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el bandido said:
You give me the same thing. There is no Blindscan information in the log. A blindscan of the satellite has to be performed while the log is running:
init 4
ENIGMA_DEBUG_LVL=5 enigma2 > /tmp/enigma.log 2>&1
BlindScan The problem Satellites
Then...
Attach the enigma.log file that will be generated to a post here. Log will be in /tmp of receiver files.
Blindscan has to be done while the log is running.
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run the command, then perform the scan and here is the log.
 

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Is this the transponder? I've now added more points and lowered it to about 4070. True.

[eDVBFrontend0] prepare_sat System 0 Freq 4070000 Pol 0 SR 30000000 INV 2 FEC 0 orbpos 2589 system 0 modulation 1 pilot 2, rolloff 3, is_id -1, pls_mode 1, pls_code 0,
 
Hi Bandido, could i just add more info at the Nfusion's problem.

I know because i am having the exact same problem

I have 2 receivers: Edision Os Mio+ 4K and Octagon SF8008 Supreme twin version 3

As you know
Edision: Availink
Octagon: Silabs

Both receivers TNAP6

At satellite 101w Edision receiver's blind scan is perfect, not a single bug or error.

Problem here is the Octagon, every time i do a blindscan at 101w, i didnt get the MGM channels at 4060 H 30000, why? idk

Why i know is that if i perform a transponder blindscan, the octagon download this specific transponder as 4066 H 30000, most of the time as 4066, sometimes as 4065, and some other times as 4067 or as high as 4070, and when the blind scan goes to the step number 2 that is getting channels from transponders, when its time to download channels from 4066 H 30000 it does nothing, not a single MGM channel is downloaded it just skip this tp in particular and we got no MGM channels at all.

But if i perform a Manual scan, using the correct frequency 4060 H 30000, boom! i get all MGM channels, every time.

Now just for the record, i know different tuners, sometimes, give different frequency or tps, i mean, for example in Edision i have the MTV tp as 4100 H 30000 and Octagon the same MTV tp as 4101 H 30000. One extra point does not make a difference at all, i still got all channels on this tp on Edision 4100 and Octagon at 4101, the problem is when Octagon adds more than 5 points i guess? to the transponder, on the MGMs at 101w most of the time octagon add 6 additional points (4066 H) and that translates to zero channels downloaded at blindscan just in this particular tp.

I know you could say just perform a Manual Scan, download those MGM channels and problem solved, but, i do a lot of blind scanning almost every day, and its kind of annoying doing manual scan all the time, knowing that Edision OS Mio+ works great on every satellite blindscan.

Is there anything Bandido that you could fix in TNAP6 specifically for the Octagon SF8008 v3 that could solve this problem?
 
el bandido said:
This is what I do not understand:
Is this the transponder? I've now added more points and lowered it to about 4070. True.

Download, Install, and test OpenPli 7.3-Stable release from here: https://openpli.org/download/octagon/SF8008/

The driver may be different in that image as it is from year 2023. Test it on blindscan..
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The same problem is perhaps a bug or it is already a defect of the Tuner Silab
Low as.,,,, And do not download the channels
4069H30000
 

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RamboHack said:
Hi Bandido, could i just add more info at the Nfusion's problem.

I know because i am having the exact same problem

I have 2 receivers: Edision Os Mio+ 4K and Octagon SF8008 Supreme twin version 3

As you know
Edision: Availink
Octagon: Silabs

Both receivers TNAP6

At satellite 101w Edision receiver's blind scan is perfect, not a single bug or error.

Problem here is the Octagon, every time i do a blindscan at 101w, i didnt get the MGM channels at 4060 H 30000, why? idk

Why i know is that if i perform a transponder blindscan, the octagon download this specific transponder as 4066 H 30000, most of the time as 4066, sometimes as 4065, and some other times as 4067 or as high as 4070, and when the blind scan goes to the step number 2 that is getting channels from transponders, when its time to download channels from 4066 H 30000 it does nothing, not a single MGM channel is downloaded it just skip this tp in particular and we got no MGM channels at all.

But if i perform a Manual scan, using the correct frequency 4060 H 30000, boom! i get all MGM channels, every time.

Now just for the record, i know different tuners, sometimes, give different frequency or tps, i mean, for example in Edision i have the MTV tp as 4100 H 30000 and Octagon the same MTV tp as 4101 H 30000. One extra point does not make a difference at all, i still got all channels on this tp on Edision 4100 and Octagon at 4101, the problem is when Octagon adds more than 5 points i guess? to the transponder, on the MGMs at 101w most of the time octagon add 6 additional points (4066 H) and that translates to zero channels downloaded at blindscan just in this particular tp.

I know you could say just perform a Manual Scan, download those MGM channels and problem solved, but, i do a lot of blind scanning almost every day, and its kind of annoying doing manual scan all the time, knowing that Edision OS Mio+ works great on every satellite blindscan.

Is there anything Bandido that you could fix in TNAP6 specifically for the Octagon SF8008 v3 that could solve this problem?
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This is a driver problem and has nothing to do with the enigma2 image. The problem exists in the finding of the transponders, not in the processing of the transponders, and this is why it is most likely a driver type problem.

