TNAP-7 Image Discussion
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el bandido
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The 0405 image has been uploaded and contains several updates. Re-flash the image for best results.
An online update may not get all of the updates.
You want to display in signal finder like VIX which is fine, but this is a skin issue and would need edits for each skin that is not VIX. The information wanted is already generated. The skin just needs to be adjusted to show it.
The 101w Mood music channels load properly and work for myself and others. I do not know what needs to be fixed in the 101w Mood music channels without more information. The pids for the Mood music channels are correct.
An online update may not get all of the updates.
The language and radio display during a scan should be fixed.
Editing bouquets in webif should be fixed. The 4 bouquets you uploaded were tested to work.
Adding the firmware is possible, but not right now as there is other work to do.
You want to display in signal finder like VIX which is fine, but this is a skin issue and would need edits for each skin that is not VIX. The information wanted is already generated. The skin just needs to be adjusted to show it.
What image does not display Picons? You uploaded a debug log but showed a crash log in the screenshot. Debug logs are no longer generated so the image was probably a bit old. Anyway, try the new image and see if the Picon issue is fixed. If not, then upload the crash log. Thanks
Signal finder has been rebuilt. Test for effects...
Your crash that was shown in Network has been addressed.
The 101w Mood music channels load properly and work for myself and others. I do not know what needs to be fixed in the 101w Mood music channels without more information. The pids for the Mood music channels are correct.
I flashed the new 0405 image and restored from backup. I loaded the four problem bouquets. I can still see all bouquets via webif.
el bandido
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TNAP 7 is close to being complete. I am looking for any crashes, hangs, or items that do not work correctly.
Additions have been made to Signal finder that allows transponders in blindscan to be seen. A list of found transponders is stored in /tmp for every successful blindscan that returns transponders. Signal finder has been edited to allow the loading of the blindscan transponders so the signal may be checked or the transponders may be scanned.
The Signal finder does a scan of the transponder automatically, and an option to press the yellow button appears if this scan returns channels or services. Once you press the yellow button after channels or services are found, you have the option to exit or scan the transponder, which will add what was found to your channel file. The scan in the signal finder has been improved and shows channels and services that were previously not seen or ignored.
In images dated 0407 or later:
Additions have been made to Signal finder that allows transponders in blindscan to be seen. A list of found transponders is stored in /tmp for every successful blindscan that returns transponders. Signal finder has been edited to allow the loading of the blindscan transponders so the signal may be checked or the transponders may be scanned.
The Signal finder does a scan of the transponder automatically, and an option to press the yellow button appears if this scan returns channels or services. Once you press the yellow button after channels or services are found, you have the option to exit or scan the transponder, which will add what was found to your channel file. The scan in the signal finder has been improved and shows channels and services that were previously not seen or ignored.
In images dated 0407 or later:
el bandido
TNAP-Images
TNAP EPG has been updated to include the LPB channels on 101w Ku.
Qviart Dual, clean flash:
1) The signal always remains at 100%, as in previous releases.
2) There's something wrong with the epgimport plugin, ever since the first release of version 7.
When I click on the "Installed Plugins" section, I see an epgimport error.
I fixed it by removing the plugin and installing epgimport by Lululla (v99.6).
3) With the 05.04.26 release, the image crashes every time I try to access the channel list "menu."
I'm attaching the crash log.
4) If I move the "picon" folder from the flash drive to the pendrive, I no longer see the picons.
5) Changes to the decoder display (VFD control) aren't applied.
Even if I set it to "always clock," it doesn't appear; the display always shows "LD65."
I had already reported this problem when version 7 was first released.
6) image startup is very slow, much slower than all other images.
1) The signal always remains at 100%, as in previous releases.
2) There's something wrong with the epgimport plugin, ever since the first release of version 7.
When I click on the "Installed Plugins" section, I see an epgimport error.
I fixed it by removing the plugin and installing epgimport by Lululla (v99.6).
3) With the 05.04.26 release, the image crashes every time I try to access the channel list "menu."
I'm attaching the crash log.
4) If I move the "picon" folder from the flash drive to the pendrive, I no longer see the picons.
5) Changes to the decoder display (VFD control) aren't applied.
Even if I set it to "always clock," it doesn't appear; the display always shows "LD65."
I had already reported this problem when version 7 was first released.
6) image startup is very slow, much slower than all other images.
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Installed image SF8008-20260409 MultiBoot clean - source from Menu -> Setup -> Software Management -> Flash Images -> TNAP 7. During First Run Setup, I got into a loop where I could not exit from Tuner Setup. Buttons didn't allow me to save the Config. Ended up power cycling the receiver. Had 3 crashes in a row doing initial setup. See attached files.
FYI, I did the Blind Scan and the Signal Finder Scan on 101°W 12000 V 20000 for the Mood Music channels. The Music channels are not displayed. Is my expectation for them to Scan in automatically and play normally? I uploaded a Bouquet with manually entered PIDs for the Mood Music channels and they all play fine.
