GEOSATpro C2 Phase Lock Loop LNBF Test

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01-26-2015, 09:44 PM
el bandido

GEOSATpro C2 Phase Lock Loop LNBF Test

I expect to put up another c band dish sometime this spring, and I decided to purchase a Geosat C2 pll lnb for use on this new dish antenna. The Geosat C2 lnb was chosen for this dish project because I needed a dual lnb with a warranty. It will be a few more weeks before this new dish system is installed, so I decided to mount the Geosat C2 on my main c band dish and see how it performs.

I found the Geosat C2 lnb to be light in weight which allows for easier mounting when compared to the heavier Titanium pll lnb. The useless heat sink for the Titanium lnb weighs almost half as much as the entire Goesat C2 lnb. The extra weight of the useless Titanium heat sink also makes the lnb unbalanced in the feed horn or scalar ring.

My first impressions of receiving satellite signals with the Geost C2 lnb are very good. The Geosat C2 seems to perform very well, and may be a bit better than my Pauxis lnb which is not a pll type of lnb. The Geosat C2 will be allowed to stay on the dish for awhile so I can make sure that it is adjusted for maximum signal. Then I will test the performance of the Geosat C2 against my Pauxis dro lnb, and if possible, against the Titanium C2 pll lnb.

The Geosat C2 pll lnb weighs only 7 ounces. I think this lnb weighs the least of any dual c band lnbf that I have installed. Light weight means less tension or torque is needed for the feed horn or scalar ring screws. Light weight also allows for an overall easier installation. EB
01-27-2015, 02:25 PM
Costactc

Looking forward to your future reviews for this lnbf, I might change my psi x2 this Spring. The esx242 is also extremely light.
01-29-2015, 09:01 PM
el bandido

