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    4:2:2 SD/HD Video FTA Receiver Scam
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    Seems the 4:2:2 video topic comes up every time a new consumer fta receiver comes out. The correct answer from the vendor or seller should be a simple NO when asked if their new box supports 4:2:2 HD or SD video. But that is too easy. Instead, the answer is "No 4:2:2 out of the box" or "Not yet, but we are working on it".

    Most sellers or vendors of consumer fta receivers know or should know that the product they are selling cannot receive the 4:2:2 SD or HD video natively. Not today, not next week, not ever. I have seen this 4:2:2 video hyped in such a way as to make the customer or potential customer think the box is actually capable of it. When a seller knowingly misleads a customer or customers like this, it is a Scam!

    The majority of consumer fta receivers have chips made by Broadcom in them. I once saw a statement by someone working for Broadcom that said the company would never release a consumer fta receiver that could natively receive the 4:2:2 SD or HD video because they were considered to be professional codecs. I think HEVC 4:2:2 video is different, and you may see fta consumer receivers advertising this feature.

    So I must ask: Why are the consumer fta sellers and vendors still pushing the 4:2:2 SD/HD video when they know it is not possible to do natively? To be sure, there are work-rounds and stream relays that can be used to watch the few feeds that are actually 4:2:2. But you will need a commercial receiver to view these feeds natively unless you have one of the few older consumer fta receivers that had this capability natively.

    Will this deception and scamming ever stop? I doubt it. Will someone get lucky one day and produce a consumer fta receiver with native 4:2:2 SD/HD video capability? I would say it is possible, but not likely. Most sellers of North American fta equipment only have low-end products. Most of their stuff comes from China and does not work that great to begin with due to poor support. People want it and people buy it. That is why they sell it. People also buy their deception. EB



    Professional satellite receiver .pdf attached. Note the word License in the 4:2:2 description
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    "Seems the 4:2:2 video topic comes up every time a new consumer fta receiver comes out. The correct answer from the vendor or seller should be a simple NO when asked if their new box supports 4:2:2 HD or SD video. But that is too easy. Instead, the answer is "No 4:2:2 out of the box" or "Not yet, but we are working on it".

    Short answer... they wouldn't sell as many receivers. Plus dangling the marketing carrot creates the "mystique" that a future break through is just around the corner. Also known as fake news, be it good or bad. Then, another carrot magically appears to start the cycle again. FTA on this side of the pond, needs an injection of new ideas and products or it will continue to stagnate.

    Forgot to say.... GO E2!!!
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    Here is a 4:2:2 question about the new Octagon SF-4008:

