AB-COM Pulse 4K Enigma2 FTA Receiver

Glad it arrived ok. Hope you can get the second tuner to blind scan.

What do you mean by "Heroes, Decades, and Start TV are not "mixing" tonight on 101w c band."?
 
The second tuner blindscans.
Many receivers cannot keep the Weigel channels such as Heroes and Decades properly separated. These channels will mix with Decades becoming Heroes or Heroes becoming Decades. When this happens, you end up with two channels displaying the same thing. I am surprised you do not know about this.
 
The second tuner blindscans.
Many receivers cannot keep the Weigel channels such as Heroes and Decades properly separated. These channels will mix with Decades becoming Heroes or Heroes becoming Decades. When this happens, you end up with two channels displaying the same thing. I am surprised you do not know about this.
So the plug and play tuner has the same spec as the built in tuner? What is the max SR? Looks to be the same kernel as the Mutant 60 that also has DMM blind scan.
 
The second tuner blindscans.
Many receivers cannot keep the Weigel channels such as Heroes and Decades properly separated. These channels will mix with Decades becoming Heroes or Heroes becoming Decades. When this happens, you end up with two channels displaying the same thing. I am surprised you do not know about this.

I thought this problem was rectified a very long time ago.... didn't know this problem still existed or returned to create havoc with some tuners. Good to know though.
 
The Wiegel channel problem on 101w c band has never really been rectified, resolved, or fixed. Some receivers have problems with these channels at times, while others do not.

Both DVB-S2X tuners appear to be the same. Shown below are the tuner specs.

pulse 4K tuners_20210903153214.webp<----------------->pulse 4k tuner-info_20210903153311.webp
 
The second tuner blindscans.

Many receivers cannot keep the Weigel channels such as Heroes and Decades properly separated. These channels will mix with Decades becoming Heroes or Heroes becoming Decades. When this happens, you end up with two channels displaying the same thing. I am surprised you do not know about this.


In my case on my Mio, running TNAP 4.0, (all the older TNAP's had the same issue though) I've had issues where when I try to tune in the Movies channel, Start West comes up instead. Annoying when it's a timer that's set, and you don't find out until you try to watch the recording sometime later. This happened very frequently, and ONLY these two channels "mix".

Anyway, I seem to have finally solved it by changing (moving) Movies from it's normal 3928 to 3927 H DVB-S QPSK 2734-5/6. The receiver now properly brings up Movies channel every time, when I have a timer set for it.

I simply deleted the 3928 entry for Movies, and did a Manual scan with the parameters of: 3927 H DVB-S QPSK 2734-5/6. It locked it there just as well, and apparently even just the 1Mhz difference to the far side away from Start West, was enough to make the difference. So, now it's effectively 5Mhz away from Start West, instead of only 4Mhz.

Yes, that means it's only 3Mhz away from Decades, BUT, that channel never interferes with Movies for whatever reason.

Anyway, I say all this in case it may help some people with this issue, as it worked for me.
 
Received a reply to my emails....

Dear sir,

the blind scan needs some improvements for Ku band and needs to be added for C band completelly there in the Open Pli image.
PULSe 4K has two DVB-S2X tuners at the maximum (it doesn´t have three tuners), just to have the clear info.

Thank you so much.
Best Regards/S pozdravom,

Martin Durinsky
Service Technician
 
I got similar reply from AB-COM about DVB-S2 blindscan today. Offers to assist with blindscan have been made. Let's give them the opportunity to make the needed corrections.
And I should have clarified the number of tuners. I thought the second tuner had two DVB-S2X but in reality it has One DVB-S2X port and One Loop Out.
 
I am very glad to hear they are open to assisting with corrections or maybe even some improvements. No third tuner is disappointing though.
 
We will have to see if anything is actually done. Talk is easy.

Here is a list of makes/models/brands where we tried to get help with blindscan:

Vu+ No communication. Would not reply to messages or emails. No 22 KHz tone control in blindscan- Vu+ Zero 4K.

Sundtek Unable to fix poor blindscan in DVB-S2 usb tuner.

