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    Edison Mini Vs. Edison Mio
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    Hello,

    I have been reading the forum and it appears there is a lot of Interest in the Edison brand receiver.

    Therefore, I would like to ask a question. Can the Edison OS Mini be used in the United States? The reason I'm asking this question is because the Edison OS Mip + 4K appears to support not only satellite but terrestrial television and cable, which I believe only supports European Standard. This would make these features of the box irrelevant to a satellite enthusiast in the United States. Is this the case? Do I understand this correctly?

    If this is the case it would appear the EDISION OS Mini 4K DVB S2X would work in the USA. True?

    Finally, Where do you source these receivers?

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    Almost all fta receivers that support terrestrial and/or cable use the European standard. FTA satellite reception is pretty much a world-wide standard, so any fta satellite receiver will Usually work on the c and ku band satellites in North America. Some fta receivers wail work better than others, and some fta receivers will have more capabilities than others.

    There have not been any new fta receivers manufactured for some years. What is being sold as new (2021-2023 models) is rebranded or re-boxed stuff, mostly made in years 2016-2018 or earlier. The 2020 pandemic and the loss of interest in fta satellite reception on a worldwide level are two reasons new fta receivers are not being produced.

    The Edision MIO, MIO+, and Mini 4K fta satellite receivers were made before the pandemic, and a lot of effort was made to allow these receivers to work exceptionally well in North America. The MIO receivers that have internal Terrestrial or Cable tuners Will Not work in North America on Terrestrial or Cable services. The MIO receivers do support some ATSC Hauppauge usb tuner models which allows the MIO receiver models to work on our Terrestrial TV signals.

    The Edision OS Mini 4K was produced a little bit later than the MIO or MIO+ models. The MIO and MIO+ models are no longer sold new in North America by any reputable seller. Hypermegasat sells the Edision Mini 4K, which does a good job on both Satellite and Terrestrial signals that are available in North America. See the link below if you are interested in it.

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    I looked the specs of this stb and must ask if its for sure it supports terrestrial out of the box or is that with a usb turner?

    Is it so that if I want a good North American experience I need the Edison stb?

    Is there a good website to learn about these different plugins and what they can do?
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    Correct me if I'm wrong...but I think the Mini is about the same as the Mio+ except with only a single tuner. The second tuner is handy for using the picture-in-picture feature or if you want to watch something on one tuner while recording on the other. A second tuner is handy if you have lots of dishes. But, for many, a single tuner would be totally adequate.
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    The Mio+ does have two satellite tuners but they are not the same. The MIO+ would have been a much better receiver if both satellite tuners would have been the same as tuner 1.
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    I don't understand the significance when you say "have been the same as tuner 1." And what's making them different?-
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilburSmith View Post
    I looked the specs of this stb and must ask if its for sure it supports terrestrial out of the box or is that with a usb turner?

    Is it so that if I want a good North American experience I need the Edison stb?

    Is there a good website to learn about these different plugins and what they can do?
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    Supported Hauppauge usb tuners work on the Edision MIO receivers. Most enigma2 images require the proper Hauppauge drivers to be installed from the feeds before the Hauppauge tuners will be recognized.

    Quote Originally Posted by WilburSmith View Post
    I don't understand the significance when you say "have been the same as tuner 1." And what's making them different?-
    Put simply, The MIO+ had 2 different DVB-S2 tuners installed from the factory. The second tuner is not as good as the first tuner. The point here is sort of moot because there is no known place to buy this receiver new from a reputable seller.

    There are not going to be good answers for some of your questions such as plugins because there is no particular website dedicated to enigma2 plugins. Almost all enigma2 plugins in .ipk format will have a description about their purpose or what they are supposed to do. As mentioned earlier, most plugins for enigma2 receivers are designed for Europe.

