't manual scan either, says scan error.

Same with signal finder. says scan error.

I guess something got corrupted..... will do a restore and rescan 81ku and 117ku and see if it occurs again.

[el bandido]

Try this one:

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[el bandido]

After checking Satbeams, I was hoping I could lock this one in, but no go.... might try another day.

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You need 2db more from somewhere. I managed to lock the thing using a 1.2 meter dish. Never been able to do that before. The FEC is down to 2/3 which helps the signal, but hurts the picture.

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[el bandido]

For the command to blindscan, The SF8008 Supreme includes the orbit position. The SF8008 Does Not include the orbit position.I have set the SF8008 Supreme blindscan command to a hard code for the orbit that points to a location that does not exist. This was done because some Ku satellites were being blindscanned as c band satellites. The Ku frequencies that were found were being returned as junk c band frequencies. Hard coding the orbit to something that does not exist seems to have fixed the scan problem without effecting anything else. (This was discussed a bit earlier.)

Orbit location for blindscan used to be important. Some information about it is still embedded in the code. Here is an example of remarks found in one of the scan files:


if (m_flags & scanBlindSearch)
{
/*
* NOTE: for blindscan, the initial list of transponders does not need to contain valid transponders.
* Each of the provided transponders will be iterated (i.e. tuned with blindscan parameter) several times
* until a tune failure occurs. Each time a blindscan tune iteration returns ok,
* a new transponder has been found and will be scanned.
* Each transponder in the initial transponder list causes a full blindscan iteration run.
*
* Some of the parameters of the initial transponders will be used for the blindscan,
* but most will be ignored.
*
* For DVB-S, you need to provide a list of 4 transponders for each orbital position:
* one for each polarity (H/V or L/R), one for each band (hi/lo).
* The frequency defines the starting frequency within the desired band.
* The symbolrate defines the frequency search range, in MHz (frequency / 1000).
* The polarity defines on which polarity the search should run.
* All remaining transponder parameters will be ignored.
* So for each orbital position, 4 blindscan iteration runs will be done, one for each polarity/band 'quadrant'.
*
* For DVB-C, only one initial transponder has to be provided.
* The frequency defines the start of the blindscan.
* The symbolrate defines the frequency search range, in MHz (frequency / 1000000).
*
* For DVB-T, usually only one initial transponder has to be provided.
* The frequency defines the start of the blindscan.
* The bandwidth defines both the search step as well as the search bandwidth.
*/

That stuff applied in 2005 or 2006. But I don't see it applying for us today because of the way the blindscan is more or less put into a binary file for satellite blindscan. Still though, It is interesting as to WHY the Supreme has orbit included in the command. You can't just delete the orbit either: The blindscan will crash if you do. But you can give it a bogus orbit location and "All Is Well..." Go figure.

[el bandido]

I am a creature of comfort, and enjoy having the files for all four slots available at all times in case I want to do something. A hack has been made that basically goes like this:
if /media/usb/slot4.4 exists, then mount /dev/mmcblk0p16 /media/usb/slot4.

This hack fails if either folder does not exist in the proper location.
To use this hack make two folders on the SSD, named exacdtly slot4 and slot4.4
REBOOT the Supreme, and you will find all four slots mounted in the slot 4 folder, whether they are empty or not.
To end the hack, Delete the slot 4.4 folder and reboot. then delete the slot 4 folder.

Note: If you delete the slot 4 folder while it is mounted, OR if you delete anything in the slot 4 folder, then whatever you deleted is gone! Speaking from experience here, as I deleted the slot 4 folder while it was mounted and lost everything I had. Just be careful if you use this hack. It is optional. Doesn't have to be used. But it is available if wanted.

This hack uses about 1 GigaByte of space on my 1 TB SSD.

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[eastof111]

Very nice.... beats multi-booting into different slots to compare, test, copy or transfer files between images.

[eastof111]

After checking Satbeams, I was hoping I could lock this one in, but no go.... might try another day.

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Not there yet..... but getting closer....

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[el bandido]

You have Lock! 7.2 db should play on that satellite. Your yellow button is active which means channels are available!

[eastof111]

Yes it locks for a few seconds only.... still need to tweak some more.

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[eastof111]

Does the recall remote control button work on your receiver?

[el bandido]

I will see what can be done about that...Have you tried using Hotkey to map the recall remote control button?

[el bandido]

Recall key has been mapped. Should work in the next update or build.

[el bandido]

A sales video is shown in the link below. This sales video is comical as it shows the SF8008 Supreme scanning a satellite with predefined transponders (Not Blindscan). The video shows a 400 symbol rate transponder being scanned, but then the video is immediately cut so the result of the 400 symbol rate scan cannot be seen. Of course we know the 400 symbol rate scan failed. But it is kinda funny to watch them hide it.



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[ArloG]

Sounds like the good old Zgemma H7 'blindscan' ploy. Ever see the blindscan .xml files on the fatman's site? Holy mackerel !!

[el bandido]

Sounds like the good old Zgemma H7 'blindscan' ploy. Ever see the blindscan .xml files on the fatman's site? Holy mackerel !!

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[el bandido]

A 32 APSK transponder has been active 24/7 for a few days on 89w. This transponder is a golf feed and will disappear soon. Mostly, anything below a 4.5 meter dish will be marginal for 32 APSK feeds. The Supreme is marginal at best on this transponder while the regular SF8008 fails to lock it. So there is a slight advantage with the Supreme on this particular feed.


Scan Report

< File created on Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 12:10:54 >
< Satellite = 89.0W C-band Galaxy 28 89.1 W >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 3625 to 4800 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner A: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3780V / 34201 / AUTO' > Tp# 1
< Transponder SNR =['4.95db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 87.16 >
< Sat, 30 Mar 2024 12:10:57 />

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 3800H / 34000 / AUTO' > Tp# 2
< Transponder SNR =['4.98db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 89.91 >
< Sat, 30 Mar 2024 12:11:01 />

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 4080V / 36498 / 3/4' > Tp# 3
< [1] CAM 17 - 17 GREEN 1:0:1:9:1:FFFF:A958FF0:0:0:0: SNR = 12.94 />
< [2] CAM 15 GREEN 1:0:1:A:1:FFFF:A958FF0:0:0:0: SNR = 12.94 />
< [3] CAM 10 GREEN 1:0:1:B:1:FFFF:A958FF0:0:0:0: SNR = 12.94 />
< [4] BEAUTY 1:0:1:C:1:FFFF:A958FF0:0:0:0: SNR = 12.94 />
< [5] RF CAM 1 1:0:1:D:1:FFFF:A958FF0:0:0:0: SNR = 12.94 />
< [6] RF CAM 3 1:0:1:E:1:FFFF:A958FF0:0:0:0: SNR = 12.94 />
< [7] RF CAM 5 1:0:1:F:1:FFFF:A958FF0:0:0:0: SNR = 12.94 />
< [8] OBTW 1:0:1:10:1:FFFF:A958FF0:0:0:0: SNR = 12.94 />
< Transponder SNR =['12.94db'-Locked], LNB Power = 91.75 >
< Sat, 30 Mar 2024 12:11:05 />

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4111V / 15001 / 5/6' > Tp# 4
< [9] NASCAR FOX PRIMARY 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:A95900F:0:0:0: SNR = 12.84 />
< Transponder SNR =['12.84db'-Locked], LNB Power = 91.75 >
< Sat, 30 Mar 2024 12:11:08 />

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4191V / 2615 / 3/4' > Tp# 5
< Transponder SNR =['2.58db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 71.56 >
< Sat, 30 Mar 2024 12:11:27 /> <

Blind Scan Time = 1 Min. 48 Sec.
9 Channels ( TV = 9 Radio = 0) 5 of 5 Transponders Scanned.

[eastof111]

Thought I would try it for yuks..... best I could get was 11-12 db with no lock.