FYI, I did the Blind Scan and the Signal Finder Scan on 101°W 12000 V 20000 for the Mood Music channels. The Music channels are not displayed. Is my expectation for them to Scan in automatically and play normally? I uploaded a Bouquet with manually entered PIDs for the Mood Music channels and they all play fine.
el bandido
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1) Which Qviart Dual distro actually displays signal correctly? NONE that I know of. This is manufacturer neglect.
2) I am not in Europe and do not have access to the European EPG unless maybe I download and install a channels list somehow.
Efforts were made last night to get the epgimport to work for you. You will need to test it and see. But you have a solution which is to use the alternate epgimport plugin. Would be nice though to have everything work "Out-of-the-Box". So see if my edits were good.
3) The crash log you attached was mostly empty in the area that we need to see. So the crash log has been adjusted for better output. The Menu inside the channel list does not crash for me and no one else has reported it. But we need to fix it if it is broken. The attached screencap shows the menu I think you are trying to access. Install 0104-2026 image when it is available and re-test. Post crash log if it crashes. Maybe we will see the exact problem this time.
4) For picons on a pendrive to work, three things must be true:
1. The folder must be named exactly picon (lowercase, singular) — or ZZPicon / XPicon if you changed the foldername setting. The scanner looks for [mountpoint]/picon/ exactly. A folder named Picons, picons, PICON, etc. will not be found.
2. The folder must contain .png or .svg files directly inside it — not in subfolders. The discovery check (Picon.py:46-50) looks for at least one .png or .svg directly in the folder to confirm it's a valid picon dir.
3. A full enigma2 restart after moving — activePiconPath is cached after the first successful picon lookup. If any picons were found on flash before, that path stays cached for the whole session. Only a restart clears it.
Rename the folder on the pendrive to exactly picon, make sure the .png files are directly inside it (not in a subdirectory), plug it in,
and restart enigma2 (not just the box — a GUI restart via Menu → Standby/Restart → Restart GUI is enough).
5) This should be fixed in 10-04-2026 or Later.
6) What is "slow"? 1 second, 10 seconds, or 5 minutes? Precisely time a different distro and see how long it takes as compared to TNAP 7. There is probably not much I can do, but at least some idea of "slow" would help. Make sure the distros are set as near identical as possible. Have Wireguard and other items running.
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el bandido
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Thanks for the info and logs. The Install wizard has been edited and hopefully that will solve the Crash problem.
Re Hidden Mood Music Radio Channels:
In the receiver, there resides a list of the Mood Music Channels: /lib/dvb/hidden_channels_101w_12000v.txt.
That list is loaded into the lamedb which is your channel file when the right conditions are met.
Conditions for loading these channels:
(1) Satellite orbit has to be EXACTLY 100.9W-101.0W. Transponder has to be 12000V (±1MHz for blindscan compatibility), SR20000 transponder (11998-12002). This is etched in stone. As you can see, a small amount of room is left for blindscan, but not much.
(2) The Mood Music Channel list has to reside in the proper location of the receiver.
(3) Code is written that says when that transponder is scanned on either of those satellite locations, then load the Mood Music Channels into lamedb. No and's if's or but's....It has to happen if the conditions are met!
We will walk through it in screenshots, and if that does not do it then I will go to the trouble to make a video. But this works. It simply does not have a choice if all conditions are met.
Here we see there are no radio channels for 100.9w
We will scan the one transponder that belongs to this satellite:
Scan Completes...
Note the Mood Music Radio Channels now exist:
Note that the Radio Pid is correct:
This works on two Ku satellites. And it also works in blindscan, providing the found transponder is within the accepted tolerance.
If you want to verify the pids, then examine the file: /lib/dvb/hidden_channels_101w_12000v.txt
It does not have any choice but to work --If the conditions are met...
Question about EPG: Are
Is EPG information for the PBS channels on 99.0°W KU, available too? If so, how do I activate the feature.
el bandido
TNAP-Images
@ Babadem, Yes, 99.W Ku has epg. Set it and forget about it.It is simple to get TNAP EPG to work. The channels that have EPG have to be scanned onto your receiver EXACTLY as shown else it will not work. And the sources in epgimport have to be checked I think there is 3 or 4 sources for North American EPG. Anyway a thread on the subject is here: TNAP FTA Satellite EPG
El Bandido,
Yes, everything is working as you expertly depicted. I was looking in the wrong place. Arrrg. All is well. Thanks!
el bandido
TNAP-Images
Excellent!
Now looking for more crashes bugs or problems....
Straightforward version bump — all 6 GStreamer components updated from 1.28.1 → 1.28.2 in lockstep. This will be finished in a bit. Dated 0410.
Now looking for more crashes bugs or problems....
Straightforward version bump — all 6 GStreamer components updated from 1.28.1 → 1.28.2 in lockstep. This will be finished in a bit. Dated 0410.