TNAP-7 Image Discussion

[el bandido]

Hello el bandido
The translation is now correct at the end of the scan.
However, C-band is still displayed after the channel search (even though satellite verification is no longer enabled).
The dB value for frequencies that are not locked is incorrect; it remains at the value of the last locked frequency.
(With version 6xx of TNAP, this worked correctly.)

Attach the satellites.xml file you are using. It may show the wrong C-band problem.

You are using the No T2MI driver which displays fake signals when Allow signal below lock is set to yes. Either change the driver or change Allow signal below lock to No. The 700 MHz Europe driver is probably better for you. Drivers can be changed using the driver selector plugin.

Driver Selector Plugin


Change to this and press the Green remote button to install the driver:


Change this setting if you want to use the No T2MI driver:


Will need to see the satellites.xml file you are using to understand the C band problem.

 

[stephan94]

Thanks, el bandido
After changing the driver (700 MHz Europe), it works for signals that aren't locked.
Here is the satellites.xml file

 

[eelstrebor]

I got TNAP 7 operational but I need to change ownership of /media from root:root to root:disk but the system won't let me do so even though I telnetted in as root. chmod did not wok on /media either. I had no problem with executing chown -R root:disk /media with earlier TNAPs. One other note is that I had to manually scan 4120 on G19 (99W) to get the ABC feeds because blindscan would not pick up the transponder.

 

[el bandido]

Qviart Dual:
- If I leave the channel list open, the clock freezes.
- If I restart Enigma2 after installing the InfoBarWeather plugin, the image keeps restarting in a loop.
If I recall correctly, this bug wasn't present in the image from June 30th.

I downloaded the image using the receiver's menus. Installed a few channels and did nothing else except install InfoBar weather plugin. My clock on the receiver's display or on the receiver worked correctly and did not freeze. I gig not have any bootloops.

If you continue to have problems, provide the correct enigma2 version and the image build date. A log should be in /home/root/logs of the receiver when a bootloop occurs. Please provide any logs. Thanks.

 

[el bandido]

Hello el bandido
The translation is now correct at the end of the scan.
However, C-band is still displayed after the channel search (even though satellite verification is no longer enabled).
The dB value for frequencies that are not locked is incorrect; it remains at the value of the last locked frequency.
(With version 6xx of TNAP, this worked correctly.)

I cannot replicate this problem.

Every time Service Scan is ran, a log is generated. By default, the logs will be in /tmp of receiver files. You can make a folder named ServiceScan and install the folder onto a USB drive. Insert the USB into the receiver and then the scan logs should be found in the ServiceScan folder of the USB drive.

It would be a good idea to see the antenna settings. In Telnet or Terminal, enter: grep 'config.Nims' /etc/enigma2/settings then post the output.

 

[el bandido]

I got TNAP 7 operational but I need to change ownership of /media from root:root to root:disk but the system won't let me do so even though I telnetted in as root. chmod did not wok on /media either. I had no problem with executing chown -R root:disk /media with earlier TNAPs. One other note is that I had to manually scan 4120 on G19 (99W) to get the ABC feeds because blindscan would not pick up the transponder.

TNAP 7 mounts /media as tmpfs during boot. Because tmpfs is recreated each boot,a manual chown of /media does not survive reboot. This small init script runslate in rcS and restores only the parent /media directory to root:disk, mode 1777.It does not recursively modify mounted drives or recordings.

As a fix, Copy and paste the code below into the receiver's telnet erminal and then press enter.

cat > /etc/init.d/fix-media-group <<'EOF'
#!/bin/sh
#
# fix-media-group
#
# TNAP/OpenPLi-style fix for images that mount /media as tmpfs at boot.
# This changes ONLY the parent /media directory to root:disk, mode 1777.
# It does NOT recursively change /media/hdd, /media/usb, recordings, backups, etc.