[el bandido]

My dish system doesn't do much better. The 32APSK locks and scans sometimes. Close to 14db is needed for an error free channel on my system. 32APSK could be considered the "Holy Grail" in satellite feed reception. It is good to see the Supreme working on 32APSK.

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[ArloG]

Don't you use a TBS card also? How does it compare?
Have you tried bumping the freq./sr around a bit to see what comes of it?

[el bandido]

I do have a TBS5925 that I have owned for a number of years. There are newer TBS cards on the market, but I do not own them and cannot speak from experience about them. What i have read about the newer TBS cards does not show any great improvement over the 5925 except DVB-S2X has been added. From my experience with the TBS5925, it had and advantage over most FTA receivers until around 2016. TBS pretty much lost most of its advantages when the Edision MIO4k's and the Octagon SF8008 came to market.

The APSK transponders are the benchmark for a decent DX type receiver. There are 16APSK feeds on C and Ku band. 32APSK with channels is rare, but they do exist at times. You need a decent satellite antenna system and a decent FTA type receiver to have a chance with the APSK transponders.

Messing with the frequency or symbol rate usually does little to nothing. Adjusting the dish itself usually does something. Then you have the joy of re calibrating every satellite. It all boils down to the satellite dish, coax cables, the parts that are on the satellite dish, and the way the parts are installed on the satellite dish. APSK transponders can be difficult.

There are some advantages to having a TBS card or similar. You can log the stream and do a few other things that are not hardly possible with a fta receiver. I was not happy with the SF8008 Supreme on ku band and felt like it was finding bogus transponders. A few satellites were checked with a person that uses a TBS card and has a decent Ku dish. The results from the Sf8008 Supreme and the TBS card were similar, almost identical. This is why I don't see much of an advantage today for tv watching between a TBS card and and decent DX type FTA receiver.

This is the second 32APSK transponder I have been able to check the SF8008 Supreme on. The Supreme gets a good review from me on the APSK transponders. Now they need to fix the low symbol rate transponders or have the decency to quit advertising low rate symbol transponders in the receiver description.

[ArloG]

I can understand your view of the TBS cards. I see people asking all over forums for suggestions on which one is the best decision. And they are expensive. So. Buy once, cry once is valid on that.
They do seem more for the commercial market. Although getting sound and a picture on your TV from one on the pcie bus in a pc takes dedication.
Specs and reviews show that they are more feature rich than your average everyday FTA receiver.
For me. I'm a little bit interested in data satellites also. TBS and maybe a few others have a piece of software that allows you to pull data from a multistream transponder.
Take the NWS NOAAPORT data feed on 121W tp 4020V. When it was on.....89W???...my mio would hardly lock on to it. The signal would rapidly fluctuate. Not due to signal.
But at times i was able to get lock for long enough to snag some data with Wireshark. And with dvbsnoop. Mostly text of weather data.
Setting up an actual ground station is quite involved. Novra receivers are usually the defacto standard. They only have an Ethernet port for output.
They can also be used for sat TV reception. But again. Require pc software to do it just like a TBS or like card does.
Sorry for the rant....

I have noticed that blindscans on my mio show freqs. and sr a bit off from sat charts. 3940 sr 300000 5/6 for example turn up 3939, 3941 and 29999 and 30001 with fec varying here and there.
So. What gives? Hammering the same satellite. Even with tp range limits. Give wavering reults. LNB drift? Maybe. PLL isn't supposed to do that.
So what to do? Plug in the exact parameters shown in charts? Accept frequency drift?
The signal meters in FTA receivers surely arent granular enough to let you see very fine strenght gains or losses. Right?

If 16 & 32 ASPK are really that finicky. Yeah. Up and down a ladder to get your carcass out of the signal path is surely a big pita.
I didn't exactly get what images people are running in their new 8008's. And EB. I'm pretty sure you tried the driver swap trik.
I know that stuffing in your TNAP mio drivers into ViX really made a huge difference in overall tuner performance.

Gut feeling? Are the new 8008 receivers just too new and waiting for improvements to be released a possible reality. Or could they go stagnant?
The reality is that more and more FTA receivers will have similar chipsets and Broadcom will go away.
As Broadcom is getting out of the FTA market. I hear from BC's horses mouth that all of that has been turned over to their IP equipment division.
I was looking for info for Broadcom studio and the resources to flash a new BCM chip in a mio4k+ that was given to me.It got cooked due to a possible HDMI cable hot swap
The transient suppressors at the HDMI port shorted to ground and took out the BCM chip. Dead data lines and the chip was super hot. 210f with a thermal cam.
Shut them off and do your cable thing before putting the wall wart plug back in.

[el bandido]

Satellite cards and satellite receivers are two different things. In 2012, a satellite card had some tv advantages because it could lock low symbol rates and APSK transponders. The TV satellite advantages a card had in 2012 had vanished in some FTA receiver models around 2016-2018. Yes, there are things you can only do with a satellite card.

Comparing a transponder frequency that your receiver found in blindscan to what someone else found in a blindscan may be different as lnb's or lnbf's are not very precise for the most part and neither is the fta receiver. Comparing the frequency you found against the frequency someone else found and then comparing those two frequencies to what is actually correct may result in 3 slightly different frequencies. There is also a doppler effect... The FEC can change or can be found wrong. Edision 4K receivers does a good job with finding the correct FEC.

Reception of APSK transponders that have tv channels is a test of the receiver along with a test of the satellite dish system. In a nutshell, APSK transponders are harder to receive and get a decent tv picture. Religious channels are usually the exact opposite of channels on APSK transponders. Religious channels usually take the least amount of signal to be viewable, and the picture quality reflects this.

The Octagon SF8008 Supreme is nothing more than a collection of old parts. The SF8008 Supreme uses a dated 4.4.35 kernel, which is the same as the SF8008. This kernel version should be good for a few more years, but they could have at least updated the kernel. Too lazy I guess, or didn't want to pay a guy to do it.

The Sf8008 Supreme performs well, and the internal SSD provision really makes a difference in the user experience. Some would say the wifi is better, but I don't use that feature much. And the SF8008 Supreme has a Useless-to-me Bluetooth. I see no reason to have this Bluetooth on the receiver, except maybe to advertise it as Bluetooth capable.

Ku blindscans with the SF8008 returns both 16 and 32 APSK transponders.Ku band is noted for having sports feeds on APSK transponders with channels, and I enjoy watching some of them. Shown below is a blindscan of 99w Ku that returns a bunch of junk transponders. But how do you sort the junk from the good? I don't know of an easy way to do that. Scanning all of this junk takes time. At least when the SF8008 Supreme finds APSK transponders with channels, it plays them. Some FTA receivers can't do that.

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Scan Report

< File created on Wednesday, April 03, 2024 at 17:02:39 >
< Satellite = 99.2W Ku-band Galaxy 16 & T11/T14 >
< Receiver = SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 >
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 >
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 >
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 10700 to 12750 MHz >
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps >
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False >
< Tuner = Tuner B: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11718H / 2390 / 2/3' > Tp# 1
< [1] MONTANA PBS 1:0:1:1:1:FFFF:A302DC6:0:0:0: SNR = 13.42 />
< Transponder SNR =['13.42db'-Locked], LNB Power = 66.98 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:02:42 />

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11724H / 4000 / 3/4' > Tp# 2
< [2] CBS NEWSPATH #1 1:0:19:1:102:0:A302DCC:0:0:0: SNR = 14.77 />
< Transponder SNR =['14.77db'-Locked], LNB Power = 69.73 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:02:45 />

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11740V / 30001 / 1/2' > Tp# 3
< [3] 11740V SID 0x5014 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:5014:441:0:A30ADDC:0:0:0: SNR = 11.98 />
< [4] 11740V SID 0x5015 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:5015:441:0:A30ADDC:0:0:0: SNR = 11.98 />
< [5] 11740V SID 0x9c40 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:9C40:441:0:A30ADDC:0:0:0: SNR = 11.98 />
< [6] 11740V SID 0x9c41 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:9C41:441:0:A30ADDC:0:0:0: SNR = 11.98 />
< Transponder SNR =['11.98db'-Locked], LNB Power = 86.24 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:02:50 />

