TNAP-6 Image Discussion

If you choose to start in SoftCam / CI
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OSCAM-EMU runs 2x
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If I turn off OSACM-EMU in SoftCam / CI,
OSCAM-EMU trigger bootlogo file requires a configuration directory /var/tuxbox/config (which is not created after installation)
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The solution would be to eliminate the launch of OSCAM file bootlogo
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and boot (run) oscam only through the Softcam / CI menu (file softcam.oscam-emu)
or
use OSCAM that has a compiled default configuration directory /etc/tuxbox/config or /usr/keys (in this case, however, the problem of two oscams is left at the same time)

Of course for experienced user this is no problem, but a newcomer could have a problem because Oscam-webinterface stores changes in only one existing directory
 
The clean install also includes lamedb which contains the MOOD radios. However, they are set to 102.9W/12145V.
Satellites.xml does not contain 102.9W and I think these radios are currently broadcasting at 101W/12000V.
But to the problem - the TV/Radio button on the remote control does not switch the list to Radio, while when you press the radio channel in the web interface, the channel is displayed.
 
The freearhey plugin has been reintroduced (enigma2-plugin-extensions-freearhey). This plugin along with an updated PlutoTV version are on the feeds now. To update, use Software update in receiver's menus or in telnet: opkg update && opkg upgrade && reboot

Server images are updated to: 07-20-2025 (UTC). Or see: tnapimages.com.
 
I need to ask. In TNAP 6. Just updated. It's using the TNAP MOD driver in an osmio4k.
On 107W I'm getting VSE1 4146V 1936 1/2 QPSK. Signal at 15.1 dB.

I went to do a blindscan. 3400-4200 and 01-60. Don't scan lamedb tp's.
The results are no transponders found.
Tuner driver maybe? I forgot how to get one of the alternates into it from the menus.

Playing around I narrowed the freq. range to 4140-4155, 01-03.
Scan MIS was on. Turned it off.
Don't scan lamedb turned red (off?). So it scans my satellites.xml?
Scan came up with frequency="4163000" symbol_rate="1937000".

One more try with Don't scan lamedb green. Meaning it won't?
No tp's found.

Did the same in openvix. Nothing found.

Ideas? 4164 is pretty strong. But everything turned Ray Charles on me.
 
You should be able to edit your posts in a reasonable amount of time.

I cannot get the 107W 4164V with enough signal to do anything with it. Probably out of the footprint for it, and a similar frequency om 105w does not help.

TNAP Blindscan Menu options:
3. **Only Free Scan**
- When enabled, only saves unencrypted (FTA) channels
- When disabled, saves both encrypted and unencrypted channels

4. **Filter Options**
- **Only scan unknown transponders**: Skip transponders already in satellites.xml
- **Don't scan lamedb transponders**: Skip transponders in the channel database
- **Filter out adjacent satellites**: Remove strong signals from nearby satellites
- Options: None, up to 1°, up to 2°, up to 3°

5. **MIS (Multiple Input Stream) Support**
- Available on supported hardware (e.g., Edision)
- Enable to scan MIS/multistream transponders
- Disable to speed up scanning in regions without MIS

So basically everything should be set to No for maximum results. However, I usually clear before scan, and usually search for MIS as shown below.

Blindscan Does Not use transponders in satellites.xml when searching. The only time satellites.xml is associated with the actual blindscan is as a filter. The actual blind search has nothing to do with lamedb or satellites.xml


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Checked on all of your suggestions. TNAP, ViX, ATV. Nothing. Strange.
Don't feel bad. Thanks for checking. I asked over on satguys to see if anyone could try it. Time will tell.
Just makes me wonder now how many "snags" I've missed when doing blindscans.
I have a few ideas. Maybe the receiver? Dig out those molasses-slow drivers that Edision sent me. Not sure of the kernel version nor even how to check.

How is the TNAP upper freq. range unlocked? Most images top you at 4200. So like that how would someone with a higher band lnbf cope?


Oh. Yeah. Am I blind? When I ht the post button here I'm gonna' check if I get an edit post option. Knowing me and my ways, you probably have it set to 30 seconds (or less). Hah!
 
See the Driver Selector Plugin. This has already been discussed in this thread. You may try the No T2M! driver as it scans different.
 
1) Thanks EB. Got it. Looks like some hands are a bit full with other things. I put the subject up on satguys. Got me wondering if I've been missing transponders in blindscans. I tried deleting the tp fro the sats.xml and from the lamedb file. Disabling using the sats.xml. All of the 'smart things'.
Only way to get the transponder is to punch the settings in signal finder. Then it pops in immediately and strong. Oh well. Keep plugging along, right?