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    Google translation =
    In the appendix is ​​a short listing probably in the 4: 2: 2 format. Picture is black. Is there possibly a possibility, this in the foreseeable time synonymous with image play?
    4:2:2 Is a feature that is wanted around the world.
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    Meine Dreambox One ist ein Stück Scheiße!.
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    sounds exotic but old openbox s10 cousins had it in the tv resolution screen 5 years ago.
    If you look at openbox firmware it is still there but the choice is disabled and doesn't appear in the menu.
    Code:
    0000000 487A 0000 2535 644B 732F 7300 3438 3069 Hz..%5dKs/s.480i
    00000010 0000 0000 3438 3070 0000 0000 3537 3669 ....480p....576i
    00000020 0000 0000 3537 3670 0000 0000 3732 3070 ....576p....720p
    00000030 5F35 3000 3732 3070 5F36 3000 3130 3830 _50.720p_60.1080
    00000040 695F 3530 0000 0000 3130 3830 695F 3630 i_50....1080i_60
    00000050 0000 0000 4175 746F 0000 0000 5247 422D ....Auto....RGB-
    00000060 4E6F 726D 616C 0000 5247 422D 4578 7061 Normal..RGB-Expa
    00000070 6E64 0000 5943 6243 7220 343A 343A 3400 nd..YCbCr 4:4:4.
    00000080 5943 6243 7220 343A 323A 3200 4253 204F YCbCr 4:2:2.BS O
    00000090 7574 0000 4C50 434D 204F 7574 0000 0000 ut..LPCM Out....
    000000A0 343A 3350 5300 0000 343A 334C 4200 0000 4:3PS...4:3LB...
    000000B0 5955 5600 5247 4200 4E54 5343 0000 0000 YUV.RGB.NTSC....
    000000C0 5041 4C2D 4247 0000 5041 4C2D 4900 0000 PAL-BG..PAL-I...
    000000D0 5041 4C2D 444B 0000 766F 6C00 5A4F 4F4D PAL-DK..vol.ZOOM
    000000E0 2020 2058 2564 0000 4844 4D44 0000 0000    X%d..HDMD....
    000000F0 5041 4C2D 4D00 0000 5041 4C2D 4E00 0000 PAL-M...PAL-N...
    00000100 3732 3070 0000 0000 3130 3830 6900 0000 720p....1080i...
    00000110 2E42 4D50 0000 0000 2E4D 5033 0000 0000 .BMP.....MP3....
    00000120 2E4A 5047 0000 0000 2E57 4D41 0000 0000 .JPG.....WMA....
    00000130 2E4F 4747 0000 0000 2E4D 5047 0000 0000 .OGG.....MPG....
    00000140 2E4D 5045 4700 0000 2564 2525 2E00 0000 .MPEG...%d%%....
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    or am I being obtuse?
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    YCbCr 4:2:2 Is not what this thread is about
    More info on that can be found here: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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    107w ku used to have 4:2:2 channels but I can't get any signal.
    They are either gone or beamed just to canada.
    I will have to wait for a sports wildfeed I guess.
    or am I being obtuse?
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    This thread is about the following standards:
    DVB-S QPSK 4.2.2 MPEG2

    DVB-S2 QPSK 4.2.2 MPEG2

    DVB-S2 QPSK 4.2.2 MPEG4

    DVB-S2 8PSK 4.2.2 MPEG2

    DVB-S2 8PSK 4.2.2 MPEG4

    The Ali receivers, or any other Broadcom consumer chipped receiver are not capable of those modes.
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    dr.zin There is the CBS feeds on G19 or G28 c-band if you want to try 4:2:2 chroma reception.That's if you have the equipment?
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    Now we are hearing about some FTA receivers being able to decode 4.2.2 / MPEG4. TEK2000 Falsely advertises a receiver to receive 4.2.2 / MPEG4 .
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    This is a scam! The Zgemma H7 does not have 4.2.2 / MPEG4 capability at present.

    Some new receivers have chipsets that can open or decode 4.2.2 / MPEG4. Most likely, a license fee for each receiver will need to be paid by the manufacturer, and I doubt that happens. You cannot activate 4.2.2 / MPEG4 on a handful or a select few FTA receivers of a certain make and model. It would have to be all or none because once the drivers are released, they could be installed in any of the receivers of the same make and model. OpenPLI and other image groups cannot change or alter the drivers needed to open 4.2.2 / MPEG4. Only the manufacturer can do this.

    This reminds me of Sadoun advertising his Sathawk back in 2010 as "No 4:2:2 Out Of The Box".

    Certain salespeople and a few others will continue to talk about 4:2:2 and now 4.2.2 / MPEG4 as being available in the new FTA receivers. Do not buy a receiver based on trash talk from salespeople or from others that do not know! Either the receiver has this feature or it does not have this feature. Do Not buy into the idea that the 4.2.2 / MPEG4 feature will be added later because it will probably not happen.

    Only buy FTA receivers for the features it has today. Do Not buy FTA receivers for features that may be available or have next week, next month, or next firmware release.

    There may be some illegal hacks or other ways to open 4.2.2 / MPEG4 on receivers in the future. I wonder what the salespeople would have to say about that? They are against pirating and theft, right?

    Any changes or updates that allows the reception of 4:2:2, 4.2.2 / MPEG4 natively in a FTA receiver will be acknowledged in this thread.
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    The admin/tek2000 guy is still beating the 4:2:2 drums.

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    This tek2000 guy who also posts under the admin nic is a dishonest person and a scammer.
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