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11761H / 30000 / 5/6' > Tp# 4
< [7] NBC East HD 1:0:1:3D:1:1:A302DF1:0:0:0: SNR = 16.89 />
< [8] NBC Central HD 1:0:1:3E:1:1:A302DF1:0:0:0: SNR = 16.89 />
< [9] NBC Mountain HD 1:0:1:3F:1:1:A302DF1:0:0:0: SNR = 16.89 />
< [10] NBC West HD 1:0:1:40:1:1:A302DF1:0:0:0: SNR = 16.89 />
< [11] NBC Occasional 1 HD 1:0:1:41:1:1:A302DF1:0:0:0: SNR = 16.89 />
< [12] NBC Occasional 2 HD 1:0:1:42:1:1:A302DF1:0:0:0: SNR = 16.89 />
< [13] NBC Occasional 3 HD 1:0:1:43:1:1:A302DF1:0:0:0: SNR = 16.89 />
< [14] CTS Data Carousel 1:0:C:44:1:1:A302DF1:0:0:0: SNR = 16.89 />
< Transponder SNR =['16.89db'-Locked], LNB Power = 87.16 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:02:52 />

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 11768V / 8750 / 5/6' > Tp# 5
< [15] 11768V SID 0x01 1:0:1:1:0:0:A30ADF8:0:0:0: SNR = 11.07 />
< [16] 11768V SID 0x02 1:0:1:2:0:0:A30ADF8:0:0:0: SNR = 11.07 />
< [17] 11768V SID 0x03 1:0:1:3:0:0:A30ADF8:0:0:0: SNR = 11.07 />
< [18] 11768V SID 0x04 1:0:1:4:0:0:A30ADF8:0:0:0: SNR = 11.07 />
< Transponder SNR =['11.07db'-Locked], LNB Power = 88.08 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:02:56 />

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11790H / 11913 / AUTO' > Tp# 6
< Transponder SNR =['12.05db'-Locked], LNB Power = 89.00 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:03:03 />

< 'DVB-S 11801H / 6338 / 1/2' > Tp# 7
< Transponder SNR =['17.48db'-Locked], LNB Power = 81.66 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:03:11 />

< 'DVB-S 11875V / 5000 / 3/4' > Tp# 8
< [19] 11875V SID 0x5014 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:5014:441:0:A30AE63:0:0:0: SNR = 18.06 />
< [20] 11875V SID 0x9c40 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 1:0:64:9C40:441:0:A30AE63:0:0:0: SNR = 18.06 />
< Transponder SNR =['18.06db'-Locked], LNB Power = 75.23 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:03:14 />

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11900V / 34285 / 5/6' > Tp# 9
< [21] BEAM_G16_W01_0067 --- UnKnown Service Type E: 1:0:E:44:43:1:A30AE7C:0:0:0: SNR = 13.22 />
< [22] NoName 1:0:0:1:43:1:A30AE7C:0:0:0: SNR = 13.22 />
< Transponder SNR =['13.22db'-Locked], LNB Power = 83.49 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:03:16 />

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11960H / 16729 / 3/4' > Tp# 10
< Transponder SNR =['13.66db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 70.65 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:03:24 />

< 'DVB-S2 16APSK 12000H / 34284 / AUTO' > Tp# 11
< [23] AND09-G16-SN02 --- UnKnown Service Type E: 1:0:E:8:7:1:A302EE0:0:0:0: SNR = 14.4 />
< [24] NoName 1:0:0:1:7:1:A302EE0:0:0:0: SNR = 14.4 />
< Transponder SNR =['14.4db'-Locked], LNB Power = 81.66 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:03:26 />

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12006V / 2757 / 3/4' > Tp# 12
< Transponder SNR =['8.61db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 64.22 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:03:45 />

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 12022V / 2275 / 3/4' > Tp# 13
< [25] 1A (Radio #1) 1:0:2:37:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [26] 1A Hour 1 (Radio #2) 1:0:2:17:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [27] 1A Hour 2 (Radio #3) 1:0:2:1B:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [28] All Things Considered (Radio #4) 1:0:2:33:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [29] BBC APM World Service (Radio #5) 1:0:2:B:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [30] BBN (Radio #6) 1:0:2:7:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [31] California Report Morning Feed (Radio #7) 1:0:2:14:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [32] California Report Morning Feed II (Radio #8) 1:0:2:1C:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [33] C-Band Barker (Radio #9) 1:0:2:2D:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [34] Classical 24 (Radio #10) 1:0:2:14A:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [35] Democracy Now 08:00 ET M-F Live w/File (Radio #11) 1:0:2:11:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [36] Fresh Air with Terry Gross (Radio #12) 1:0:2:1D:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [37] Good Karma Brands Milwaukee LLC - HUB - Brewers (Radio #13) 1:0:2:21:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [38] Good Karma Brands Milwaukee LLC - HUB - Bucs (Radio #14) 1:0:2:20:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [39] Inauguration Address of Kathy Hochul (Radio #15) 1:0:2:2E:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [40] KANZ - HUB (Radio #16) 1:0:2:3F:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [41] KEMC - Ku HUB (Radio #17) 1:0:2:3B:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [42] KNAU (Radio #18) 1:0:2:31:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [43] KOSU (Radio #19) 1:0:2:3C:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [44] KPR (Radio #20) 1:0:2:19:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [45] KPR Audio Reader (Radio #21) 1:0:2:3E:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [46] KQEDs Statewide Forum (Radio #22) 1:0:2:27:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [47] KSOS (Radio #23) 1:0:2:30:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [48] Ku-Band Barker (Radio #24) 1:0:2:45:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [49] KUFM - HUB (Radio #25) 1:0:2:D:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [50] KUNC - KuHUB (Radio #26) 1:0:2:25:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [51] KUSC - Ku HUB (Radio #27) 1:0:2:34:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [52] KUSU - Ku HUB (Radio #28) 1:0:2:28:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [53] KVPR - Ku-HUB (Radio #29) 1:0:2:22:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [54] Marketplace Morning I - 551 (Radio #30) 1:0:2:E:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [55] Marketplace Morning VI - 1051 (Radio #31) 1:0:2:18:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [56] Marketplace Morning II - 651 (Radio #32) 1:0:2:F:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [57] Marketplace Morning III - 751 (Radio #33) 1:0:2:10:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [58] Marketplace Morning IV - 851 (Radio #34) 1:0:2:13:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [59] Marketplace Morning V - 951 (Radio #35) 1:0:2:15:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [60] Marketplace (Radio #36) 1:0:2:35:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [61] Missouri Governors Debates - Live Missouri Thea (Radio #37) 1:0:2:2A:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [62] Morning Edition (Radio #38) 1:0:2:2:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [63] NPR Distribution Idle (Radio #39) 1:0:2:1BD:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [64] NNN/Native America Calling Live Wednesday 1300 (Radio #40) 1:0:2:3:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [65] NNN/Native America Calling Live Thursday 1300 (Radio #41) 1:0:2:5:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [66] NNN/Native America Calling Live Tuesday 1300 (Radio #42) 1:0:2:3A:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [67] NNN/Native America Calling ALASKA STATION FEED (Radio #43) 1:0:2:2C:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [68] NOC Tone Test (Radio #44) 1:0:2:1:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [69] NPR Newscasts (Radio #45) 1:0:2:71:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [70] NPRs Here & Now (Radio #46) 1:0:2:1E:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [71] NPR Special Events Coverage/Breaking News (Radio #47) 1:0:2:5F:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [72] NPR Squawk (Radio #48) 1:0:2:24:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [73] NWPB - NWC - NPR & Classical Music (Radio #49) 1:0:2:4:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [74] NWPB - NWN - NPR News (Radio #50) 1:0:2:47:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [75] On Point from APM (Radio #51) 1:0:2:16:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [76] Engineering Test PGM (Radio #52) 1:0:2:10B:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [77] PCC - HUB (Radio #53) 1:0:2:38:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [78] POSTPONED UNTIL TBD: Missouri Governors Debates (Radio #54) 1:0:2:2B:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [79] PubMusic PubJazz1-General (Radio #55) 1:0:2:1BC:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [80] Radio Bilingue Series (Radio #56) 1:0:2:C3:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [81] Radio Bilingue - Ku HUB (Radio #57) 1:0:2:41:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [82] Streaming System Test Tone (Radio #58) 1:0:2:1F:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [83] Texas Statewide Newscasts (Radio #59) 1:0:2:12:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [84] Texas Standard (Radio #60) 1:0:2:1A:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [85] The World (Radio #61) 1:0:2:32:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [86] The World 1800 LWSFT (Radio #62) 1:0:2:39:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [87] Today Explained Live (Radio #63) 1:0:2:2F:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [88] WAMC - Ku HUB (Radio #64) 1:0:2:8:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [89] WNRN - KuHUB (Radio #65) 1:0:2:23:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [90] WRVO-KuHUB (Radio #66) 1:0:2:40:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [91] WUAL (Radio #67) 1:0:2:6:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [92] WUNC Music - HUB (Radio #68) 1:0:2:36:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [93] WUNC News - HUB (Radio #69) 1:0:2:3D:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [94] WVPB (Radio #70) 1:0:2:9:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< [95] YESFM - Ku HUB (Radio #71) 1:0:2:29:1:4:A30AEF6:0:0:0: SNR = 9.97 />
< Transponder SNR =['9.94db'-Locked], LNB Power = 63.31 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:03:51 />

