TNAP-5.1 Image Discussion

[eastof111]

I do not know why the encoding is up there, or what happens if a different encoding is used, or if No encoding is used. As long as everything runs OK, then do not worry about it. But if you have problems, try to remember the satellites.xml is not set the same as the build.

Slightly off topic....
I've been using the Vix supported site [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] for many years to create satellite,xml files. It provides both UTF-8 and iso8859-1 formats. Guessing the encoding header is for stb and dvb cards, there doesn't appear to be an explanation of difference in formats. See comparative xmls.

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There is also a good lamedb to satellite.xml converter tool one can use to compare a lamedb file to a satellite.xml file for missing items.

[ArloG]

Header from my satellites.xml:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!-- Created by E-Channelizer on 17 Feb, 2024 at 12:23 - [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] -->

Header from a blindscan:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>

No issues at all copying lines from a blindscan to your satellites.xml as long as indents line up perfectly.

[cyberham]

Start Dish Motor still doesn't work? The dish does not Move???...

...Moving the music channels is no big deal. They can be moved to 101w if you KNOW that is the new permanent location. This is not a hard thing to do.

Using Start Dish Motor, the dish definitely moves correctly. And blind scan works fine. Faster than ever actually. The only issue is the wrong dB reading in the Blind Scan screen that is displayed. Even if there is only one frequency listed for a satellite (e.g. 129W Reuters) then the displayed dB shows incorrectly. In this example, 2.67 dB displays when the actual SNR is 11.6 dB.

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For the Mood Music, if it's easy to change, then we can just wait until they aren't on 103W anymore.

[el bandido]

Interesting..... I wonder Why I get a similar signal on 129w. No Reuters for me!
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Like I said earlier, When you start the dish motor, the first transponder is tuned in the satellites.xml. There is not much of a way around this. If the signal is not working on one satellite, then it would reason other satellites have issues. So what other satellite besides 129w ku has a signal issue?

All transponders on 129 are very low signal for me. I do get "BEAM_SES15WB_W01_0029" which tells me I am on the satellite.

                         Scan Report 

< File created on Tuesday, May 07, 2024 at 02:37:06 > 
< Satellite =  129.0W Ku-band SES 15 >
< Receiver =  SF8008-Supreme >
< Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5.1 > 
< Kernel Version = 4.4.35 > 
< DVB Driver Date = 2024-01-04 > 
< Blindscan Frequency Range = 10700 to 12750 MHz > 
< Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps > 
< Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False  > 
< Tuner = Tuner B: AVL62X1 (DVB-S2) >


< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 10772H / 52542 / AUTO' > Tp# 1
< Transponder SNR =['2.77db'-Locked], LNB Power = 66.98 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:37:15 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 10887H / 52542 / AUTO' > Tp# 2
< Transponder SNR =['2.9db'-Locked], LNB Power = 72.48 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:37:23 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11056V / 34284 / 1/2' > Tp# 3
< Transponder SNR =['1.28db'-Locked], LNB Power = 66.06 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:37:30 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11056H / 30002 / 3/4' > Tp# 4
< Transponder SNR =['3.45db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 67.89 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:37:34 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11113H / 52093 / 1/2' > Tp# 5
< Transponder SNR =['3.2db'-Locked], LNB Power = 71.56 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:37:42 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11228H / 52093 / AUTO' > Tp# 6
< Transponder SNR =['4.79db'-Locked], LNB Power = 83.49 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:37:49 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11574V / 24998 / AUTO' > Tp# 7
< [1] BEAM_SES15WB_W01_0029 --- UnKnown Service Type E:  1:0:E:1E:1D:1:906AD36:0:0:0: SNR = 3.52  /> 
< [2] NoName  1:0:0:1:1D:1:906AD36:0:0:0: SNR = 3.52  /> 
< Transponder SNR =['3.52db'-Locked], LNB Power = 67.89 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:37:53 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11574H / 34283 / 1/2' > Tp# 8
< Transponder SNR =['2.43db'-Locked], LNB Power = 77.99 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:37:56 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11810V / 12000 / 1/2' > Tp# 9
< Transponder SNR =['655.22db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 66.06 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:38:04 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11846V / 5811 / 1/2' > Tp# 10
< Transponder SNR =['0.26db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 58.72 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:38:22 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 11861V / 1400 / 8/9' > Tp# 11
< Transponder SNR =['0.97db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 51.38 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:38:41 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 11978V / 7500 / 3/4' > Tp# 12
< Transponder SNR =['0.88db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 59.64 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:38:59 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 12003V / 8274 / AUTO' > Tp# 13
< Transponder SNR =['1.3db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 63.31 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:39:18 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12014V / 2272 / 3/4' > Tp# 14
< Transponder SNR =['2.66db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 56.88 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:39:36 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 QPSK 12022V / 4125 / AUTO' > Tp# 15
< Transponder SNR =['654.71db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 59.64 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:39:55 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12104V / 16728 / 3/4' > Tp# 16
< Transponder SNR =['0.37db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 64.22 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:40:03 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 8PSK 12122H / 17001 / 3/5' > Tp# 17
< Transponder SNR =['1.38db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 64.22 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:40:12 /> 