Zgemma Uninterested in adding blindscan to internal tuner that supports blindscan. Said blindscan is for more expensive box.

GigaBlue Advertises blindscan for the UE in Machine Features. Suggests using autoscan instead of blindscan because blindscan is broken.

So after all of this and several hundred dollars later, I am unimpressed when someone says they will fix blindscan. They have to actually do it.
 
Here is an updated list of makes/models/brands where we tried to get help with blindscan:

AB-COM Blames "the producer of the box" when discussing blindscan problems with their Flagship model, PULSe4K. AB-COM should have known for many months that the blindscan is broken in the PULSe4K series of receivers. The blindscan in the PULSe4K barely works. A few transponders will be found during a blindscan if you are lucky. Usually none of the transponders that are found will return any channels. So the feature is useless.

Vu+ No communication. Would not reply to messages or emails. No 22 KHz tone control in blindscan- Vu+ Zero 4K.

Sundtek Unable to fix poor blindscan in DVB-S2 usb tuner.

Zgemma Uninterested in adding blindscan to internal tuner that supports blindscan. Said blindscan is for more expensive box.

GigaBlue Advertises blindscan for the UE in Machine Features. Suggests using autoscan instead of blindscan because blindscan is broken.
 
Shown below is what the PULSe4K found for a blindscan of 97w ku band.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>

<!--
File created on Wednesday, 27 of October 2021, 23:00:48
using pulse4k receiver running Enigma2 image, version 2021-09-30-develop,
image Tnap hardknott, with the Blind scan plugin

-->

<satellites>
<sat name="97.0W Ku-band Galaxy 19" flags="0" position="2630">
<transponder frequency="11827999" symbol_rate="22002000" polarization="0" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1"/>
<transponder frequency="11848380" symbol_rate="22475000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="2"/>
<transponder frequency="11904020" symbol_rate="22001000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1"/>
<transponder frequency="11953828" symbol_rate="22002000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1"/>
<transponder frequency="11996361" symbol_rate="14001000" polarization="0" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="1"/>
<transponder frequency="12060389" symbol_rate="22002000" polarization="0" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1"/>
<transponder frequency="12091322" symbol_rate="22001000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1"/>
<transponder frequency="12128350" symbol_rate="22002000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1"/>
<transponder frequency="12164198" symbol_rate="22501000" polarization="0" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="2"/>
<transponder frequency="12185039" symbol_rate="23001000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1"/>
</sat>
</satellites>

All FEC's are set to 0, which might be ok if the tuner is set to auto-detect. But the PULSe4K does not seem to be set to auto-detect.
Also note the frequencies and symbol rates. There are errors....

https://www.lyngsat.com/Galaxy-19.html
 

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Correct. No satellite blindscan improvements. The PULSe 4K does not have a working satellite blindscan suitable for use in North America. Could it be made to work? Possibly. But no one is interested in working to improve it. My PULSE 4k sat in a room for a while where it was used as a non-scanning fta receiver. Then part of the display quit. It now sits unused. On a scale of 1 to 10 rating with 10 being the best, I would give my PULSe 4K a 2 or 3. Nothing more than a 2015 box reintroduced as "New" 5 years later...
 
The SF8008 Supreme is an updated or "warmed over" version of the previous SF8008. The only real difference in the two Sf8008 models is satellite tuner or demod, and the ability to have internal hard drive(SSD). The kernel for the sf8008's is a 2016 model. Apparently Octagon or the real maker of the box was too lazy to update the kernel, figuring it would sell the same I guess.

The PULSe 4K has the same blindscan design as the DreamBox One model.
Blindscan works correctly, and is fairly decent in the DreamBox One. The Blindscan Plugin is nothing more than an interface for the blindscan feature in the receiver. It may be possible to improve the PULSe blindscan by improving the blindscan plugin module the PULSe 4K uses. There are two blindscan modules in the blindscan plugin. The blindscan plugin module is different for the SF8008. So you may be able to work on the Pulse 4 K blindscan module and get some sort of performance increase for the PULSe 4K. But No One wants to do it....
 
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