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12064H / 1160 / 3/4' > Tp# 14
< Transponder SNR =['12.96db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 66.98 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:04:09 />

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12065H / 1493 / 3/4' > Tp# 15
< Transponder SNR =['10.91db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 66.98 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:04:28 />

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12085H / 2000 / 3/4' > Tp# 16
< Transponder SNR =['11.84db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 65.14 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:04:46 />

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 12096H / 3676 / 4/5' > Tp# 17
< [96] 12096H SID 0x01 1:0:1:1:0:0:A302F40:0:0:0: SNR = 7.29 />
< Transponder SNR =['7.29db'-Locked], LNB Power = 68.81 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:04:51 />

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12120H / 16727 / 3/4' > Tp# 18
< Transponder SNR =['15.79db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 83.49 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:04:59 />

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 12140V / 29999 / 3/4' > Tp# 19
< [97] HD01 1:0:1:3:1:1:A30AF6C:0:0:0: SNR = 14.07 />
< [98] HD02 1:0:1:4:1:1:A30AF6C:0:0:0: SNR = 14.07 />
< [99] HD03 1:0:1:5:1:1:A30AF6C:0:0:0: SNR = 14.07 />
< [100] HD06 1:0:1:6:1:1:A30AF6C:0:0:0: SNR = 14.07 />
< [101] SD02 Create 1:0:1:C:1:1:A30AF6C:0:0:0: SNR = 14.07 />
< [102] FNX SD08 1:0:1:F:1:1:A30AF6C:0:0:0: SNR = 14.07 />
< [103] SD04 World 1:0:1:E:1:1:A30AF6C:0:0:0: SNR = 14.07 />
< Transponder SNR =['14.07db'-Locked], LNB Power = 88.08 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:05:01 />

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 12166V / 5000 / 1/2' > Tp# 20
< Transponder SNR =['13.61db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 86.24 >
< Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:05:20 /> <

Blind Scan Time = 5 Min. 23 Sec.
103 Channels ( TV = 32 Radio = 71) 20 of 20 Transponders Scanned.

[ArloG]

Good stuff.
I was referring to satellite charts and what you can find from sources like SES for the transponder configurations. Of course things change. But just like any broadcaster. I would believe if they state three thousand ninety megaherts and a sr of 30000 with a fec of..... you probably can count on it being pretty much dead nuts.
A ground based receiver on the other hand showing slightly different or wavering signal characteristics. I blame it on the stuff here.
Doppler. On a geostationary satellite. i dunno. Definitely for LEO and ham sats. Snag the ISS some time and listen to the whistle on SSB. Or any ham sat. NOAA 137 MHz sats.

If I get it correctly. And I know little of Linux. That all receivers using the same chipsets that the SF8008 uses. Are running a dated kernel?
And that perhaps there are some tricks up sleeves that could enhance the performance and capabilities by using a more modern one?
Meaning that to update the kernel, the entire OS and drivers, plugins need to be rewritten?
Such as your dreaded useless bluetooth. A newer kernel would allow a different bluetooth stack and perhaps let you use a soundbar, earphones?
I mean. Sitting in my chair. I wouldn't know a different Linux kernel from shineola.

[el bandido]

Satellite frequencies posted by the broadcaster or anyone else formally associated with the satellite industry are probably accurate. Satellite frequencies from TVROSAT, Lyngsat, or similar are probably not accurate.

The Linux kernel could be thought of as the operating system. A few examples of kernel functions would be: memory usage, manage cpu processes, assist with device drivers, and security. What we want to do mainly with a satellite FTA receiver is watch tv. This means we need the motorized satellite dish to move precisely where we want it to move, and any switches in the antenna system to switch when they are supposed to. Enigma2 provides the basics for the FTA receiver to function as a FTA receiver. A FTA receiver can run Linux without enigma2, but enigma2 cannot run without Linux.

Older kernels work for the basic FTA receiver functions, but the older kernels may not be able to support new features or addons. FTA receiver manufacturers don't update the kernel because they are either too lazy to do it, or they don't want to pay someone to do it. This explains why the shiny new SF8008 Supreme has the same kernel as the older SF8008.

A FTA enigma2 receiver is sort of put together like this: Bootloader, Linux Operating System, and Enigma2. You can botch or corrupt enigma2 and fix it by loading the needed files.You can botch or corrupt the Linux OS and reload the image to fix that mistake. But if you somehow manage to corrupt or destroy the bootloader, then you have created a problem that most users cannot recover from.

The Sf8008 Supreme bootloader seems to be the same as the older SF8808 bootloader. I managed to delete the Linux operating system and pretty much erased all 4 slots in the process by pressing one keyboard key named "Enter". The bootloader allowed a recovery image to be loaded and shortly all was fine again. But you have had a bad day if you manage to destroy, disable, or damage the bootloader. Long story short: It is nice to have all 4 slots in the receiver mounted in one folder. Just be sure to Not Delete that folder...

[eastof111]

I wonder if this is a Weigel hiccup showing a scramble symbol or the Supreme just got confused?

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[el bandido]

Check your channels. Some of them are showing ECM.

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[el bandido]

Googled SF8008 Supreme and came up with this:
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And of course, Rick is advertising the low symbol rate capability which the receiver Does Not Have now and probably never will. So either Rick does not test his products or he does not care. Either way, the result is the same: We are being told a LIE! Octagon Knows the Supreme cannot handle low symbol rates. They have known it for months... The LIE continues. It is possible the low symbol rate could be adjusted somewhat. But I doubt it ever goes down to 100. Avalink just doesn't seem to support that. We will see...

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[eastof111]

Probably if he didn't advertise the company specs, Octagon would have branded him as an uncooperative reseller. Lately, it seems you have to go with the flow in order to survive, or maybe not..... lol

[ArloG]

I'm guessing you've seen the tidbits listed here:

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[eastof111]

Looks like WOS is going to stock them also. Next Monday's pre-order price is £120.95 or at current USD =152.84 less shipping.

[el bandido]

Subtract 20 Sterling Pounds from that price as we are not supposed to pay VAT. Anyway, it is sort of moot point because WOS will not sell to North America unless they have recently changed their policy.

