OCTAGON SF8008 4K UHD E2

Rick Caylor now has the Sf8008 in Stock. This person loves to bash cheap fta receivers on Ebay and claims they do not go through customs. Yet he is doing the same thing he accuses others of doing! These SF8008 receivers have not been certified for sale in the United States. UL would never certify them because you have to use an adapter for the AC plug. Rick either needs to do things right, or he needs to quit bashing other sellers. Small quantities of fta receivers are not regulated. Any import costing $2500 or more pretty much requires a Broker, and is subject to more regulations.

There are only a few units left over from the pre-order list for this first order.

You can see the unit on my website here: http://www.rickssatelliteusa.com/SF8008.htm

We are selling them for $139.00 plus $15.00 shipping within the 48 Cont. United States.

USPS Priority Mail Shipping to Canada is Approx. $42.70 USD, but please send exact address to verify if interested and if you want to order, I can send an Invoice / e-mail from the Paypal system that will have a secure payment link to where you can pay by either Paypal or CC.

One note... These units come with a Euro Plug on the Power Supply. So we will include a US adapter. We are looking into getting some US Plug Power Supplies for them, but that will increase the cost by around 10.00 to 15.00 if we do this. This is what we did for the SX88 Octagon units, as I personally prefer not to use the plug adapters, but we do's what we got's to do.
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He wants to raise the price to do it right. LoL... Power supplies cost a couple of dollars. Not 10 or 15 dollars.
 
I was just informed that the Ustym 4K PRO is up for sale now and the price is 130.00 dollars delivered, now I just wonder which receiver would be the best to buy between this one and the Edision Mio 4K.
Regards.
Chewie
 
el bandido said:
Rick Caylor now has the Sf8008 in Stock. This person loves to bash cheap fta receivers on Ebay and claims they do not go through customs. Yet he is doing the same thing he accuses others of doing! These SF8008 receivers have not been certified for sale in the United States. UL would never certify them because you have to use an adapter for the AC plug. Rick either needs to do things right, or he needs to quit bashing other sellers. Small quantities of fta receivers are not regulated. Any import costing $2500 or more pretty much requires a Broker, and is subject to more regulations.



He wants to raise the price to do it right. LoL... Power supplies cost a couple of dollars. Not 10 or 15 dollars.
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Ricks looking to sucker punch his followers again.
 
No one has the uClan Ustym or the Edision Mio, so it would be hard to say which is better. Those that have tested the SF8008 against the Edision Nino Pro say the Nino Pro has a noticeable advantage in blindscan. That is the only information we have.

I don't think Rick is trying to sucker punch anyone, but he is doing exactly the same thing the cheap Ebay sellers are doing. Overall, his price of the SF4008 is not too bad unless he raises it. Rick does not support or understand the enigma2 community, and I doubt that changes. OpenATV is a great German image, but it is not designed really for use in North America. None of the feature development such as blindscan, ATSC, or Software Defined Radio is done in the OpenATV image group. If you are only concerned about money, then the enigma2 image you give your customers does not matter.
 
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I saw that and they claim they have a 2 DVB-S2X tuner coming out in Feb 2019, I ask uClan if they also have a single tuner, we'll see what they say, I just don't trust Octagon any more I rather buy something else.
 
The problems I experienced with the Octagon SF4008 will have a lasting effect! I am not interested in getting anything else from them, especially when others have the same product!

Two Good DVB-S2X tuners that have a decent or exceptional blindscan is what I want. Also an internal hard drive is needed. It will probably be at least the middle of 2019 before I find such a receiver.
 
Octagon is spamming World of Satellites and some other forums with this:
In the December issue, the satellite magazine Digital TV has put the Octagon SF8008 through its paces extensively. The test result "very good" confirms the commercial success of the second UHD / 4K receiver from Octagon. What the combo receiver scored in the test and with which features he was able to convince the editors in detail, you will learn in this blog article.
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https://www.satking.de/octagon-sf8008-test

Octagon SF8008 was very good in the test
In the December issue, the satellite magazine Digital TV has put the Octagon SF8008 through its paces extensively. The test result "very good" confirms the commercial success of the second UHD / 4K receiver from Octagon. What the combo receiver scored in the test and with which features he was able to convince the editors in detail, you will learn in this blog article.

At the end of September 2018 , Octagon launched its second 4K / UHD receiver , the SF8008 combo receiver . The editors of the trade magazine Digital TV have looked at the SF8008 closely and awarded the test result "very good". The test evaluated, among other things:

equipment
commissioning
the regular operation
the built-in tuners
multimedia features
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Octagon SF8008 - More waysawers, because successors
"In general, the new SF8008 has nothing in common with its supposed predecessor," says digital television, evaluating the first impression and the built-in technology of the second Octagon 4K receiver. The fact that the SF8008 is fundamentally different from the Octagon SF4008 is already evident when looking at the installed hardware. The Octagon SF8008 features a new Huawei Hi3798MV200 Hisilicon processor and twice the amount of flash memory at 8 gigabytes. Furthermore put 1 gigabyte of DDR4 RAM under the hood. As a combo receiver, the SF8008 has a DVB-S2X capable Si2166D tuner and an Altobeam ATBM7821 tuner for receiving via DVB-C and DVB-T2.