To establish some base reference, here is a scan of 55.5West using the Titanium C2 PLL lnb about 3 months ago.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>  <SAT>
<INFO Device="TBS 5925 DVBS2 Tuner" Name="Intelsat 805" SatID="3045" Date="2014-10-29 09.03.04" />
<TP ID="1" Freq="3715044" Pol="0" SR="8889940" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="12001" BR="12289030" RF="-45" SNR="5.9" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 826 ms" />
<TP ID="2" Freq="3737517" Pol="0" SR="1666999" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="2" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2083" BR="3713514" RF="-42" SNR="10.3" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1117 ms" />
<TP ID="3" Freq="3739798" Pol="0" SR="1205075" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="2" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="1626" BR="1480730" RF="-43" SNR="10.9" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3224 ms" />
<TP ID="4" Freq="3746050" Pol="0" SR="1600002" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2000" BR="1902400" RF="-43" SNR="3.4" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 4585 ms" />
<TP ID="5" Freq="3754018" Pol="0" SR="4231947" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5713" BR="5850030" RF="-42" SNR="7.2" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 955 ms" />
<TP ID="6" Freq="3759048" Pol="0" SR="2962936" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3999" BR="4095810" RF="-42" SNR="8.1" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 4491 ms" />
<TP ID="7" Freq="3763050" Pol="0" SR="3000014" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="3" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3600" BR="4464000" RF="-42" SNR="4.3" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 996 ms" />
<TP ID="8" Freq="3768048" Pol="0" SR="4427234" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="2" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5976" BR="5439990" RF="-42" SNR="7.6" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2931 ms" />
<TP ID="9" Freq="3776049" Pol="0" SR="7999981" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="10799" BR="14238220" RF="-42" SNR="8.3" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 808 ms" />
<TP ID="10" Freq="3815050" Pol="0" SR="26666462" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="36862300" RF="-40" SNR="6.1" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3960 ms" />
<TP ID="11" Freq="3841770" Pol="0" SR="2580156" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3483" BR="3566670" RF="-45" SNR="7" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1418 ms" />
<TP ID="12" Freq="3859049" Pol="0" SR="3330010" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="5" I="1" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4495" BR="8255070" RF="-45" SNR="9.2" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.1669630, Time to lock: 2822 ms" />
<TP ID="13" Freq="3872646" Pol="0" SR="9332995" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="12599" BR="18486692" RF="-43" SNR="6.4" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.5150890, Time to lock: 3656 ms" />
<TP ID="14" Freq="3910548" Pol="0" SR="5832976" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="5" I="2" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="7874" BR="9651960" RF="-43" SNR="6.9" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 904 ms" />
<TP ID="15" Freq="3918048" Pol="0" SR="5859476" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="7910" BR="8099850" RF="-42" SNR="7.8" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1128 ms" />
<TP ID="16" Freq="3934742" Pol="0" SR="3255336" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="2" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4394" BR="4000010" RF="-44" SNR="8.4" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2370 ms" />
<TP ID="17" Freq="4024048" Pol="0" SR="14999972" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="17999" BR="29713019" RF="-42" SNR="9.1" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 807 ms" />
<TP ID="18" Freq="4084045" Pol="0" SR="10559961" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="13199" BR="18795020" RF="-43" SNR="7.4" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:31 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1397 ms" />
<TP ID="19" Freq="4091564" Pol="0" SR="1680013" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2100" BR="2990400" RF="-43" SNR="8.7" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1104 ms" />
<TP ID="20" Freq="4093465" Pol="0" SR="1360023" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="1700" BR="2420800" RF="-44" SNR="8.7" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2748 ms" />
<TP ID="21" Freq="4095141" Pol="0" SR="1300006" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="1625" BR="2314000" RF="-44" SNR="7.6" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2309 ms" />
<TP ID="22" Freq="4097547" Pol="0" SR="2272010" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="5" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2840" BR="3760160" RF="-43" SNR="6.6" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1127 ms" />
<TP ID="23" Freq="4100171" Pol="0" SR="1840014" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2300" BR="3275200" RF="-44" SNR="8" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3643 ms" />
<TP ID="24" Freq="4104698" Pol="0" SR="5359974" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="6699" BR="9539020" RF="-43" SNR="9" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1882 ms" />
<TP ID="25" Freq="4110548" Pol="0" SR="4000011" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5000" BR="7120000" RF="-44" SNR="7.1" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2141 ms" />
<TP ID="26" Freq="4120299" Pol="0" SR="5499962" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="6599" BR="12257271" RF="-45" SNR="9.5" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 955 ms" />