[eastof111]

Seems they have changed their policy or they have not updated their cart. Minus VAT plus shipping to U.S. comes out to £129.95 or 164.22 at current USD. But, obviously the prices will go up after the pre-order expires. The same SR advertising specs are being displayed.

[el bandido]

16APSK 4/5 FEC feed is up on 103wKu. The Supreme plays these feeds without error, providing there is enough signal. The tv picture is respectable too.

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[el bandido]

A little more investigating was done this evening, and now everything about the Supreme makes sense. More or less, The Sf8008 Supreme is an Edision 4K! Here is why:

First, this is what is advertised on Octagon's website for the SF8008 Supreme:
SPECIAL OWN FEATURES:
– DUAL OS: E2 Linux OS operating system & OCTAGON Define Linux OS
– DVB-S2X 4K UHD & Multistream (T2-MI Direct input)
– Symbol rates of 100 – 80,000 SR
Both symbol rates of 100 and 80,000 are fiction and can be proved as such. Let's look at something else first.

Octagon's description for the Sf8008 Supreme:
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Okay. So Octagon says the Supreme has a new tuner and new demodulator.
Here are the listed SF8008 Supreme tuner specs from Octagon's website:
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Octagon has the description listed backwards. The demodulator would be AVL, but it is not AVL62X1, except maybe in a technical sense.

Here is Octagon's SF8008 description from their website:
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Okay...Now remember earlier the Supreme was supposed to have a new tuner and demodulator? Why then do they list the tuner( RDA5815m) as being the same for both the SF8008 and the SF8008 Supreme? My guess is they are the same, but it is sort of difficult to properly id the tuner.

But the demodulator, We can properly id it. To id the demodulator, the cover of the SF8008 Supreme has to be removed, then the card reader has to be either removed or cut out of the receiver. The demodulator chip is hidden under the card reader and cannot be seen unless the card reader is removed.

Here is the SF8008 Supreme demodulator chip:
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IMO, setting the id to AVL62X1 in the receiver was nothing more than an attempt to hide the AVL6261. So really the demodulator for the SF8008 Supreme is AVL6261C, Not 626X1.

Let's look a little more...

Here is the Edision OS MIO 4k+ demodulator chip:
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A bit harder to see, but the Edision also has AVL6261C!

Now the Avalink specs for AVL6261C:
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So the real specs for the SF8008 Supreme on symbol rate is 1,000 to 60,000. This is nowhere near 100 to 80,000 that Octagon is claiming for the SF8008 Supreme. Yes, we have modified the MIO receivers so they receive a symbol rate down to around 500. But the satellite blindscan slows way down when you do this.

Can the AVL6261C be modded to go down to 100 in symbol rate? I seriously doubt it. The Supreme is still a good receiver, but there is no reason for Octagon to outright lie like this. it will be interesting to see what others think when they buy this receiver and find the low symbol rates are fiction. (I am sure Rick's boyz will be happy!) In a nutshell, The SF8008 Supreme is an Edision 4K when it comes to satellite reception.

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[ArloG]

What should happen? How it should happen? The terminology. Any fixes? Whoosh!......right over my head.
What is your opinions on these things? Do they have anything to do with anything?
Without going back to school what is long and short frame and does it apply to the issues?
Questions man, questions.

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Edit:

And this too

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[el bandido]

What should happen? How it should happen? The terminology. Any fixes? Whoosh!......right over my head.
What is your opinions on these things? Do they have anything to do with anything?
Without going back to school what is long and short frame and does it apply to the issues?
Questions man, questions.

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Edit:

And this too

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Do they have anything to do with anything? :D

Really I have no good idea of what you are asking. Transponders in Europe are transponders in Europe. We cannot receive the European transponders, so why worry with their problems? DVB-S is DVB-S so the same or similar situation can apply to us, but not today!

As for long frame or short frame in DVB-S satellite, information about this is on the internet. As for the link to the Avalink conversations and files, they do not apply to the SF8008 Supreme because the Supreme system file structure is different. You cannot for example load the Avalink 62X1 firmware file in the Supreme receiver with ease as it does not reside in /lib/firmware in the Supreme's system files.

[el bandido]

Most likely, the SI 2166-D Or SI2166D demodulator chip was not used in the SF8008 Supreme because it is no longer available in an amount large enough for a production run. FTA receivers are manufactured for several different vendors at one time. There are versions of the SF8008 Supreme named uClan and I think GigaBlue. FTA receivers are manufactured in the same manner as cheap Vodkas where you do nothing but stop the assembly line and change labels. Then each vendor will put his bootloader and a few other items in the receiver to make it a bit different.

Avalink made some AVL62X1 items public where anyone can build them. There are a couple of custom built AVL6261 drivers in the TNAP feeds for the current Edision 4K receivers. One customized driver made for Europe goes "out of band" and allows reception down to around 700MHz. Normal reception is around 950-2150MHz for a satellite receiver.

Shown below is a comparison of blindscans between the Edision MIO4K and the SF8008 Supreme. The MIO4K with the modded driver finds transponders in the 600-800 symbol rate range and scans their radio channels. The SF8008 Supreme doesn't even know these transponders exist! The SF8008 Supreme will at times scan these transponders in the 600-800 symbol rate range correctly if they are entered manually. But even with manual entry, the SF8008 Supreme is not consistent with transponders in the 600-800 symbol rate range.

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Here is what the Edision modded driver looks like in the feeds:
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I don't see it getting any better than what the modded MIO can produce for the SF8008 Supreme. These two blindscans don't tell us which is the better receiver because blindscan in general is not predictable. But what these two blindscans do tell us is the MIO can find and resolve transponders in the 600 symbol rate range, but the Edision cannot.

The blindscan slows down and to a degree the ServiceScan seems to slow down when using the modded Avalink 6261 driver in the MIO. We can expect similar if the SF8008 Supreme is modded. I plan to keep the current drivers the Supreme has now if any future drivers are released because they may make things worse instead of making them better.

Blindscan logs of the two scans shown above are attached.

[el bandido]

Over 400 scans have been done on the SF8008 Supreme. Most of these scans were satellite blindscan. At times, blindscan will hang, fail to start or fail to complete. There is no rhyme or reason for the blindscan failures: They just happen at random times. My conclusion is blindscan is more similar to the Edision MIO 4K's than the SF8008. We will just have to wait and see if it is improved.

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[ArloG]

Do they have anything to do with anything? :D

Really I have no good idea of what you are asking. Transponders in Europe are transponders in Europe. We cannot receive the European transponders, so why worry with their problems? DVB-S is DVB-S so the same or similar situation can apply to us, but not today!

People in Europe commonly peek at our most eastern satellites that have a footprint which allows them to have at least fringe reception..
The DVB-S, DVB-S2, etc. standards state nothing is different for any continent, region. They are supposedly set in stone standards.
In essence if we were able to receive European transponders nothing special would be needed to do it.
We need a frequency. We need the symbol rate. And the FEC. Modulated or not, if the transponder in space is active. You should get a received signal and lock. Yes?
Take Smithsonian on 127W. It has been active but no video. audio content for a long time. At least from what I can tell from analyzing the signal.
So. Without any ambiguity or confusion. I have not found any tech. that says the standards for us is different than theirs.

Line scan displays and audio frequencies picked out of a portion of the transmission bandwidth are obsolete. NTSC. PAL, CCIR [I]might still[I]be used. Beyond me.
But I do know that the receivers used here are the same as every place. Power supplies an exception. You can take your USA Playstation 2 overseas and now that you can play games just fine. Region lock an exception. Something a VPN can fix in a jif.

As for long frame or short frame in DVB-S satellite, information about this is on the internet. As for the link to the Avalink conversations and files, they do not apply to the SF8008 Supreme because the Supreme system file structure is different. You cannot for example load the Avalink 62X1 firmware file in the Supreme receiver with ease as it does not reside in /lib/firmware in the Supreme's system files.