Another special feature in terms of interfaces according to digital television are the two retractable WLAN antennas. These round off the connection diversity of the Octagon SF8008 with the HDMI connection, the MicroSD card reader, the two USB ports (USB 2.0 & USB 3.0), the CA slot, the jack connection and the S / PDIF output.
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Popular Linux operating system and uncomplicated commissioning
By default, the extremely popular and adaptive Linux E2 OpenATV image is preinstalled. This allows the range of functions to be constantly expanded, optimized and supplemented. Thus, in addition to the "numerous multimedia functions", which are available from the factory, also install eg Kodi, Stalker and many more plugins.

A compulsion to use the OpenATV image, but not: "Of course the user also has the option to use additional images, such as the Openeight image, in the SF8008." In the test, the OpenATV image nevertheless convinced the specialist editors of digital television. So the initial setup was as usual quickly gone by the hand and the WLAN integration was uncomplicated in the initial setup.
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The 4K / UHD receiver in regular operation
As the test progressed, the digital television editors reviewed how the Octagon SF8008 can handle classic positions. For this an ideally for the German speaking area furnished transmitter list was used. The switching had been realized quickly thanks to the Huawei's Hisilicon processor and the EPG had been useful in various views. In addition, recordings can also be programmed via the USB 3.0 or the USB 2.0 port, of course, an external storage medium is required.
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What do the tuners of the combo receiver do?
The focus has put digital television in the test on the connection with rotating equipment and the reception of exotic satellite signals (DXen). So in the first step, the operation was tested with a DiSEqC 1.2 USALS turntable and a satellite dish : "the 120 cm antenna on it leaves a lot of room in the test."

After the handling of the Octagon SF8008 with a DiSEqC turning system turned out to be completely regular and the operation with a V-Box had been unproblematic, the editors tightened the test conditions in the second step and took a close look at the handling of non-everyday signals. For this purpose, first the DVB-S2X reception was tested at 33 degrees East: "This prepares the Octagon receiver no problems", as the editors noted. With the multi-stream reception at 5 degrees West, the Octagon SF8008 handled the situation very well - he was able to track down all packages right away. Regarding handling small symbol rates between 940 and 285 megasymbols, the SF8008 still needs to be improved - which Octagon will certainly not let up with one of the next updates.
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Hardwareblindscan - Which transponder does the Octagon SF8008 detect?
The Octagon SF8008 is one of the few DVB-S2X receivers that have a hardware blindscan. In the test, the editorial board has selected the highest sensitivity, filtered out adjacent satellites and subsequently started the blind scan of the Octagon SF8008 on Türksat 42 degrees East. "In just two minutes, the box detects 76 transponders on the position", so the result of the test. The user can then decide for himself which transponder he wants to scan for transmitters - in the test of digital television, these were 654 channels.

With this high number of transmitters, the scan of the Octagon SF8008 is significantly better than that of competing models such as the Axas HIS 4K or the Edision OS nino pro . In order to substantiate the result, another test was carried out on position 3 degrees East. Basically, the Octagon SF8008 transponder with more than 2000 megasymbols is very reliable and the result in detecting those with 1000 - 1999 mega symbols is satisfactory.
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Conclusion and test result
Digital TV has awarded the Octagon SF8008 a grade of "very good". High scores reached the 4K combo receiver especially in the criteria of installation, operation, display and decoding. Basically, the test has thus underpinned the success of the second Octagon 4K / UHD receiver. The manufacturer takes advantage of the success, rather than resting on its laurels, and has now released a variation of the Octagon SF8008 with a DVB-S2X tuner and at a lower price - the Octagon SF8008 single satellite receiver .
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Huawei's CFO was arrested in Canada Dec 1st, on behalf of the U.S., so Meng could be extradited to “face unspecified charges” in the Eastern District of New York. Huawei is the supplier of the Hisilicon processor.

Maybe for future reference Rick should recheck his import customs docs to be sure they are properly filled out.
LOL....
 
It looks like some sf8008 owners thought ATSC would magically appear and work in the OpenATV image? They have no clue. It will have to be added...
https://rickcaylor.websitetoolbox.com/post/octagon-sf8008-9950453

Apparently, Rick could care less and will let someone else worry about it.
Hi Arion,

I think Bogie is referring to setting up an external USB OTA ATSC Tuner. Bogie is very creative! I am sure he will check back in and let us know.

Thanks,

Rick
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What benefit is there from buying a fta receiver from Rick Caylor? It looks like we are better off buying directly from Europe.
 