case "$1" in
    start|restart)
        if [ ! -d /media ]; then
            exit 0
        fi

        if ! grep -q '^disk:' /etc/group; then
            echo "fix-media-group: group 'disk' not found"
            exit 0
        fi

        chown root:disk /media 2>/dev/null
        chmod 1777 /media 2>/dev/null
        ;;
    stop)
        ;;
    *)
        echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}"
        exit 1
        ;;
esac
exit 0
EOF

Then run these commands in telnet.
chmod 755 /etc/init.d/fix-media-group
ln -sf ../init.d/fix-media-group /etc/rcS.d/S99fix-media-group
reboot

As for your missing transponder, this was explained a bit in post 544. A scan log was made and uploaded so you could see the transponder is found, --just not on your receiver. So what is TNAP supposed to do about that??? The scan log has yet to be downloaded.

A scan log is generated every time a service scan is ran. These logs are not "Eye Candy". They are generated to provide information about what happens in a scan. The scan log may pinpoint a problem or it may not... If you want help with a scanning problem, then post the scan log. Simple enough. Attached is just one example of what can be done with scan logs.

 

[el bandido]

Attempts have been made to add a graph in blindscan as a visual aide. Different receivers behave in different ways when this graph code is presented to them. Edision which has a similar tuner as some other receivers does not want to display anything unless the driver is modded. Anyway, I thought this would be a nice addition for those that like to blindscan.

 

[stephan94]

Hello el bandido
Another oddity: every time I do a full restart, a message appears about an update, but in reality, that update doesn't exist??
Here is the scan log, plus a short video showing the fake update, a video showing the end of the blind scan, and finally the settings.
I hope we can find an explanation for these minor issues.

 

[tamicia]

I downloaded the image using the receiver's menus. Installed a few channels and did nothing else except install InfoBar weather plugin. My clock on the receiver's display or on the receiver worked correctly and did not freeze. I gig not have any bootloops.

If you continue to have problems, provide the correct enigma2 version and the image build date. A log should be in /home/root/logs of the receiver when a bootloop occurs. Please provide any logs. Thanks.

The Enigma2 version was the one from July 3rd (I’m attaching the logs from the first five Enigma2 restarts).
I had to re-flash the system, but this time I performed a clean flash without restoring the TNAP configuration backup from the previous release.
So, after the clean flash, I immediately installed InfoBarWeather; it’s working now and doesn't crash.
Clearly, something was going wrong when restoring the TNAP configuration backup.
Everything is fine now, including the time display, which used to freeze whenever I left the channel list open.
Thanks!
Ciao!

 

[el bandido]

Hello el bandido
Another oddity: every time I do a full restart, a message appears about an update, but in reality, that update doesn't exist??
Here is the scan log, plus a short video showing the fake update, a video showing the end of the blind scan, and finally the settings.
I hope we can find an explanation for these minor issues.

Check closely. If it says there is an update, most likely, There Is an update! Usually a single update will be the bootlogo, but not always. If you are seeing a "Ghost update" or an update that does not exist then we need to know what the Name of the update is along with enigma2 date and image build date.

Changes to ServiceScan were added today that should solve the naming issues in the scan. Let me know if they still exist after todfay's update and we will try something else.

One Software update:

 

[el bandido]

A blindscan graph has been added in today's update for Octagon SF8008 and Edision receivers. For Edision, you will need to load the T2MI-Module-TNAP-Mod driver using the driver selector plugin. This is the only driver that will work correctly with the graph. Other drivers may be used, but the graph will not display properly. The graph can be used for things like tracking motor movement and also gives an idea the scan is working.

 

[el bandido]

There is a crash when multiboot is selected. A six for that is pending.

 

[stephan94]

The problem after the blind scan and the C-band indication has been resolved—it's working.
I did change the driver using my Edition; the spectrum is surprising—I don’t quite understand it, but that’s okay.
The phantom update is still there after a full restart; it doesn’t have a name. And it says the update doesn’t exist when I click “Yes” to install it.

 

[el bandido]

The phantom update, Select Ja — Yes. See if a package name is displayed. I do not have the problem on my receivers which makes it harder to fix. Thanks.