What is interesting to discover is the amateur satellite QO-100 has a DVB-S2 transponder and folks are posting being able to receive it with a symbol rate of 333.
Some mention 333. With the SF8008. Recently.
From the git and links I posted. git looks like the SF8008 drivers are being addressed and updated 2 months ago.
The Octagon forum. It appears as if users are identifying the symbol rate issue. And bringing up the advertised vs actual symbol rate issue.
You're right. Extracting an openpli image shows drivers for the tuner that seems to be tailored for the MPU. Searching for .ko files gives hints that -this must be it-. Opening the file shows that it is the tuner driver.


Sorry. Not familiar with long or short frame. Heck I looked at a satellites.xml file and sure enough. At the end of a line entry there is long and short.
It's been awhile but I didn't know that the .xml file formatting had been changed or updated. Then again. One day multistream popped up in it.

With all of the griping going on about the Octagon I just thought that if folks are not aware that there may be updates. Or a different 'nightly' image that at least experimentally addresses the sr issues. Figured it might open up some eyes. Sorry for that. I ain't even sure if the only image people are using is openatv or what. Tell me please.

It's just that looking at the back and forth chatter going on at least in the Octagon forum. There is interest in addressing the issue and what happened to cause it. Maybe even active fixes coming soon.

[el bandido]

Thanks Arlo.
SF8008 and SF8008 Supreme use the same driver files. Sf8008 Drivers were updated in recent months to include the SF8008 Supreme. Nothing more than that.

OE Alliance meta-Octagon commits (OpenATV, OpenVix, OpenEhight...etc):
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OpenPli meta-Octagon commits:
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If anything happens with drivers, it will show up in one or both of those links.

[el bandido]

Here is a partial result of a blindscan of 89w c band that returns transponders with little to no signal(UnLocked):
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89w-C band is a feed satellite, and currently does not have a full time 24 hour transponder that I can find. It would be nice to have some sort of idea as to how strong the satellite signal is before a blindscan is done, so these scanned transponders shown above were installed in the satellites.xml for 89w-c band location.

Here is what the result is in the blindscan plugin:
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The c band satellite dish is 12 foot by ruler, but the signals are so strong on 91w that they are still readable at 89w! All of the transponders shown in the first screenshot belong to 89w even though they are being found in a blindscan of 89w.

Here is 91w in the blindscan plugin:
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Having signal below lock active takes some a bit of time to understand. Turn signal below lock Off and you will not see a signal for these 89w transponders in the blindscan plugin, but they are still found in a blindscan of 89w --even with signal below lock set to off.

[el bandido]

The scan results are a bit different when comparing the SF8008 and the SF8008 Supreme. The SF8008 can lock transponder signals with low symbol rates in the 200-300 range, or maybe lower if a person has the correct equipment. The SF8008 does not find transponders much lower than a 800 symbol rate for me in blindscan. Blindscanning for low symbol rates takes time. The SF8008 has a slow blindscan when compared to some other receiver combinations, so whoever was working on the SF8008 blindscan probably did not want to make it any slower by looking for transponders with a symbol rate below 800.

Satellite blindscan in general is a bit more defined, Or it just works better when the AVL6261C is involved. A couple of blindscan examples were made today between the SF8008 and the SF8008 Supreme. Comparisons with these two receivers have been done before, but the exact same antenna coax or feed was used. Today's blindscans were done with the two Sf8008's sitting where they normally stay, and are being fed into the same satellite dish using a multiswitch. The blindscans were started at almost the exact same time.

SF8008 and SF8008 Supreme 117w Blindscan:
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SF8008 and SF8008 Supreme 61w Blindscan:
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Things are a bit different here. The SF8008 Supreme finds more tv channels on 117w and takes less time to complete the scan process when compared to the SF8008. The SF8008 Did find the transponder with the 833 symbol rate and also found the radio channels on this transponder.


A blindscan of 61w is different than the 117w scan and shows the slowness of the SF8008. 61 West is a very "Noisy" location for satellite signals and this is easily seen on a spectrum analyzer. The SF8008 Supreme finds several transponders in the extended band above 4200 MHz while the SF8008 does not find anything above 4200 MHz. The logs show Both receivers were set to 3625-4800 MHz in the blindscan plugin so they both should have equal chance with the transponders above 4200 MHz.

Complete blindscan logs for these 4 scans are attached.

[el bandido]

The Ustym 4K PRO Ultimate 2024 v4 is pretty much an identical build to the SF8008 Supreme except for cosmetics.

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

AVL62X1 driver modules were taken from a Ustym4kpro build and installed into the SF8008 Supreme. Blindscan and reception results were unchanged. (Note the receiver name change.)
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[eastof111]

A better name for the receiver would have been the Chameleon Supreme... lol

[el bandido]

To be fair, The producer of the box set the tuner information. The Uclan and the SF8008 Supreme display the exact same tuner information as shown below. I don't believe Octagon owns Uclan and GigaBlue.

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Sort of reminds me of the lnb thing where the noise figures were advertised as .8 then they dropped all the way down to an impossible .1NF. Consumer FTA products can have anything and everything written on it. No laboratory tests are made for compliance.

To be fair again, Uclan Did Not write symbol rates that are fiction in their advertisements...Least not any that I saw. Uclan showed a touch of class when compared to Octagon.

[el bandido]

A better name for the receiver would have been the Chameleon Supreme... lol

Online update including Blindscan is available. Use Software update in the receiver's menus or in terminal: opkg update && opkg upgrade

[eastof111]

EB... HEVC on 133 c band. I guess I will need to tweak or upgrade the old lnbf in order to lock in HEVC channels. How's your reception on this one?

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[el bandido]

The transponder seems to be 16APSK with 2/3 FEC. HEVC Is not a problem with the Supreme. What you don't see is the errors in bit rate. or other errors in making the picture. Your receiver shows to have plenty of signal. Could 5G be the problem?

Maybe check the dish alignment in Positioner setup? The auto focus feature in Positioner setup makes a log file. The log file shows signal lock and signal in db for every move. It may be nothing more than an alignment problem. The slate channel plays here with roughly the same signal. Check alignment first IMO as it does not cost anything.

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A positionersetup log for this satellite is attached if you want to look at it. If everything is OK, then both sides will read almost identical for a given position east and west. The best signal should be on a bit of a plateau for an equal number of position counts in each direction. Then the numbers start falling. Everything should be pretty much even on both sides till lock is lost.

[ArloG]

Ricks has a post of possible AAC issues that a chinabox handles well. Any insight on this and other formats?

[el bandido]

Ricks has a post of possible AAC issues that a chinabox handles well. Any insight on this and other formats?

I have no clue.

Where is a SF8008 Supreme thread at Rick's saying the SF8008 Supreme has (ANY) issues? About the only thing posted at Rick's is feeds. Almost everything else either gets deleted or edited.

You can't check or test something without knowing what you are looking for.

[ArloG]

Sorry. Thought you're taking it through the wringer. I trust your findings and opinions before committing to grab one.

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[el bandido]

The SF8008 Is Not Identical to the SF8008 Supreme. Your linked thread is about SF8008.

To go a bit further:
105w has over 1000 radio listings and at times has had 2-3 thousand radio listings. Some of these radio listings are active 24/7, but most are not. Actually, most of these listings are audio feeds. The audio channels are in more than one format and include AAC.

Most FTA receivers made in the past ten years have AAC audio capability. For some reason, someone decided the channels that should play on 105w, but would not play were all AAC audio. So it was decided the problem was AAC. NONE of this is True!

Some of the audio channels on 105w were examined years ago by a developer when work was being done on Edision receivers. It was concluded that AAC was not the problem because some other types of audio Besides AAC would not play. Some fta receivers that would not play the AAC audio on 105w could play AAC audio on other satellites/transponders.