Let's turn your SF8008 v3 into an Ustym4kpro. Let's see if the problem exist there. Fair WARNING: This procedure may cause you to reload the slot, so know how to recover the receiver from a corrupted slot or Do Not do this! I have used this procedure on Octagon and Ustym without errors, be prepared just in case!

We want to delete /lib/modules/4.4.35/extra folder and replace it with the attached extra folder. Here is the procedure:
(1) Download attached extra.zip and unzip it. Place it in a folder or some other known location on your computer. (Maybe put the unzipped folder inside a folder named ustym.)
(2) Open up a terminal and telnet into the SF8008 v3. send init 4 to stop enigma2.
(3) Navigate to /lib/modules/4.4.35/ and copy the extra folder to your computer. Put it in a location where it is accessible. (Maybe make a folder named sf8008 and copy the extra folder into it.)
(4) Delete the extra folder from the receiver and replace it with the unzipped extra folder you downloaded.
(5) In terminal, enter this command: chmod +x load Next, type ls -la and verify load is executable (green), Then type reboot.



When the receiver reboots, it will be displayed as Ustym4kPro. You may verify this in the About page of the receiver. Now test blindscan and see if the problem still exists.

If there is a problem, simply telnet back into the receiver, and again use init 4 to stop enigma2, then replace the extra folder with the original one for the SF8008.

The file system for the SF8008 and Ustym4kPro are almost identical. This procedure will work, but whether or not it solves the blindscan issue remains to be seen.
 

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Thank you Bandido for your help, i did all the steps you mentioned, after reboot i went to performed a blind scan and gave me this error: Not found blind scan utility 'usr/bin/uclan-blindscan'!

Double check every step you gave me, tried it again, and same result. So went back to original extra folder and everything worked again, obviously no MGM channels,still blidn scan detect this tp as 4066 H instead of 4060 H.screenshot_20250625180245.webp
 
My apologies. I forgot a file. Do it again. Then, Unzip attached file and put uclan-blindscan into /usr/bin of receiver files. Then in telnet:
cd /usr/bin
chmod +x uclan-blindscan
Then enter ls -la and verify uclan-blindscan is green for executable, or look at the permissions and verify it is executable.

Blindscan will or Should work after this if it is done correctly. (No reboot or restart needed to add the blindscan binary.) Another note is the remote keys might act funny because they are now mapped for Uclan. If needed use OpenWebif by typing the ip of the box into a computer browser that is on the same network. You should be familiar with WebIF.

The idea here is Not to change your SF8008 to Uclan, The idea is to see if the same problem exists in the Uclan Si2166D driver! If this fixes it, we may can then look for some sort of solution.

Note:
You can either delete or leave this in /usr/bin when you change back to Octagon drivers. It will not hurt anything for uclan-blindscan to be in /usr/bin.
 

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Once again, thank you Bandido for all your help.

Now blindscanning is working fine after additional steps you gave me, but MGM channel's problem still persist :(

Still same problem, instead of getting 4060 H 30000 it downloads as 4066 H 30000 hence no Mgm channels at all.

Same problem appears to be in tp 4100 H 30000 but here blindscan download this tp as 4183 H 30000 and got all channels from this transponder, same with 4100 H 30000 4103H 30000 and got all channels also, seems like 3 additional extra points to any Tp the receiver "thinks" its OK and get all channels, but 6 additional points like the 4066 H mgm tp, and reciever says "NO" ..... "No Channels for You" like Jerry Seinfeld Soup haha.

Anyway, this confirms what you said before, this is a driver problem, and the only one that could fix this is Silabs Company, but i dont think they care too much about this problem anymore, they stopped updating drivers for this tuner back in 2021 i guess.... So i think we are screwed :( I dont know why Octagon company still using this tuners knowing all this problems they have, The use it in Octagon v1, then change to availink in version2 and now back to Silabs in this version3. Thank god i still have my Edision Os Mio+ 4K, this is really THE KING OF RECEIVERS as of today, i dont know why they stopped manufacturing this model. 2Gb of RAM versus 1GB in the Octagon makes a HUGE difference!!! , lets hope next year Octagon Version 4 comes with Availink tuners again and 2 GB of RAM.

Thank you Bandido, i really appreciate all your help, you are truly a FTA hobbyist, and some day, i wanna be like you :)

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After a long time, I try to start tsduck on mio4k+, but for my surprise I got this message: not installed !!!
So, I removed it & reinstalled, but same message, with 1 exception when after many reinstallation I turned on "start automatically" setting & pressed green (save) button: image crashed & box rebooted.
same issue at my friend's mini4k !
Is there any new version of tsduck ?
 

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Post in thread 'SErviceScan TSDuck Integration'

manual start TSDuck
Code: 
root@sf8008:~# tsp
tsp: error while loading shared libraries: libtsduck.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
root@sf8008:~# tsanalyze
tsanalyze: error while loading shared libraries: libtsduck.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
root@sf8008:~# tsversion
tsversion: error while loading shared libraries: libtsduck.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

after change atributes
Code: 
-rwxr-xr-x    1 0        0         1802112 Mar 09  2018 libtscore.so.3.41-4213
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We are going to remove TSDuck from the main image build until it can be looked at in detail. A non-command line TSDuck scan is a very complex and difficult project for a fta receiver. Thanks for testing it.
 
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