    Receiving satellite FTA channels is a Do-it-yourself hobby in North America. There comes a point in a hobby where you have to spend a bit of money to participate. No FTA receiver can work any better than the satellite antenna(s) it is connected to. There is plenty of information written on this site about the Edision MIO 4K and Mini 4K receivers. There is also information about the Octagon SF8008 written on this site. Research as much as you can, then make a purchase, Or Not!
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    If it isn't too much trouble, I still would like to hear about the tuner as the EDISION OS MIO+ 4K UHD can be had new for about $190.00. This makes it 2o bucks more than the OS Mini 4K. Which do you think is better choice.? From what I'm starting to understand and read is that the Edison stb is better because it has more firmware designed for it. IT also look like people are installing a firmware called TNAP. The NA in TNAP would'nt be for North America would it?

    UPDATE- I would not have asked the question above if I had realized there was a page two...Sorry!

    You have been great at providing info to me. I certainly appreciate it!

    Now to learn more about TNAP and the plugins I can use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilburSmith View Post
    If it isn't too much trouble, I still would like to hear about the tuner as the EDISION OS MIO+ 4K UHD can be had new for about $190.00. This makes it 2o bucks more than the OS Mini 4K. Which do you think is better choice.? From what I'm starting to understand and read is that the Edison stb is better because it has more firmware designed for it. IT also look like people are installing a firmware called TNAP. The NA in TNAP would'nt be for North America would it?

    UPDATE- I would not have asked the question above if I had realized there was a page two...Sorry!

    You have been great at providing info to me. I certainly appreciate it!

    Now to learn more about TNAP and the plugins I can use.
    Just let us know what kind of plugin you would like to use or see and we can let you know if it is possible. If you are looking for what is on android tv box then you probably wouldn't be completely satisfied but what I do is have both. An android google tv Chrome cast and an enigma2 satellite box. Enigma2 is cool software but not modern like android tv is. I like the Edision s2x 4k the best for the Blind scan option out of a few other brands I have tried out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilburSmith View Post
    If it isn't too much trouble, I still would like to hear about the tuner as the EDISION OS MIO+ 4K UHD can be had new for about $190.00. This makes it 2o bucks more than the OS Mini 4K. Which do you think is better choice.? From what I'm starting to understand and read is that the Edison stb is better because it has more firmware designed for it. IT also look like people are installing a firmware called TNAP. The NA in TNAP would'nt be for North America would it?

    I sort of get what you're asking. Because your feet aren't quite wet. Let's get down to brass tacks.
    I just tore apart two images for the mio4k+ and mini.

    The DVB-S2X tuners for both are identical.
    The mio4k+ give you 2 tuners. And 1 of them you may or may not wish to use. As indicated from EB

    The 4k+ gives you wifi, the mini has Ethernet only.
    The mio4k+ gives you an animated oled front display. The mini gives a 7 segment display.

    Firmware. It's all the same but different. TNAP was tuned to work for the USA because satellite reception of European sats. differs a bit from here.
    But don't think that if you experiment with another image that you'll not be able to receive, scan, or have a better or worse experience.

    You may even find that you like a different image better than another.

    Being Linux based you are able to take your scan and channels data files from one image to another. Example would be TNAP caught transponders that OpenViX missed.
    Open a "channel editor" with stored channels from one image. And transfer them to another. It's that easy.

    Now. For plugins. Try too not relate plugins for an Enigma 2 image as you would from iTunes, The Playstore, or The App Store.
    The same but different in ways. I have attached a file from an image containing all of the available plugins for it.
    Browse through it. Some are "in your face" as would be an app on another device. Others are in-the-background.

    There are other "sources" available you can select in the menu settings that may or may not be compatible with your image.
    Hell, there are even plugins that aren't even remotely compatible, buggy, or just plain can crash the system for the image they are listed to work with.
    And as you see. Many versions of the same plugin.
    There are even plugins that are user written for specific or cool things not in the system menu. Those can be found in different forums.

    You are able to make a snapshot backup of an image to restore it as it was if you happen to screw-up.

    So. Browse the list. If something catches your eye, copy and paste it into a browser search for more info.
    It could be a 3 or 4 pager. I see you're a lot like me. Getting your guns cleaned and loaded before the turkey shoot.





    UPDATE- I would not have asked the question above if I had realized there was a page two...Sorry!

    You have been great at providing info to me. I certainly appreciate it!

    Now to learn more about TNAP and the plugins I can use.
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