The real problem on 105w with the radio channels is the way they are presented to the receiver. Some fta receivers can play the radio channels on 105w and some can't. A solution on how to fix it was not found by the developer that checked it.

Octagon seems to be nothing but a distributor. They buy fta receivers in bulk and resell them. I don't think Octagon has any "In House" developers because every time something has been broken in the past, someone else besides Octagon fixed it. The low symbol rate thingy in the SF8008 Supreme is a perfect example of Octagon not being able to fix something. If/when the low symbol rate problem is fixed, I expect you will also magically see it fixed in other similar receiver brands too.

Anyway, there is a White Sox game tonight. We will see if the feed in your linked thread becomes active.

[el bandido]

105W-4170-4074-Vertical-APID-5413 Is active.
Service Name = Chicago White Sox
The receivers I have checked to see if this audio channel will play are:
Octagon SF8008 = Yes
Octagon SF8008 Supreme = Yes
Edision MIO 4K = Yes.


No worries though. Octagon will be asked to fix something that works! ( They weren't going to do anything about it anyway. )

Hi Jim,

Thanks for pulling out the thread Photoman76!

I'll ask Octagon about it again.

Rick

To be fair, The White Sox audio channel may not play in the Octagon using Define image. And to be fair again, SF8008 drivers were updated to include the Supreme in the first month of 2024. Still though, someone should check to see if the SF8008 worked. Rick seems more interested in selling receivers than getting them to work properly. Can't really blame him. $$$

[ArloG]

Would it have to do with the term ACM/VCM?
Where other receivers back when the mio4k was released could not receive the radio channels. The mio did it with flying colors.
How was the game?

[el bandido]

ACM and VCM are modes (Read Link)
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The audio channels on 105w c band and also the audio of some of the ku satellites has been a problem in some fta receivers for years. Both MPEG and AAC audios have given problems on 105w c band. There has always been something that could not be received or would not play on a given fta receiver.

Dunno about the game as I did not listen to it or watch it. But the White Sox audio definitely works on the Sf8008 Supreme and SF8008 using TNAP5.1 images.

[el bandido]

Octagon has their own image or firmware or operating system called Define. Define in simple terms seems to be an antique enigma2 image that has been updated somewhat. Regardless of what it is, Define is a stripped version for a FTA receiver and cannot handle more than one satellite tuner. This means the Supreme can only use One tuner when running the Define operating system.

Octagon's Define does have some Plugins or apps that may be useful to someone. For my uses though Define is a junk system only worthy of a passing glance. My personal preference is a FTA receiver to be a FTA receiver, and Not some half-baked media box alongside a poor performing FTA system which to me is what Define is.

Here are some Define Menus:
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[el bandido]

I have been examining FTA operating systems, firmware's, images, or whatever else you want to call them for over 20 years. I find it interesting as to how things are put together both in software and hardware. So it is a given that this Define operating system would be examined.

The file structure for Define is similar to TNAP5.1 enigma2 or really any current enigma2 image. Except the Define operating system is stripped with many things missing or set to run automatically. Part of the user data, or some things we would expect to find in /etc/enigma2 is shown here:

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And of course Dual satellite.xml files
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The Octagon Define has pretty much everything you would find in a cheap fta satellite box. The satellites.xml has not been updated in years as can be seen by looking at the c band transponder frequencies. No surprises here.

[el bandido]

Digging a little deeper, we find the Octagon Define is a hacker system, complete with key files!

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Keys....Keys....Keys... I wonder what Mr. Rick Caylor has been doing with those keys???? Hmmm...

In all fairness, this Supreme FTA receiver did not come from Rick Caylor, but this Define system was loaded from recovery menu in the receiver. So what he sells can have the same thing if it is not installed already.

I am always amazed at what can be found when digging through FTA satellite System files.

This completes my tour of the Octagon Define ---eh Whatever you want to call it. The Define slot 3 will be emptied as I have no need for such a system. Dual tuners, but Define only allows one...etc...etc. Comical stuff though.

[ArloG]

What images are pre installed?
The file system of an E2 receiver can be fun to ponder. Looking through the Python files and making occasional changes to pee around. Learning that a new one is created after doing so.
With a full backup of a working and stable system. No harm, no foul.
Discovering bells and whistles here and there. Kind of diversifies watching people circling a rock and monotonic book readers mumbling stuff you'll never understand nor desire to. Right!

[el bandido]

What images are pre installed?
The file system of an E2 receiver can be fun to ponder. Looking through the Python files and making occasional changes to pee around. Learning that a new one is created after doing so.
With a full backup of a working and stable system. No harm, no foul.
Discovering bells and whistles here and there. Kind of diversifies watching people circling a rock and monotonic book readers mumbling stuff you'll never understand nor desire to. Right!

Almost every enigma2 receiver you get will be shipped with OpenATV. Very few exceptions to this.

You can expect to have your Octagon SF8008 Supreme shipped with OpenATV image and also the Define thingy installed.

IMO, the Define operating system turns the receiver into a cheap China Box. The layout is the same.

[eastof111]

A new one for me... I was checking recordings in the play list to delete the ones that were not needed. I selected each recording and advanced the player by touching the number 9 button many times. Stopped the recording and touched red button to delete it. I continued this procedure for five recordings. On the last selected recording, after pressing the 9 button the screen froze.

I waited a few minutes before thinking of doing a reboot or cold boot. Waited a few more minutes and the receiver came back to life and displayed the media/usb
directory, but the movie sub-directory was missing. Did a putty reboot and still no movie directory. Did a backupsuite good tnap restore and still no movie directory.

Multibooted to ATV and hit the playlist button and it showed no recordings available in the movie directory. Checked the trash and .trash directories and they were also empty. But at least the movie sub-directory was back.

Used the atv system menu to flash tnap-5.1-sf8008-0240322_multiboot.zip into its original slot 3 and rebooted. Did the necessary setup routine and used backupsuite to restore the good tnap image. After the reboot checked the playlist and it was empty, but the movie directory was back.

Do you know of any commands in putty to recover items in the movie directory or any plugin that can recover deleted items? I really don't want to remove the ssd and plug it into win10 to use a third party program to do a recover. Since nothing has been written to the ssd yet, I am pretty sure the movies might be recoverable.

[el bandido]

Have you mounted the 4 slots and checked the lost+found folder?

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[eastof111]

All slots were empty.... learned a valuable lesson though.... don't push the 9 button continuously and very fast to advance the recording or the receiver will get ticked off and wipe out the movie directory..... LOL

[el bandido]

The different enigma2 images that I have tested perform similar on the SF8008 Supreme. Some enigma2 images will have features that other images do not have, but for the most part, they all perform the same.

Blindscan or Scanning in general is an area where the outcome or performance can vary in enigma2 images. A scan comparison test of TNAP-5.1, OpneVix, and OpenATV has been done, and the results are similar except for the scan time. Scan tests were done 117w C and Ku bands. All 3 images were given the same Service Scan files to make things even. The blindscan plugin in OpenVix and OpenATV was modified for scan reports.

[el bandido]

TNAP-5.1 Scan Times:
117w-C band -Blind Scan Time = 6 Min. 11 Sec.
245 Channels ( TV = 240 Radio = 5) 69 of 69 Transponders Scanned.

117w-Ku Band - Blind Scan Time = 7 Min. 52 Sec.
313 Channels ( TV = 280 Radio = 33) 32 of 32 Transponders Scanned.

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Scan results are attached.

[el bandido]

OpenVix Scan Times:
117w-C band - Blind Scan Time = 5 Min. 58 Sec.
244 Channels ( TV = 239 Radio = 5) 68 of 68 Transponders Scanned.

117w-Ku Band - Blind Scan Time = 8 Min. 43 Sec.
311 Channels ( TV = 278 Radio = 33) 32 of 32 Transponders Scanned.

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Scan results are attached.

[el bandido]

OpenAtv Scan Times:
117w-C band - Blind Scan Time = 18 Min. 23 Sec.
244 Channels ( TV = 239 Radio = 5) 68 of 68 Transponders Scanned.