<TP ID="27" Freq="4132548" Pol="0" SR="4444370" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5999" BR="6143680" RF="-45" SNR="9.5" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3217 ms" />
<TP ID="28" Freq="4136797" Pol="0" SR="2000017" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2500" BR="3962000" RF="-45" SNR="6.9" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2862 ms" />
<TP ID="29" Freq="4141548" Pol="0" SR="4999985" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5999" BR="11142771" RF="-44" SNR="10.8" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2173 ms" />
<TP ID="30" Freq="4146762" Pol="0" SR="3443968" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4649" BR="4760760" RF="-45" SNR="5.7" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1264 ms" />
<TP ID="31" Freq="4150277" Pol="0" SR="1598665" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="2" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2158" BR="2209910" RF="-46" SNR="11.4" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3858 ms" />
<TP ID="32" Freq="4160547" Pol="0" SR="5599979" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="6999" BR="11091619" RF="-46" SNR="9.1" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 911 ms" />
<TP ID="33" Freq="3715302" Pol="1" SR="3589971" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="2" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4487" BR="7109809" RF="-47" SNR="7.5" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2417 ms" />
<TP ID="34" Freq="3735052" Pol="1" SR="8680818" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="11719" BR="11999940" RF="-46" SNR="8.2" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1903 ms" />
<TP ID="35" Freq="3745671" Pol="1" SR="3000364" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4050" BR="4147550" RF="-47" SNR="9.3" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 995 ms" />
<TP ID="36" Freq="3843051" Pol="1" SR="26700066" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="36045" BR="36908800" RF="-44" SNR="4.9" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2326 ms" />
<TP ID="37" Freq="3959301" Pol="1" SR="3589990" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="2" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4487" BR="7999881" RF="-47" SNR="8.2" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2188 ms" />
<TP ID="38" Freq="3963769" Pol="1" SR="3300009" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4455" BR="4561760" RF="-47" SNR="7" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 850 ms" />
<TP ID="39" Freq="3986547" Pol="1" SR="3330015" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3996" BR="7422570" RF="-47" SNR="8.6" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1264 ms" />
<TP ID="40" Freq="3990774" Pol="1" SR="3590003" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="2" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4487" BR="7111790" RF="-47" SNR="7.6" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 887 ms" />
<TP ID="41" Freq="4003050" Pol="1" SR="8680707" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="11718" BR="11999790" RF="-46" SNR="6.8" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 931 ms" />
<TP ID="42" Freq="4020550" Pol="1" SR="18399907" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="22079" BR="36448419" RF="-45" SNR="6.3" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.1869690, Time to lock: 3167 ms" />
<TP ID="43" Freq="4055055" Pol="1" SR="29999808" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="2" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="39688677" RF="-42" SNR="12.7" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1743 ms" />
<TP ID="44" Freq="4080053" Pol="1" SR="4399106" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="5" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5938" BR="6756780" RF="-45" SNR="8.4" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1269 ms" />
<TP ID="45" Freq="4086450" Pol="1" SR="4074323" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="5" I="2" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5500" BR="6742470" RF="-44" SNR="9.1" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1379 ms" />
<TP ID="46" Freq="4091550" Pol="1" SR="3617035" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4882" BR="5000010" RF="-43" SNR="11.2" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 5044 ms" />
<TP ID="47" Freq="4096550" Pol="1" SR="3700269" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="7" I="2" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4995" BR="5967570" RF="-43" SNR="10" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 981 ms" />
<TP ID="48" Freq="4100651" Pol="1" SR="2319586" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="8" I="2" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3131" BR="4097673" RF="-45" SNR="9.8" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1394 ms" />
<TP ID="49" Freq="4111301" Pol="1" SR="1849992" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="2" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2497" BR="3662869" RF="-45" SNR="15.2" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3576 ms" />
<TP ID="50" Freq="4135050" Pol="1" SR="29999898" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="5" I="2" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="74367521" RF="-39" SNR="11.8" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2253 ms" />
<TP ID="51" Freq="4177051" Pol="1" SR="29999993" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="5" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="74367521" RF="-39" SNR="11.6" FeedInfo="10/29/2014 9:01:32 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1501 ms" />
</SAT>
01-29-2015, 09:05 PM
el bandido

Here is a scan of 55.5W using the Pauxis DRO lnb from about 3 months ago.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>