2) Whyster. Not me. Probably a frain-bart. Where in the window do you edit a previous post. Mouse over on any visible options don't hint editing.

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In the lower left of the posting box, you will see edit and delete options for posts that are good for 20 minutes.

Edision 4K receivers do not depend on satellites.xml for blindscan, but the system does expect at least one transponder to be there.
In the blindscan menu, there are some options that can depend on satellites.xml or the transponders in lamedb. There have always been transponders that will not show on a blindscan, and probably always will for one reason or another.

Rick's forum is the absolute best place to ask about transponders or channels, but that is about all they know as most everyone else has been banned, censored, or deleted. Rick cares about Rick, but the few on his forum care about satellite and treat it as a hobby. So if you have a question about a satellite, transponder, or channel, you will probably get better results there. At one time in the past, that site had a lot of technical knowledge....

Also on the Edision 4K's, It's probably better just to leave the scan frequencies and symbol rates at default as shortening things up can cause you to miss things. Never figured out why, but I have seen other receivers are like that too.
 
Over on satguys Brct203 jumped in a did a test. Apparently is in fact not only the different drivers. But the image versions.
So there you have it. I mentioned that it's at least nice to know that my Edision might mot be taking a slow trip "South".

I'm not a terminal, command line guy so dvbsnoop is a bit engulfing. But it with a GUI would be cool.

I looked in openvix for a log. Not so good at logs either.
But looking at a blindscan My feeble mind tells me the it first scan's the frequency range assigned in the setup screen.
Logs them. Then there's a flash on the screen.
In each snagged frequency it then locks on to it and scans for sample rates. Again in the range set in from the setup screen.
Then compiles a list, displays it, and generates an .xml file and pops it in /tmp.

Since it's accepted that some low sample rate channels can take a little bit to actually pop-in when you tune to them.
It's easy to understand that you might have to "hammer" a blindscan a few times.
When satellite hunting. By bumping the dish in increments where you know a satellite might be but not quite sure.
Interpolation...125 clicks separate 2 degree satellites. So 125+ half of 125 for a 3 degree satellite. You know.

Frequencies can be snagged. And blindscan results shown. But tuning to them shows no signal, no lock. Bump the dish a little and hit a few dB and peak it in.

Low sample rate transponders. Okay, But the transponder on 107W when tuned manually pops in immediately. Lower than normal sr.
But immediately and strong. Setting TNAP to show below lock makes sense and is super nice to know is there.
It would make sense that those not-exactly-aimed satellites would benefit in a blindscan.

Just food for thought. No comments needed. Unless you're compelled. And no worries if you read back and find spelling and grammar errors before the edit period expires. I can read typonese. Haha!
 
Looks like the 107w satellite you are trying to get is only available for about 2 hours, 2 times a day. Why the interest in such is beyond my reasoning unless you are just trying to get something to blindscan. And it does blindscan for me, twice today. As mentioned earlier, TNAP 6 has the Driver Selector Plugin which allows you to change drivers. See installed plugins and maybe try a different driver. Non T2MI is what I normally use, but today, I used the TNAP mod driver. Success both times.

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" Why the interest in such is beyond my reasoning unless you are just trying to get something to blindscan."
I am also scanning this sat to use it as a beacon between 105w and 115W, as I sometimes have issues with ASC1 positioner.
 
Seems 111w C band would be a better choice as it is almost directly between 105w and 115w? 107W is retired and not available most of the 24 hour day, depending on your setup. Excellent though if you can find a use for 107w as I personally cannot unless something changes.

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el bandido said:
Seems 111w C band would be a better choice as it is almost directly between 105w and 115w? 107W is retired and not available most of the 24 hour day, depending on your setup. Excellent though if you can find a use for 107w as I personally cannot unless something changes.

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And 111.1W Anik F4 is new with a long future ahead. Check for the same VSE channel being discussed on 4110 H 7960. It was just under 8 dB when last measured in late June and should be there all the time.
 
Again. It's not why I want to scan it (107.3W). If I wanted to find it and knew there might be active transponders. Take, oh I don't know, 87W & 89W for instance. Like looking for those tasty wild feeds and cameras all around a ball field. Signal's there, can't scan for it. Well, actually you can. But not if Ray Charles is doing it for you. Yeah. Drivers, we can swap. Have anything to do with firmware in (what is it??) /lib/firmware?
 
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