117w-Ku Band - Blind Scan Time = 10 Min. 02 Sec.
313 Channels ( TV = 280 Radio = 33) 34 of 34 Transponders Scanned.

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[el bandido]

After seeing these results, I can only wonder WHY Rick Caylor advertises loading the SF8008 Supreme with OpenATV image for use in North America. FTA in North America requires a fast scanning receiver if you want to watch feeds.
OpenATV is Slow when it comes to scanning. And for icing on the cake, Rick claims to load the Designed-For-Hacking Define Operating system in another slot. I guess you need a hacking receiver to open all of those encrypted feeds that are meticulously posted.

It is what it is...:hhh:

[ArloG]

You gotta' say one thing about OpenATV. Awesome out of box experience. I think stepping back a few is in order.
Performance issues like scanning. Initial setup similar for all E2 images. But one thing is for sure.
If you have a receiver with ATV running and slap the remote control next to your TV remote. There is little to no learning how to navigate through the array of buttons to get the most simple and straight forward things to happen.
Not everyone jumping into the FTA thing will have had 17 receivers or tried the mess of E2 image incantations. I think "somebody" is missing that.
The Germans are smart. And ergonomic.
OpenATV gives you that. Performance issues aside. And bells and whistles. I believe that they still shun the main one thing that makes satellite TV fulfilling.
Although it might appear that someone has perhaps made their own version of the ATV image. Maybe. I don't think it's that big of a deal.

Here in the CONUS. For us at least. Blind scanning is important. Not so much for a noob maybe. I stick every single blindscan result that has new transponders in my satellites.xml file.
And almost immediately when trying a new image. A backup of it gets stuck in tuxbox. And any other file system location that may contain it.
Why in the heck spend all of that time doing a repeat blindscan when you do try or happen to use ViX, TNAP.....? Well?

And since the subject was ATV. Being out of box friendly. A dude in another site was touting PureE2. ViX is my every day image now. I like it. The other 3 slots are loaded with.....
OpenATV 7-something, TNAP-whenever-I-used-it-last, and nothing. Blank.

If an E2 image has me hunting for buttons. Hitting Help for a keymap layout (ViX kinda' dropped the ball). If I may be so blunt. It gets shitcanned.
You know what is missing from PureE2? A rusty coathanger. You make what you want of that one.
Complicated Kodi-ish clone. And the touter of it ranting that you have to "learn it and forget what you've used".
BS. If I turn on der hot vasser. I vant hot vasser. Not a Heineken that's been in the sun for a week. Channel UP should give you the next channel up. Not a headache.
Punching Video better not give me Ren and Stimpy reruns.
The bin.

Christ. A Sony in the living room. A Visio in the bedroom. An old DLP with a color wheel-a-spinnin' in the garage. Turn it on. Choose a channel (easily and the same on each single one). And hopefully you catch the very, VERY tail end of the Taylor Swift halftime show on the game. On purpose!
Lol!!
Kirk out.

[eastof111]

After seeing these results, I can only wonder WHY Rick Caylor advertises loading the SF8008 Supreme with OpenATV image for use in North America. FTA in North America requires a fast scanning receiver if you want to watch feeds.
OpenATV is Slow when it comes to scanning. And for icing on the cake, Rick claims to load the Designed-For-Hacking Define Operating system in another slot. I guess you need a hacking receiver to open all of those encrypted feeds that are meticulously posted.

It is what it is...:hhh:

Probably the Define image is used to help the folks that have yet to be comfortable with enigma images. Not knowing or caring what is under the hood of the image makes it easier for the non-enigma users to experience fta.

[el bandido]

There is a group of people that will have problems with any fta receiver. I can understand having a simple operating system for someone to use, and can also understand having a simple operating system with media features.

What I don't understand is why someone who had to testify in court about SonicView satellite piracy would want to have a hacking system installed on the receivers they sell. Couple the hacking system you sell in the fta receiver with the fact that you run a forum that posts almost exclusively about encrypted feeds and you have a recipe for another court appearance. Most likely, nothing would happen, but it doesn't look good either.

It is what it is....:buttrock:

[el bandido]

AAC-HE audio plays correctly for me in the SF8008 Supreme.

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Attempts to fix the low symbol rate in the SF8008 Supreme are being made. There have been three hi-dvb.ko test drivers as of today, and none of them come close to the advertised symbol rate of 100. As previously mentioned, it has been shown the SF8008 Supreme has Avalink AVL6261C demodulator which is identical to the Edision MIO 4k demodulators. Personally, I think tjis is a wasted effort, but the SF8008 Supreme should work as advertised.

It seems whoever is making these test drivers has no way to check them, so the drivers are released to the FTA community for testing. All of this should have been done before the Supreme was released to the public, or a more modest and realistic low symbol rate of 1000 should have been advertised. Regardless, maybe some progress can be made in the low symbol rate area.

You can highlight the tuner in the receiver menus and get tuner information. What is shown as tuner information should reflect on what the receiver is capable of and not what you wish it could do.

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Driver thread Link:
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[eastof111]

Flashed to version 04-25-2024 and the (2-3 second) "tune failed" display when zapping channels disappeared in c band. Now the channel displays almost instantaneously. Great! But later returns and continues to slow down while using the receiver.

Can't say the same for ku band. When zapping channels on ku the display will freeze for about 3 to 4 seconds before the video displays. Sometimes up to 30 seconds. This happens on the same mux.

Example... Changing from 87 ku to 99 ku the screen freezes for about 30 seconds before the sat icon appears to inform of movement.

Switching back from a ku channel to a c band channel, the "tune failed" display is back for about 3 seconds. And sometimes the video will not display till 15 seconds or more. This happens on the same mux.

Also, during the setup wizard and do you want to install a channel list.....
if you select yes, the green screen appears and you have to go through the setup wizard procedure again and then select no or you will initiate the green screen loop.

Restored to 03-10-2024 version.

[el bandido]

Flash the 0426 image as time permits. It should run "Normal". Thanks.

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Flashed 04-26-2024....

Setup wizard is back to normal. Setup 101 C on tuner A and 99 ku on tuner B.
Did a manual scan on 101 c band - finished in 0.43 secs. and found 145 channels.
Did a manual scan on 99 ku band - finished in 2 min. 59 sec. and found 20 channels.

Deleted all channels from sats and rebooted.

Did a blindscan on 101 c band - found 13 xpdrs in 0.43 secs. and found 145 channels in 1 min. 0.35 secs.
Did a blindscan on 99 ku band - found 23 xpdrs in 1 min. 0.51 secs. and found 101 channels (tv = 19 + radio = 82) in 5 min. 0.45 secs.

Initial zapping in c and ku band is fast and also back and forth between c and ku bands plus no problems with rc response.

To avoid further setup of sat configs and blind scanning I copied (init 4) nims from 03-22-2024 settings file and corresponding lambedb to 04-26-2024 and rebooted.

Zapping starts to produce a slow down of display and rc key functions. At times it slows down up to 10 to 15 seconds of display freezing and yet randomly sometimes the zapping speed returns to a normal fast display. This happens on both c and ku bands either on the same mux or not.

Restored 04-26-2024 back to original 101 c and 99 ku setup and there is no problem with delayed screen or rc control response.

[el bandido]

I say there is something not exactly right with the Supreme. I don't think the image is doing all of those tricks by itself. Maybe before my lifetime ends I will figure out why it slows down. And blindscan hangs both command line and when using the Plugin. Octagon is making efforts to improve the satellite dvb driver.

Anyway, if you have anymore TNAP images problems, please post them in the the thread for the image. I will see about getting us a different image such as modified VIX to test and see if the same problems exist.

[eastof111]

"I don't think the image is doing all of those tricks by itself"

I don't believe so either... sometimes this receiver will do quirky things that I cannot replicate.

Thanks for your work.