<SAT>
<INFO Device="TBS 5925 DVBS2 Tuner" Name="Intelsat 805" SatID="3045" Date="2014-11-02 09.48.25" />
<TP ID="1" Freq="3714896" Pol="0" SR="8889938" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="12001" BR="12289020" RF="-47" SNR="6.7" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1914 ms" />
<TP ID="2" Freq="3725404" Pol="0" SR="7119977" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="8899" BR="15868251" RF="-46" SNR="9.4" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2794 ms" />
<TP ID="3" Freq="3737403" Pol="0" SR="1667006" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="2" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2083" BR="3715743" RF="-47" SNR="10.7" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3355 ms" />
<TP ID="4" Freq="3745902" Pol="0" SR="1599989" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="1999" BR="1901211" RF="-48" SNR="3.3" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1114 ms" />
<TP ID="5" Freq="3753902" Pol="0" SR="4231976" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5713" BR="5850070" RF="-47" SNR="6.8" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 878 ms" />
<TP ID="6" Freq="3758866" Pol="0" SR="2963149" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4000" BR="4096100" RF="-47" SNR="8.3" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3723 ms" />
<TP ID="7" Freq="3762867" Pol="0" SR="3000006" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="3" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3600" BR="4464000" RF="-46" SNR="6" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2202 ms" />
<TP ID="8" Freq="3767896" Pol="0" SR="4427209" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="2" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5976" BR="5439950" RF="-47" SNR="7.3" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1568 ms" />
<TP ID="9" Freq="3775897" Pol="0" SR="7999981" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="10799" BR="14238220" RF="-46" SNR="8.3" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 881 ms" />
<TP ID="10" Freq="3814885" Pol="0" SR="26666383" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="36862200" RF="-44" SNR="7.2" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1030 ms" />
<TP ID="11" Freq="3858883" Pol="0" SR="3330000" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="5" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3996" BR="8255070" RF="-47" SNR="9.7" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 828 ms" />
<TP ID="12" Freq="3872480" Pol="0" SR="9332941" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="11199" BR="18486692" RF="-45" SNR="7.8" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1826 ms" />
<TP ID="13" Freq="3890326" Pol="0" SR="3333268" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="5" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4499" BR="5119710" RF="-46" SNR="7.8" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 4674 ms" />
<TP ID="14" Freq="3910373" Pol="0" SR="5811342" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="5" I="2" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="7845" BR="9617205" RF="-45" SNR="9.2" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3121 ms" />
<TP ID="15" Freq="3917872" Pol="0" SR="5859516" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="7910" BR="8099910" RF="-44" SNR="10.6" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1263 ms" />
<TP ID="16" Freq="3934568" Pol="0" SR="3255327" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="2" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4394" BR="4000000" RF="-46" SNR="11.3" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2685 ms" />
<TP ID="17" Freq="4023874" Pol="0" SR="14999984" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="17999" BR="29713019" RF="-43" SNR="10.7" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1390 ms" />
<TP ID="18" Freq="4083871" Pol="0" SR="10559970" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="13199" BR="18795020" RF="-41" SNR="8.8" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 742 ms" />
<TP ID="19" Freq="4091391" Pol="0" SR="1680013" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2100" BR="2990400" RF="-41" SNR="10.1" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1175 ms" />
<TP ID="20" Freq="4097346" Pol="0" SR="2272004" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="5" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2840" BR="3760160" RF="-40" SNR="7.8" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1555 ms" />
<TP ID="21" Freq="4100002" Pol="0" SR="1840015" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2300" BR="3275200" RF="-41" SNR="9.8" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1135 ms" />
<TP ID="22" Freq="4104530" Pol="0" SR="5359982" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="6699" BR="9539020" RF="-40" SNR="10.6" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 893 ms" />
<TP ID="23" Freq="4110382" Pol="0" SR="3999987" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4999" BR="7118220" RF="-41" SNR="8.9" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:46 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2078 ms" />
<TP ID="24" Freq="4120133" Pol="0" SR="5499969" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="6599" BR="12257271" RF="-42" SNR="11.4" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1787 ms" />
<TP ID="25" Freq="4132384" Pol="0" SR="4444373" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5999" BR="6143680" RF="-42" SNR="11.7" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 954 ms" />
<TP ID="26" Freq="4136634" Pol="0" SR="2000014" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2500" BR="3962000" RF="-41" SNR="12" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2082 ms" />
<TP ID="27" Freq="4141386" Pol="0" SR="4999996" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5999" BR="11142771" RF="-40" SNR="13.1" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1330 ms" />
<TP ID="28" Freq="4150120" Pol="0" SR="1600546" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="2" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2160" BR="2212510" RF="-43" SNR="13.8" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 6490 ms" />
<TP ID="29" Freq="4160389" Pol="0" SR="5600000" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="7000" BR="11093600" RF="-42" SNR="13.5" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 864 ms" />
<TP ID="30" Freq="3715159" Pol="1" SR="3589970" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="2" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4487" BR="7109809" RF="-48" SNR="9.3" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1950 ms" />
<TP ID="31" Freq="3734910" Pol="1" SR="8680840" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="11719" BR="11999980" RF="-48" SNR="10.1" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 950 ms" />
<TP ID="32" Freq="3752418" Pol="1" SR="6110935" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="5" I="2" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="8249" BR="9386060" RF="-48" SNR="9.3" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1848 ms" />
<TP ID="33" Freq="3778669" Pol="1" SR="3590003" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="2" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4487" BR="8002110" RF="-48" SNR="9" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2080 ms" />
<TP ID="34" Freq="3806925" Pol="1" SR="26662213" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="7" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35993" BR="42999300" RF="-46" SNR="7.5" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 838 ms" />
<TP ID="35" Freq="3842919" Pol="1" SR="26699929" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="36044" BR="36908600" RF="-45" SNR="6.8" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1703 ms" />
<TP ID="36" Freq="3959150" Pol="1" SR="3591305" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="2" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4489" BR="7113771" RF="-47" SNR="10.5" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2361 ms" />
<TP ID="37" Freq="3963550" Pol="1" SR="3329986" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4495" BR="4603200" RF="-46" SNR="10.5" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2350 ms" />
<TP ID="38" Freq="3968145" Pol="1" SR="3309987" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4137" BR="6555129" RF="-46" SNR="9.8" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2009 ms" />
<TP ID="39" Freq="3986395" Pol="1" SR="3330000" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3996" BR="7422570" RF="-47" SNR="9.7" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1052 ms" />
<TP ID="40" Freq="3990652" Pol="1" SR="3590000" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="2" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4487" BR="7111790" RF="-46" SNR="8.9" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3036 ms" />
<TP ID="41" Freq="4002897" Pol="1" SR="8680744" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="11719" BR="11999840" RF="-46" SNR="7.4" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2912 ms" />
<TP ID="42" Freq="4020390" Pol="1" SR="18399875" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="22079" BR="36448419" RF="-44" SNR="8.1" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 730 ms" />
<TP ID="43" Freq="4054896" Pol="1" SR="29999845" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="2" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="39688677" RF="-41" SNR="13.8" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2697 ms" />
<TP ID="44" Freq="4079893" Pol="1" SR="4399073" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="5" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5938" BR="6756740" RF="-45" SNR="9.6" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1143 ms" />
<TP ID="45" Freq="4086289" Pol="1" SR="4074307" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="5" I="2" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5500" BR="6742470" RF="-44" SNR="10.8" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 834 ms" />
<TP ID="46" Freq="4091390" Pol="1" SR="3617006" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4882" BR="4999970" RF="-43" SNR="12.3" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1847 ms" />
<TP ID="47" Freq="4096357" Pol="1" SR="3700251" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="7" I="2" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4995" BR="5967560" RF="-44" SNR="11.4" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 4383 ms" />
<TP ID="48" Freq="4100492" Pol="1" SR="2319592" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="8" I="2" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3131" BR="4097673" RF="-45" SNR="11.9" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 4275 ms" />
<TP ID="49" Freq="4111142" Pol="1" SR="1849993" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="2" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2497" BR="3662869" RF="-45" SNR="15.6" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3284 ms" />
<TP ID="50" Freq="4134891" Pol="1" SR="29999871" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="5" I="2" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="74367521" RF="-40" SNR="12.9" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3552 ms" />
<TP ID="51" Freq="4176890" Pol="1" SR="29999946" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="5" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="74367521" RF="-41" SNR="12.8" FeedInfo="11/2/2014 9:38:47 AM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1788 ms" />
</SAT>
01-29-2015, 09:08 PM
el bandido

