C2WPLL C-band LNBF

Hopefully Marv will see some performance gains from his Titanium lnb that will make the wait and being lied to worthwhile. I doubt I ever buy anything from Titanium because I think Brian Gohl is nothing more than a silver tongued crook! I wish him the best of luck selling fta receivers to pirates for theft of services. EB
 
Taking the money up front or taking Pre Orders allows the vendor to sell a product and have zero or very little money in the stock.
Let's be generous and say that the CW2PLL will cost Brian Gohl $5.00 a piece if purchased in builk and delivered to a single location on the West Coast. This means that for every lnb that he collects for in advance would allow him to pay for 11 lnbs without having to use any of his own money. If he could collect the money up front for 50 lnbs then he could pay for 550 lnbs without having to use a penny of his own money.
Additional money is collected up front for the CW2PLL because actual shipping cost to the customer is not $15.00! Brian makes a decent profit on the lnb and a small profit the shipping.

This same trick is used for fta receivers.
If you can collect $200.00 a piece for an Amiko A3 up front and you collect for 50 receivers, then you have $10,000.00 of other people's money. If the Amiko A3 cost you $40.00 a piece when delivered to a single location on the West Coast, then you have collected enough money up front to pay for 250 Amiko A3 receivers! So after you ship the first 50 receivers, you have satisfied the initial investment amount of $10,000.00 and the next 200 receivers you ship are pure profit! And you did all of this without using a penny of your own money!

IMO, having the customer pay up front is a dirty deal. The only person that benefits is the dealer and he is laughing at you all the way to the bank!

FTA receivers and lnbs are dirt cheap when purchased in bulk and shipped in bulk. I have looked in depth about purchasing fta products and can assure you the numbers I have used here are realistic numbers for what these fta products actually cost when purchased in bulk.
 
One of my 2 new lnbf arrived today. I picked this one up from a Canadian sat site that specialises in big dishes- tek2000.com. CL242:

INPUT FREQUENCY: 3.7-4.2 GHz
L.O. FREQUENCY:5.15 GHz 1 MHz
OUTPUT FREQUENCY: 950-2050 MHz
CONVERSION GAIN: 65 dB (TYP)
NOISE FIGURE: 15K
INPUT V.S.W.R: 2.5:1

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Spent the last 2 hours tinkering with the feed and even slapped on the CW1. The cl-242 and cw1 failed pathetically, the bsc422 will be staying there until my ps1 x2 lnbf arrives from Thailand. The 2 I tested yielded a signal quality loss of about 10-15%.
 
The CW1 is supposed to be about the same as the CW2.
I expected the CW1 to work as good as any other lnb, and maybe a bit better than dro lbs on skinny transponders. You may be able to return the CW1 if it does not perform well. I am sure that Brian Gohl would say it is defective if it is way down when compared to a dro lnb. He would either say it was defective, or he would say that the CW1 was not installed correctly.
 
I hear yea EB, good thing I got a refund as it was tested on a real glitchy tp on Intelsat 805 with 15% less signal quality then on my bsc422.

Just got lucky as my new Psi X2 lnbf arrived...I think I'll set my equipment back up and give it a test drive:

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Surprise, surprise. The Psi X2 from Thailand even managed to slightly outperform my bsc422 and I have decided to leave it there.
 
I Finally received my C2. Got it installed , Only checked a couple of satellites to compare readings. As far as I can tell it performed the same as the one I had . In fact on one tp it was 1 point lower on Q. But the Q changes during the day so can't say it was any worse.I had a Venus VLB-DUO412 on the dish. I'll let it go and see how it holds up. I think it is as good as anything out there. I just don't think it's any better. At least thats my thought. 65 db gain is 65 db gain.And if thats all thats there thats all your going to get..:computer-18:
 
Look down the throat or waveguide of the lnb and you will see two quarter wave dipoles, one for each polarity. There is not any db gain for a quarter wave dipole!
The 65 db gain refers to the line amplifier for the coax or feed line between the lnb and fta receiver. The small coax we use along with the switches and other things we put between the fta receiver and lnb have lots of loss n db.The 65 db of gain is to compensate for these items and does not represent satellite signal gain of the lnb because there is no db gain of a quarter wave dipole!
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