Post it. We will see if it can be used or adapted.
TNAP-6 Image Discussion
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0324 Images are online and also available at tnapimages.com. This image contains these additions or updates:
Scan Updates
Add option to disable multistream transponders in blindscan plugin
ADD BoxBranding from OE Alliance. This allows plugins from Oe Alliance to install and run, depending on file structure of the plugin.
Scan Updates
Add option to disable multistream transponders in blindscan plugin
ADD BoxBranding from OE Alliance. This allows plugins from Oe Alliance to install and run, depending on file structure of the plugin.
stephan94
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here are the comparative tests carried out on the Astra satellite, (this satellite has no Multistream)
with the “T2MI Europe 700” driver, deactivating the MIS search gives a worse result than leaving the MIS search activated. The blindscan with this driver is not ideal anyway.
with the “No-T2MI” driver, the result is similar with or without the Multistream search, with this driver the blindscan gives good results anyway.
with the “T2MI Europe 700” driver, deactivating the MIS search gives a worse result than leaving the MIS search activated. The blindscan with this driver is not ideal anyway.
with the “No-T2MI” driver, the result is similar with or without the Multistream search, with this driver the blindscan gives good results anyway.
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What is the lowest symbol rate that is useful in the MIO4K receivers?
Normal scanning is 950-2150MHz. The 700 driver scans 700-2150MHz. Do you actually need 700 MHz? Could it be set to 750-2150 MHz or higher(800-2159MHz)?
Normal scanning is 950-2150MHz. The 700 driver scans 700-2150MHz. Do you actually need 700 MHz? Could it be set to 750-2150 MHz or higher(800-2159MHz)?
stephan94
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I believe that with the MIO4K (with the ocean modification) I managed to obtain an sr of 480, otherwise without modification it was sr 940.
the scan down to 700 is only useful for the 26° East satellite and its specific frequency band for amateur radios (which transmit between 10490 and 10500 H), which can be received with a standard LNB, although this is also limited by the ability to read small sr, as radio transmitters always transmit with sr of 125; 250; 500; and 1000. In this case, the Ustym 4K pro (old Si2166D tuner) is much better; however, with a dedicated LNB (as Ocean's 700 modification does not apply to this tuner).
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In case it hasn't been reported, blindscan misses some transponders such as 4120V34286-2/3 at 97W, DVB-S2, 16APSK. I was able to manually scan that transponder to get the services.
Which receiver has the the problem blindscanning 4120V34286-2/3 at 97W??????
lme
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osmio+ scanned for me, but do not forget it is a feed tp, so is not always broadcasting !
I've been testing v6 on my Mio 4k.
I see that you've created a new satellite entry for the Mood Music transponder, but the channel list is still set up for the now-undefined old location. (I did a fresh install without backup.)
More importantly, I've been having serious blind scan issues. I'm using the No-T2MI driver because I found that it gave the most accurate results under v5. With the first versions of v6, I had a problem with 99W Ku. The blind scan would never find the PBS transponder, and then the channel scan would hang on one of the other transponders (I think it was the one with all the NPR feeds.) Now with the most current version, 99W Ku works fine, but I'm having other problems. On 87W Ku, the blind scan reports 7 transponders found, but then when I proceed to the channel scan portion, it suddenly claims there are only two transponders (the full-time CNN feeds and the Florida channels -- no Louisiana PBS and no temporary feeds.) I didn't test much further yet, but I did notice that on 97W Ku it only finds about half the transponders, seemingly at random. 97W isn't the hottest bird in the sky, but all of its transponders are full-time, I believe they're all still not DVB-S2, and there's no adjacent-satellite interference on any of them, so it should scan exactly the same all the time. (I rebooted into v5 to verify that everything still works fine there -- no dish problems or atmospheric problems. I did not try any other tuner drivers under v6.)
I see that you've created a new satellite entry for the Mood Music transponder, but the channel list is still set up for the now-undefined old location. (I did a fresh install without backup.)
More importantly, I've been having serious blind scan issues. I'm using the No-T2MI driver because I found that it gave the most accurate results under v5. With the first versions of v6, I had a problem with 99W Ku. The blind scan would never find the PBS transponder, and then the channel scan would hang on one of the other transponders (I think it was the one with all the NPR feeds.) Now with the most current version, 99W Ku works fine, but I'm having other problems. On 87W Ku, the blind scan reports 7 transponders found, but then when I proceed to the channel scan portion, it suddenly claims there are only two transponders (the full-time CNN feeds and the Florida channels -- no Louisiana PBS and no temporary feeds.) I didn't test much further yet, but I did notice that on 97W Ku it only finds about half the transponders, seemingly at random. 97W isn't the hottest bird in the sky, but all of its transponders are full-time, I believe they're all still not DVB-S2, and there's no adjacent-satellite interference on any of them, so it should scan exactly the same all the time. (I rebooted into v5 to verify that everything still works fine there -- no dish problems or atmospheric problems. I did not try any other tuner drivers under v6.)
Need to see the scan reports that are generated after every scan. The scan reports will be in /tmp of receiver files or they should go to an installed usb drive if a folder named exactly ServiceScan is present on the usb drive Its easiest to do a few scans withe the usb drive properly set, then zip and post the ServiceScan folder.