Here is a scan of 55.5W done earlier this evening using the Geosat C2 pll lnb.
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<SAT>
<INFO Device="TBS 5925 DVBS2 Tuner" Name="Intelsat 805" SatID="3045" Date="2015-01-29 20.17.03" />
<TP ID="1" Freq="3715227" Pol="0" SR="8889979" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="12001" BR="12289070" RF="-46" SNR="6.5" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 5344 ms" />
<TP ID="2" Freq="3739949" Pol="0" SR="1205465" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="2" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="1627" BR="1481210" RF="-45" SNR="9" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1614 ms" />
<TP ID="3" Freq="3754234" Pol="0" SR="4232003" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5713" BR="5850110" RF="-45" SNR="5" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1628 ms" />
<TP ID="4" Freq="3763234" Pol="0" SR="3000002" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="3" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3600" BR="4464000" RF="-45" SNR="5.6" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1406 ms" />
<TP ID="5" Freq="3776234" Pol="0" SR="7999965" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="10799" BR="14238220" RF="-45" SNR="5.7" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2857 ms" />
<TP ID="6" Freq="3815234" Pol="0" SR="26666458" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="36862300" RF="-42" SNR="5" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3911 ms" />
<TP ID="7" Freq="3838730" Pol="0" SR="2599977" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="8" I="2" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3119" BR="4592433" RF="-45" SNR="7.2" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1274 ms" />
<TP ID="8" Freq="3841987" Pol="0" SR="2579849" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3482" BR="3566240" RF="-45" SNR="9.3" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 4576 ms" />
<TP ID="9" Freq="3859234" Pol="0" SR="3330009" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="5" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3996" BR="8255070" RF="-45" SNR="11.1" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 4164 ms" />
<TP ID="10" Freq="3872834" Pol="0" SR="9332952" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="11199" BR="18486692" RF="-44" SNR="7.9" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3015 ms" />
<TP ID="11" Freq="3890653" Pol="0" SR="3333293" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="5" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4499" BR="5119750" RF="-45" SNR="6" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3144 ms" />
<TP ID="12" Freq="3910732" Pol="0" SR="5832980" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="5" I="2" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="7874" BR="9651960" RF="-44" SNR="8.9" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1449 ms" />
<TP ID="13" Freq="3918232" Pol="0" SR="5859496" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="7910" BR="8099880" RF="-44" SNR="9.3" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1441 ms" />
<TP ID="14" Freq="3934927" Pol="0" SR="3255317" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="2" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4394" BR="3999980" RF="-46" SNR="9.9" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1074 ms" />
<TP ID="15" Freq="4015232" Pol="0" SR="29999921" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="59428019" RF="-42" SNR="8.7" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2498 ms" />
<TP ID="16" Freq="4084229" Pol="0" SR="10559967" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="13199" BR="18795020" RF="-42" SNR="8.4" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1703 ms" />
<TP ID="17" Freq="4091749" Pol="0" SR="1680014" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2100" BR="2990400" RF="-42" SNR="10.4" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1246 ms" />
<TP ID="18" Freq="4093650" Pol="0" SR="1360522" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="1700" BR="2420800" RF="-42" SNR="9.6" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1525 ms" />
<TP ID="19" Freq="4097731" Pol="0" SR="2272009" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="5" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2840" BR="3760160" RF="-42" SNR="6.2" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1667 ms" />
<TP ID="20" Freq="4100355" Pol="0" SR="1839990" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2299" BR="3273420" RF="-42" SNR="8.1" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3533 ms" />
<TP ID="21" Freq="4104882" Pol="0" SR="5359989" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="6699" BR="9539020" RF="-41" SNR="9.4" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 5312 ms" />
<TP ID="22" Freq="4110733" Pol="0" SR="4000007" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="13" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5000" BR="7120000" RF="-42" SNR="8.8" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2288 ms" />
<TP ID="23" Freq="4120483" Pol="0" SR="5499990" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="6599" BR="12257271" RF="-42" SNR="10.6" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1686 ms" />
<TP ID="24" Freq="4132732" Pol="0" SR="4444418" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5999" BR="6143740" RF="-43" SNR="8" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2563 ms" />
<TP ID="25" Freq="4136982" Pol="0" SR="1999940" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2699" BR="2764620" RF="-42" SNR="11.2" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 3397 ms" />
<TP ID="26" Freq="4141733" Pol="0" SR="4999993" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5999" BR="11142771" RF="-41" SNR="11.6" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1018 ms" />
<TP ID="27" Freq="4146978" Pol="0" SR="3443974" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4649" BR="7674447" RF="-41" SNR="9.9" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1094 ms" />
<TP ID="28" Freq="4150462" Pol="0" SR="1600100" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="2" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2160" BR="2211900" RF="-43" SNR="12.7" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 5734 ms" />
<TP ID="29" Freq="4160731" Pol="0" SR="5599977" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="6999" BR="11091619" RF="-42" SNR="11.6" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1209 ms" />
<TP ID="30" Freq="3712238" Pol="1" SR="3500054" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="3" I="1" R="2" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4375" BR="5208000" RF="-46" SNR="10.6" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1002 ms" />
<TP ID="31" Freq="3749738" Pol="1" SR="7199981" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="2" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="8999" BR="14261219" RF="-47" SNR="6.9" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 947 ms" />
<TP ID="32" Freq="3843237" Pol="1" SR="26699539" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="36044" BR="36908100" RF="-44" SNR="5.8" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 954 ms" />
<TP ID="33" Freq="3963886" Pol="1" SR="3329978" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4495" BR="4603190" RF="-46" SNR="10.1" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1801 ms" />
<TP ID="34" Freq="3986732" Pol="1" SR="3329991" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="3" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3995" BR="7420341" RF="-46" SNR="8.3" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2254 ms" />
<TP ID="35" Freq="4003235" Pol="1" SR="8680688" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="11718" BR="11999760" RF="-46" SNR="6.7" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 900 ms" />
<TP ID="36" Freq="4020734" Pol="1" SR="18399963" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="22079" BR="36448419" RF="-44" SNR="8.1" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2302 ms" />
<TP ID="37" Freq="4055240" Pol="1" SR="29999874" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="2" I="1" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="39688677" RF="-42" SNR="12.4" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 870 ms" />
<TP ID="38" Freq="4080237" Pol="1" SR="4399065" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="5" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5938" BR="6756720" RF="-46" SNR="8.1" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1564 ms" />
<TP ID="39" Freq="4086484" Pol="1" SR="4074316" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="5" I="2" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="5500" BR="6742470" RF="-45" SNR="5.9" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2340 ms" />
<TP ID="40" Freq="4091735" Pol="1" SR="3617026" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4882" BR="4999990" RF="-44" SNR="10.6" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 5675 ms" />
<TP ID="41" Freq="4096702" Pol="1" SR="3700267" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="7" I="2" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="4995" BR="5967570" RF="-44" SNR="9.1" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2199 ms" />
<TP ID="42" Freq="4100836" Pol="1" SR="2319591" Std="2" Mod="5" FEC="8" I="2" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3131" BR="4097673" RF="-45" SNR="9" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 2400 ms" />
<TP ID="43" Freq="4107237" Pol="1" SR="2959985" Std="1" Mod="1" FEC="3" I="1" R="1" P="0" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="3995" BR="4091730" RF="-45" SNR="7.7" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1127 ms" />
<TP ID="44" Freq="4111486" Pol="1" SR="1850015" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="2" I="2" R="1" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="2497" BR="3664850" RF="-45" SNR="12.7" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1225 ms" />
<TP ID="45" Freq="4135234" Pol="1" SR="29999860" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="5" I="2" R="3" P="1" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="74367521" RF="-41" SNR="9.5" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.5188550, Time to lock: 3098 ms" />
<TP ID="46" Freq="4177235" Pol="1" SR="29999914" Std="2" Mod="2" FEC="5" I="1" R="3" P="2" Frame="0" CT="0" ST="0" MIS="0" ISSYI="0" NPD="0" CW="35999" BR="74367521" RF="-41" SNR="10.5" FeedInfo="1/29/2015 8:09:55 PM" Info="MIS: 0, BER: 0.0000000, Time to lock: 1582 ms" />
</SAT>
01-29-2015, 09:34 PM
el bandido