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As the old saying goes.... it takes a village to solve the problem... LOL

If the hard core members there would post their sf8008 problems in some other forums, i.e., PLI, SDG, ATV, etc., they might get their problems resolved much quicker.

The only advantage I see ordering from Rick, is that he will stand by his sale should something go south with the product. This to me is more advantageous even if I do have to pay a higher price. This eliminates having to deal with emails or phone calls and shipping over the pond.

Plus, with Rick ordering products in bulk from across the pond, will at least attract some attention with the suppliers rather then individual N.A. purchases. I hope.
 
The hard core or any other member would not really need to post on another forum if proper support was being provided. Most other forums do not understand the issues in North America to begin with, and the people that are doing the posting really have no idea how to explain things so they can be easily understood on other forums.

It would be nice to order products here in North America, but I see little if any reason or incentive to do so. Electronic equipment like fta receivers does not have a high failure rate. I have yet to receive one receiver that was ordered from outside the United States that did not work on arrival. None have been Dead On Arrival, and I have been ordering fta receivers from outside the United States for at least 7 years now.

Enigma2 receiver support is not hard to provide, unless you are only interested in making money..
 
"The hard core or any other member would not really need to post on another forum if proper support was being provided." Don't really see that happening with Rick's site or any other local forum currently.

"Electronic equipment like fta receivers does not have a high failure rate." Unless you buy inexpensive units which are prone to raise the odds of failure.

In regards to failed receivers... Recently ordered a receiver via ebay that advertised as shipping from LAX. Over two weeks later I received the unit and and figured the delay was due to the holidays. I was quite surprised to see a return shipping label with a China address. So much for advertising honesty.

Played with the unit for about a week and then it failed to boot. Tried original vendor forum plus googling for answers with no results.

Emailed seller and requested new unit or a refund. Received suggestions to try new cables, unplug/replug, change batteries in r/c, replace p/s, etc. Including some suggestions which were ridiculous.

After more emails, got fed up and called Amex and explained the situation and they credited my account on the spot. A week later both ebay and paypal finally emailed indicating case was closed.

At this point I would still buy a receiver if it is available at a known U.S. vendor. Doing this hopefully shows to the overseas supplier that there is an fta market in the U.S. I prefer to keep the bucks here rather than reward someone else that I do not know regarding returns. The fta U.S. market is stagnant at this point, but at least the current U.S. vendors are still in business.

Sending suggestions of what you think would help sell to your U.S. vendor might assist them in staying in business a while longer and maybe improve the fta scene. If they are determined to continue business as usual, they deserve to go belly up and we all lose.
 
There is alot of ebay sellers that don't really even have the product. After you order from them they order it and have it sent to you. I got stuff that was ordered on ebay and shipped from amazon before. I don't like resellers half the time I order it then they can't get it so they just issue a refund saying after you ordered we sold out but yet when the order was placed it showed plenty available.
 
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There is alot of ebay sellers that don't really even have the product. After you order from them they order it and have it sent to you. I got stuff that was ordered on ebay and shipped from amazon before. I don't like resellers half the time I order it then they can't get it so they just issue a refund saying after you ordered we sold out but yet when the order was placed it showed plenty available.
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Not only that, they lie about location..I needed a tool for my car and ordered from ebay since they said item was in Calgary where I live, so I figured..great I'll get it in a couple of days at most.
NOT.........It came from China 5 weeks later..lmfao
 
It is not a good idea to buy fta receivers or any other electronic devices from Ebay because it is often used as a dump for rejects. So I am not really surprised to hear a fta receiver purchased from Ebay failed to work.

I have spent a lot of time getting features to work correctly on enigma2 receivers in North America. My contributions on the hard stuff such as adding usb devices has been limited to debugging. I find it disgusting that someone wants to make money from the sale of enigma2 receivers, but is too damn lazy to do any work to make the product perform on our terrestrial services.
 
"too damn lazy to do any work to make the product perform on our terrestrial services."

Could be he just has a myopic view of receivers and only sees fta or $$$, but at least for now he has dipped his toe in E2 waters. More so than other dealers.
 
You could actually buy a SF8008 from Rick. I am sure he would appreciate the monetary support. I do not see the SF8008 as being a bad receiver, but it does have a different architect for the chipset. So it may take some time and Effort to get things working correctly.
 
"You could actually buy a SF8008 from Rick".... and use it for a door stop?

Still need four tuners like the Duo2.

A = bud B = open C = fixed ku dishes D = motorized ku dish.

Thinking of adding another motorized dish to B since I don't have room for another bud.
 
More of the blind leading the blind. Where do these guys get their setup information from? Maybe ask Huevos since he wrote the code for the blindscan plugin?

https://rickcaylor.websitetoolbox.com/post/octagon-sf8008-ku-blindscan-9956462


Here is what user Defined Settings for a 10750 lnb should look like:
LOF/L = 10750
LOF/H =10750
Treshold = 10750
22KHz tone = OFF

Other settings may work, but the person who wrote the code says what is listed above should be used.
 
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