< 'DVB-S2 32APSK 12136V / 16726 / 3/4' > Tp# 18
< Transponder SNR =['1.38db'-UnLocked], LNB Power = 64.22 >
< Tue, 07 May 2024 02:40:20 /> < 

Blind Scan Time = 5 Min. 26 Sec.
2 Channels ( TV = 2  Radio = 0)  18 of 18 Transponders Scanned.

[cyberham]

Interesting..... I wonder Why I get a similar signal on 129w. No Reuters for me!

Like I said earlier, When you start the dish motor, the first transponder is tuned in the satellites.xml. There is not much of a way around this. If the signal is not working on one satellite, then it would reason other satellites have issues. So what other satellite besides 129w ku has a signal issue?

All transponders on 129 are very low signal for me. I do get "BEAM_SES15WB_W01_0029" which tells me I am on the satellite.

129W was just a simple example since I only blind scan in one transponder. And it is always strong. Here on the west coast 129W upper Ku is almost empty. Every satellite shows 2.67 dB when I use the Start Dish Motor feature. There was a time in the recent past when you first described this feature that it worked correctly on my receiver including the correct blind scan screen dB reading. What changed?

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[el bandido]

Dunno what changed. Lets find out.
Take one of your other image slots in the receiver and load the TNAP 5.1 image in the feed (Menu--->Setup--->Flash image) Do Not restore anything at all. After the image installs, do an online update. Then setup a couple or three satellites and see how things work.

These features such as motor start and showing signal in the blindscan plugin should work equal for everyone, provided the image is set correctly. The signal in the blindscan plugin works exactly as it should across both tuners in my system.

You are the only one that has showed any interest in this feature, so either you are the only one that blindscans with a motorized dish or no one else cares about it. The best solution may be to put the TNAP 5 blindscan plugin back in the 5.1 image and forget about it.

[ArloG]

Isn't 129W ku a DN DSS sat? And if so is should be circular polarization?
I could be wrong.

[cyberham]

Isn't 129W ku a DN DSS sat? And if so is should be circular polarization?
I could be wrong.

You're thinking of the old 129W. Now 129W SES15 has one linear Reuters transponder. See [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].

[cyberham]

Dunno what changed. Lets find out. ...

I loaded the current TNAP5.1 image fresh. Tested. Problem still there. I then started stepping back in time loading each image fresh. 0427: bad. 0412: Good! The feature works if I load 0412 with no updates. Then I online updated 0412: Bad.

[ArloG]

So what's wrong with just parking your dish on the sat that you wish to scan and doing it? That's how I've always done it.
Just like the dish aim tweaker plugin. I found that if you use it and it bumps the dish back and forth searching for the strongest signal.
It can screw up the rest of the reference counts for the rest of your stored positions. Having you going through and manually peaking signals and storing the new position.
Or just going into the dish controller and resetting the zero reference.
I'm all for sending the goto command and letting the dish stop. And then scanning. Crazy, ain't it!
"evly machine a-have it rimitation"