So now we have 3 scans of a satellite using 3 different lnbs. Granted they were done at different times, but I think if you look at them, you will find they are pretty consistent with each other.

Some things need to be clarified:

A DRO lnb has a tuning slug. With all other things created equal in the manufacturing, such as type of lnb case used, the DRO lnb will weigh a bit more than a pll lnb. The DRO lnb will weigh a bit more because of the tuning slug for the l.o. frequency.

A PLL lnb does not have a tuning slug for the l.o. frequency. so it will weigh less, plus less manufacturing time will be spent tuning the PLL lnb.

PLL or Phase Locked Loop Does Not have any additional signal amplification built into it. Your received signal from the satellite is not going to increase just because the lnb is a PLL type instead of a DRO type.

PLL lnbs should be expected to perform better on narrow satellite signals, but overall you can expect similar performance from a DRO or PLL lnb IF all other things are equal in the satellite antenna system, and IF both lnbs are healthy and of equal design.

DRO lnbs will have a disadvantage on the l.o. frequency drift because of the tuning slug. Vibrations due to wind or other acts of nature can cause the tuning slug in the DRO lnb to move. A lot of people have DRO lnbs that are 10-20 years old that are in good working condition. I would say this is the exception though and not the norm.

I arranged to get the Titanium C2 lnb back for a few days, so the plan will be to test the Geosat C2 directly against the Titanium C2. The tests should consist of scanning the satellites at 116.8W and at 55.5W, once in the morning and once in the evening over a period of days. Doing it this way allows for a complete picture of how the lnbs actually compare. EB
01-30-2015, 11:38 PM
el bandido

The Geosatpro C2 is doing a very good job, so I took the time to list the results of a 55.5W scan on 1-30-2015 in the evening.
56 Transponders were logged in the scan, and that is the highest I remember seeing on this satellite. Weather conditions probably favored a better than average scan, with cool temperatures, partly cloudy sky, and very little wind. I will make sure the Titanium C2 lnb gets at least one scan under the same conditions.

Logging or locking a large number of transponders is nice, and makes for excellent sales material. But to me, it does not mean that much. I think it is more important how a lnb performs over time, and over a wide range of signals and satellites instead of how many transponders it can lock on a single satellite in exceptional weather.

Another thing to remember is transponders can be turned on and off. This makes it even harder to determine if a lnb is doing an exceptional job, or if it is just being tested in a favorable moment.

TTYPE]
1=3045
2=Intelsat 805
[DVB]
0=56
1=3715,H,8890,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-45" SNR="7.7"
2=3735,H,2244,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-45" SNR="6.1"
3=3738,H,1667,34,S2,8PSK RF="-45" SNR="11.4"
4=3754,H,4232,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-44" SNR="5.7"
5=3759,H,2963,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-44" SNR="7.7"
6=3768,H,4427,23,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-45" SNR="6.4"
7=3776,H,8000,35,S2,8PSK RF="-44" SNR="7.2"
8=3815,H,26667,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-41" SNR="6.2"
9=3836,H,2500,89,S2,QPSK2 RF="-45" SNR="5.6"
10=3839,H,2600,89,S2,QPSK2 RF="-44" SNR="6.8"
11=3842,H,2580,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-45" SNR="8.6"
12=3859,H,3343,35,S2,QPSK2RF="-44" SNR="11.5"
13=3873,H,9333,23,S2,8PSK RF="-43" SNR="6.8"
14=3891,H,3333,56,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-45" SNR="5.9"
15=3911,H,5786,56,S2,QPSK2 RF="-43" SNR="8.6"
16=3918,H,5859,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-43" SNR="8.5"
17=3935,H,3255,23,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-45" SNR="10.2"
18=3961,H,3330,56,S2,8PSK RF="-46" SNR="10.9"
19=3991,H,7200,34,S2,8PSK RF="-44" SNR="8.1"
20=4015,H,30000,23,S2,8PSK RF="-41" SNR="8.9"
21=4084,H,10560,35,S2,8PSK RF="-41" SNR="8.9"
22=4092,H,1680,35,S2,8PSK RF="-41" SNR="10.5"
23=4094,H,1360,35,S2,8PSK RF="-41" SNR="10.1"
24=4095,H,1300,35,S2,8PSK RF="-41" SNR="9.5"
25=4098,H,2272,56,S2,QPSK2 RF="-41" SNR="7.4"
26=4100,H,1840,35,S2,8PSK RF="-41" SNR="10.1"
27=4105,H,5360,35,S2,8PSK RF="-40" SNR="9.3"
28=4111,H,4000,35,S2,8PSK RF="-41" SNR="8.9"
29=4120,H,5500,34,S2,8PSK RF="-42" SNR="9.9"
30=4133,H,4444,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-42" SNR="9.3"
31=4137,H,2000,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-41" SNR="12.5"
32=4142,H,5000,34,S2,8PSK RF="-40" SNR="11.6"
33=4147,H,3444,34,S2,8PSK RF="-41" SNR="9.4"
34=4150,H,1599,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-42" SNR="13"
35=4161,H,5600,23,S2,8PSK RF="-41" SNR="12.8"
36=3711,V,3700,56,S2,8PSK RF="-46" SNR="12.3"
37=3716,V,3700,56,S2,8PSK RF="-45" SNR="8.8"
38=3750,V,7200,23,S2,8PSK RF="-47" SNR="8.2"
39=3778,V,4937,34,S2,8PSK RF="-46" SNR="8.3"
40=3807,V,26663,78,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-44" SNR="6.2"
41=3843,V,26700,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-43" SNR="5.5"
42=3964,V,3330,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-46" SNR="11.6"
43=3987,V,3317,23,S2,8PSK RF="-46" SNR="9.3"
44=3991,V,3590,23,S2,8PSK RF="-46" SNR="7.4"
45=4003,V,8681,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-45" SNR="7.4"
46=4021,V,18400,23,S2,8PSK RF="-44" SNR="8.7"
47=4055,V,30000,23,S2,QPSK2 RF="-41" SNR="14"
48=4080,V,4399,56,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-45" SNR="9.9"
49=4086,V,4019,56,S2,QPSK2 RF="-44" SNR="8.3"
50=4092,V,3617,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-44" SNR="12"
51=4097,V,3700,78,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-44" SNR="10.2"
52=4101,V,2320,89,S2,QPSK2 RF="-45" SNR="9.8"
53=4107,V,2960,34,DVB-S,QPSK RF="-45" SNR="9.2"
54=4111,V,1850,23,S2,8PSK RF="-45" SNR="13.7"
55=4135,V,30000,56,S2,8PSK RF="-40" SNR="10.2"
56=4177,V,30000,56,S2,8PSK RF="-40" SNR="11.3"
02-01-2015, 12:49 AM
el bandido