 

[stephan94]

I was wrong—it's actually a fake “Update Package List” and not a software update.
Why am I getting this message? I have no idea, but it's not coming from TNAP.
Here's the video

 

[stephan94]

Another small problem.
When you set the numbering to start with “1” in each group,
it works once, but after every “restart,” it reverts to the general numbering.
That's not very convenient.

 

[el bandido]

Do an Online Update. Reboot. This update should solve the ghost update and also fix the numbering issue in bouquets.



...After Reboot...

 

[eastof111]

Did online update on the SF8008 from Jun-07 to Jul-15-2026 with no problems after restore and reboot. Only thing I've tried so far is the blind scan.

Tried the blind scan feature on 97 KU.
1st Scan of 97 KU found 11 transponders along with four tv signals using only scan unknown and don't scan lamedb transponders.
Deleted the four found items from Last Scanned.

2nd Scan of 97 KU using same settings found 11 transponders along with four tv signals.
Deleted the four found items from Last Scanned.

3rd Scan of 97 KU using same settings found 11 transponders and zero tv signals.
4th Scan of 97 KU using same settings found 11 transponders and zero tv signals.
4th Scan of 97 KU produced an error message that sat position could not be verified.

I am guessing the four tv signals originally found just stopped transmitting by happenstance.

 

[el bandido]

Did online update on the SF8008 from Jun-07 to Jul-15-2026 with no problems after restore and reboot. Only thing I've tried so far is the blind scan.

Tried the blind scan feature on 97 KU.
1st Scan of 97 KU found 11 transponders along with four tv signals using only scan unknown and don't scan lamedb transponders.
Deleted the four found items from Last Scanned.

2nd Scan of 97 KU using same settings found 11 transponders along with four tv signals.
Deleted the four found items from Last Scanned.

3rd Scan of 97 KU using same settings found 11 transponders and zero tv signals.
4th Scan of 97 KU using same settings found 11 transponders and zero tv signals.
4th Scan of 97 KU produced an error message that sat position could not be verified.

I am guessing the four tv signals originally found just stopped transmitting by happenstance.

It would really help to have the scan logs that are created after every ServiceScan. The logs would provide useful information and probably explain what is happening.

Turn OFF "Verify satellite position after scan." This feature is misunderstood and will be removed. The correct setting for you is (OFF) is shown below.


Your screenshot shows 11 vertical transponders found and at the same time, shows the scan still running. The onscreen message mentions the scan is still running. I also get 11 vertical transponders for 97w ku using the SF8008:


If we let the blindscan complete (white colored transponders instead of yellow), then we could expect around 21 transponders total for 97w ku as when blindscanning with SF8008:


A successful ServiceScan will return over 100 services this evening:


Looking at the attached scan log, out of the 11 transponders found on the vertical side, there should be some channels:
11704 V / 2667 Services found 0
11722 V / 2667 Services found 0
11769 V / 7000 Services found 0
11826 V / 4493 Services found 0
11868 V / 25712 Services found 2
11910 V / 3515 Services found 0
11951 V / 6216 Services found 0
12000 V / 3181 Services found 0
12053 V / 21998 Services found 17
12084 V / 20759 Services found 5
12147 V / 21998 Services found 9
Total = 33

The SF8008 is noted for finding useless data transponders in a blindscan. I have no clue why you blindscanned several times and at best got 4 tv services. The system works....

To clarify some settings:

Feature:
Don't scan lamedb transponders
Explanation:
If you select "yes" the scan will only search transponders not listed in lamedb channel file


Feature:
Only scan unknown transponders
Explanation:
If you select "yes" the scan will only search transponders not listed in satellites.xml

If "Don't scan lamedb transponders" and "Only scan unknown transponders" are set to Yes then you will not find much...

 

[el bandido]

Let's run the blindscan again except this time we will exclude all of the transponders in satellites.xml and all of the transponders in our channel file which is named lamedb. here are the menu settings:



Found Transponder results:


And finally the results of scanning those transponders:


4 useless services...Everything is working as designed. NIT verification of the satellite orbit will be deleted in the next build.