2 Attachment(s)

Finished scanning with the Geosat C2 lnb. The Titanium lnb is on the dish and a good amount of time was spent adjusting it.
Some test scans were made on Saturday night with the Titanium lnb. These scans show a drop in found transponders, but the missed transponders may be turned off. Let's see what happens with the Titanium C2 over the next couple of days.

SNR numbers are down a bit with the Titanium C2 when compared to the Geosat C2. It should be noted that the Titanium C2 SNR exceeds the Geosat C2 SNR on some transponders, but the Titanium is down in SNR more than it is up. I doubt you would notice this SNR drop much while watching satellite tv.

The Titanium C2 scan of 55.5W:
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02-01-2015, 09:40 AM
el bandido

The Titanium lnb appears to be having problems with my antenna system. I have a 3X4 multiswitch installed so I can feed 4 receivers with a dual lnb.
I have not had any problems for two years with this system using the Pauxis dro lnb. Now I have to turn all other fta receivers off that are connected to this system when scanning with the Titanium lnb. If I do not turn the other receivers off, the Titanium lnb fails to scan many transponders!
02-01-2015, 10:31 AM
el bandido

The Titanium lnb has been removed. Apparently it is having problems. I reinstalled the Pauxis and the transponder count went up immediately. I will run the Pauxis for a while, then might try a reinstall of the Titanium C2 after that.
10-23-2015, 01:37 AM
Tron 2.0

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The Titanium lnb appears to be having problems with my antenna system. I have a 3X4 multiswitch installed so I can feed 4 receivers with a dual lnb.
I have not had any problems for two years with this system using the Pauxis dro lnb. Now I have to turn all other fta receivers off that are connected to this system when scanning with the Titanium lnb. If I do not turn the other receivers off, the Titanium lnb fails to scan many transponders!

Hey El!
Could you please post a pic(s) of your switch? I want to see what kind you have as I am looking for something to feed multi receivers with too. Do you remember where you bought it?
I always enjoyed half-decent results with Titanium's LNBF, it always seemed to have trouble bringing in a number of weak channels that I thought it shouldn't have that much trouble with. I always figured that's how it was for the past year I used it as Titanium's LNBF ranks #1 amoung users in another forum. The large useless heat sink did seem to take up alot of tuning room and wanted something that wouldn't be prone to leaking eventually. Since I never signed any type of Loyalty Contract with Brian Gohl that I know of, I felt that I was free to try other LNBF'S out there; despite getting a not so kind or accurate private email from Brian regarding your other thread. I never responded to Brians email, it was so over the top wrong and insulting, it wasn't worth stooping to his level. Anyway, I was rather surprised to find better performance with a Chaparral DRO C-Band LNBF for a short time before switching over to a GeoSatPro C2 C-Band LNBF with similar results of the Chaparral! I am still using the Geosatpro LNBF, and I still want to test out how many channels I can get with it. [emoji2]

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10-23-2015, 09:30 AM
el bandido

You are free to post the email if you think it is something worth sharing. Otherwise keep it to yourself. I post what I find about products, so it is expected that some will not be happy with the results.

There is a lot of over-rating of the pll lnb for fta use. In a perfect world, a pll lnb would perform better on a skinny transponder and that is all. We have heard that the pll lnb performs great on all transponders, regardless of size, and then some. I have seen writings where a pll lnb will lock a transponder signal three degrees away, and how a pll lnb will lock transponders that a dro lnb is not capable of. Most of these things are myths or misguided judgements because the professional lnb makers will tell you a dro lnb will perform as well as a pll lnb except on the narrow or skinny transponder signals. I think most of the professional lnb makers would also say it is better to have and not need than to need and not have. So by all means get a PLL lnb if you think it will help you.

Any decent 3X4 switch should work. I have attached a picture of one I am using.

To be clear, The Titanium lnb seemed to have a problem with port separation at one point. I cannot remember exactly why I was having problems with it right now, but the receiver ports did have enough isolation where they were Not interfering with each other.

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10-23-2015, 12:41 PM
Tron 2.0

Thank you for the pic! :-) Have you noticed any frequency drift in a DRO LNBF due to age or high summer tempetatures yet? That was my main concern about using a DRO LNBF, but I do like the PLL Geosatpro LNBF I'm using now. I do enjoy reading your posts, your reporting real world results like I do, I appreciate that. :-)

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10-23-2015, 01:10 PM
el bandido

I have dro lnbs that are at least 20 years old and they still work!

Frequency drift can be a concern when transmitting or receiving narrow signals such as data from a has station, oil company, or a weather station. Frequency drift is not much of a concern when receiving signals designed for television. Television signals usually produce a much wider signal when compared to a data only signal, so frequency drift is not as critical for television as it is for small streams of data.

It could be said all lnbs have frequency drift. But again you are receiving pictures for television so a small amount of lnb drift does not matter.

You may test this yourself by moving any transponder frequency 1 MHZ at a time until you lose signal. Most of our satellite transponders are extremely wide and the transponder frequency can be changed by several MHz before losing the signal. Try it yourself and see.
10-23-2015, 04:34 PM
Tron 2.0

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I have dro lnbs that are at least 20 years old and they still work!

Frequency drift can be a concern when transmitting or receiving narrow signals such as data from a has station, oil company, or a weather station. Frequency drift is not much of a concern when receiving signals designed for television. Television signals usually produce a much wider signal when compared to a data only signal, so frequency drift is not as critical for television as it is for small streams of data.

It could be said all lnbs have frequency drift. But again you are receiving pictures for television so a small amount of lnb drift does not matter.

You may test this yourself by moving any transponder frequency 1 MHZ at a time until you lose signal. Most of our satellite transponders are extremely wide and the transponder frequency can be changed by several MHz before losing the signal. Try it yourself and see.

That's interesting, thanks for the info! :-) I have tested the C-Band frequency margins before on a receiver, and found that I had 10Mhz either way before the receiver lost the signal. I have read different stories from guys who would just lose satellite signal out of the blue to their DRO LNBF, they figured the DRO drifted too far out because of age and hot/cold. But like you would say, it could be pretty much anything. I still have a couple of good quality DRO LNBF's, maybe I will go back to those someday on a different project. But in the meantime, I want to try this new PLL GeoSatPro LNBF for the winter season, where the signals tend to come in the strongest it seems. I am also testing out a new receiver for my C-Band dish that claims to have a VERY sensitive tuner.

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10-23-2015, 06:36 PM
el bandido

Dro lnbs can drift enough to upset the television picture signal, but this is not a common problem. usually something else causes the loss of signal besides a drifting dro lnb. Dishnet and Direct Tv have used dro lnbs for many years. You could expect these companies to use pll lnbs if there was an advantage to them.

Keep testing because that is how we learn. You can use a hair drier to warm a lnb if you want to see how it performs in hot or cold weather. Dry ice or ice packs can be used for cooling tests if needed.

I played with c band on a 1.2 meter dish several years ago. I bought every c band lnb that was available to test on a 1.2 meter dish. A few years later, I bought every c band lnb that I could find that was already not in my inventory because of c band transponder problems in enigma2 fta receiver systems. So I ended up with a pretty good collection of c band lnbs. More or less, all of these c band lnbs performed the same when tuned to the same dish. These lnbs (lnbf's) all contain a single dipole antenna for each of the two polarities. So in reality, they all use the same antenna, which explains why they more or less receive the same stuff.

To obtain the best signal possible, my experience has been that it is more important of how the dish is set up and how the lnb is mounted to the dish than it is as to what brand of lnb is being used. The feedline that is used to connect the dish to the receiver is also important. Just a little bit of water or moisture inside the feedline or its connectors can cause all sorts of received signal issues. The way the lnb is mounted in the scalar ring is also important. Mount the lnb too loose and the received signal may abruptly change for no apparent reason. Mount the lnb too tight and you distort the waveguide or the lnb tube which usually results in a small loss of signal. One sign of mounting the lnb too tight inside the scalar is having the plastic lnb cover pop off during installation.

There are a lot of little things that can make a satellite antenna system good or bad. But for the most part, the choice between using a dro or pll lnb will make little to no difference in received signal strength. You can watch tv using either one of them.
10-23-2015, 07:48 PM
Titanium

TRON 2.0, No need to suggest any impropriety... You have my full permission to share the recent email in response to your posting in the other thread. I had felt that it was more appropriate to respond in private as I had not been contacted by you regarding and issues. I continue to offer you a full refund if you really feel so poorly about me or feel that you were duped or purchased a poor performance product. I have always tried to assist you with your projects on other forums and sent you install goodies as you were starting out. I love the hobby and enjoy helping folks figure out the technology. If I have failed you, sorry!

El Bandido, Enjoying the wealth of information that you share. I agree that DRO and PLL LNBs both provide similar performance on the fat and easy to receive muxes. In addition to the advantages of a PLL on skinny bandwidth SCPC services as you mention, a PLL really helps on high FEC transponders or signals near the threshold.

An engineer friend does contract work with Dish Network and he indicated that they are currently testing some PLL LNBFs for the next generation development. The previous generation of PLL ICs had significatly higher current draw, generated higher noise, more heat and were quite expensive. About three years ago the new RDA PLL chips were introduced. These have really been a game changer for lowering the power demands, increased performance and at a low cost very close to a DRO build.

I'll add my observations on the frequency drift. Most receivers have excellent AFT circuits and track the typical amount of LO thermal drift. DRO drift is most noticeable in the temperature extremes as they may cause the LO frequency to drift beyond the auto tuning capability of the receiver. Many Norsats, NJR and other brand LNBFs running strong and on exact frequency after 20+ years! Speaks volumes to their quality!

Have a great weekend!