When I tried again tonight, I found that it was scanning 87W with no problems. (I had tried several times last night, and the weather was actually better last night.) On 97W, it was finding more transponders than last night but still missing one or two (again, verified by rebooting to v5.) The log files are attached -- the files with the earlier timestamp are v6, the later timestamp are v5.
I used to have issues with the blind scan being erratic until I rebooted, but I thought these problems went away when I switched to the No-T2MI driver, which is what I'm using for these scans in both v5 and v6. Not to mention, the system was freshly booted last night when I was having the worst issues because I had just done a clean install of v6.
I used to have issues with the blind scan being erratic until I rebooted, but I thought these problems went away when I switched to the No-T2MI driver, which is what I'm using for these scans in both v5 and v6. Not to mention, the system was freshly booted last night when I was having the worst issues because I had just done a clean install of v6.
You have a combination of several things.
First, we do not have a "the most current version" of image. Please post image numbers and dates when referring to an image. Or even better, post a screenshot of the about page. A good example would probably be to ask how the blue button is labeled in blindscan menu. Anyway, this is a moot point as there will be anther image out soon.
Scan logs have a lot of information in them. Looking at the logs show you are on a previous version of TNAP 6, which is OK. Your logs also show signal problems which in turn will cause blindscan problems. For example you have about 9 db on 97w, tp DVB-S 11966H / 21602 while I have 13 db. Then on 87w ku, you have 8.75 db on DVB-S2 8PSK 11804H / 1250, but your Not Locked. Again this points to a signal problem. Then for your driver date, you have this: < DVB Driver Date = 0211-10-3a > when you should have this: < DVB Driver Date = 2021-11-03 > . So check your signal and see if anything can be done to improve it. A low signal usually means you are between two satellites which will cause other scan problems.
As for the mood music, it will be moved when time is available. Thanks for noticing it, and remind if it is not fixed after a decent period of time. There is a "Fix" for mood music on this forum somewhere. You have lamedb merger in Plugins. It is easy to fix it using that plugin.
First, we do not have a "the most current version" of image. Please post image numbers and dates when referring to an image. Or even better, post a screenshot of the about page. A good example would probably be to ask how the blue button is labeled in blindscan menu. Anyway, this is a moot point as there will be anther image out soon.
Scan logs have a lot of information in them. Looking at the logs show you are on a previous version of TNAP 6, which is OK. Your logs also show signal problems which in turn will cause blindscan problems. For example you have about 9 db on 97w, tp DVB-S 11966H / 21602 while I have 13 db. Then on 87w ku, you have 8.75 db on DVB-S2 8PSK 11804H / 1250, but your Not Locked. Again this points to a signal problem. Then for your driver date, you have this: < DVB Driver Date = 0211-10-3a > when you should have this: < DVB Driver Date = 2021-11-03 > . So check your signal and see if anything can be done to improve it. A low signal usually means you are between two satellites which will cause other scan problems.
As for the mood music, it will be moved when time is available. Thanks for noticing it, and remind if it is not fixed after a decent period of time. There is a "Fix" for mood music on this forum somewhere. You have lamedb merger in Plugins. It is easy to fix it using that plugin.
Efforts have been made to add Tsduck to the build. Tsduck will be included in the next build by default, then it will go to feeds after that. Some other things that are currently default installed should probably be moved to feeds as well. Moving items to feeds still allows use of the items, but it shrinks the image size and makes for less clutter. If you don't use it, then you probably do not need it installed I guess.
0403 Images are available online and at tnapimages.com.
This image contains Tsduck for those that know what it is and how to use it.
This image contains Tsduck for those that know what it is and how to use it.
The blindscan plugin menu for TNAP 6 has changed a bit. There is now a multistream selection at the bottom. When multistream is set to off as shown, you will see transponders disappear at the end of the scan because they are MIS transponders.
129 West ku is a good, dependable place for MIS transponders. Shown next is the first stage of the scan completed and 14 transponders found.
But when the second stage of the scan completes, Only One transponder is shown. This happens because MIS is turned off in the blindscan plugin menu.
As another example, MIS was turned ON and the full range of the Universal ku lnb was allowed to scan which returned this:
Hopefully this clears up WHY transponders "mysteriously" disappear. It is all in the blindscan menu settings.
In the blindscan menu, look to the bottom right of the screen and you will see the blue button labeled as "Reset defaults". In a nutshell, all of the settings in the blindscan menu except for the satellite have been assigned defaults. This allows the user to customize the blindscan menu and have it saved after exiting from the blindscan menu. Therefore, use the Reset defaults feature as wanted or needed.
Also, the third entry from the top in the blindscan menu is: "Start Dish Motor". TNAP blindscan is set to not start the satellite dish motor until you tell it to or until the scan starts. The plugin is set up this way to avoid unwanted dish motor movement.
129 West ku is a good, dependable place for MIS transponders. Shown next is the first stage of the scan completed and 14 transponders found.
But when the second stage of the scan completes, Only One transponder is shown. This happens because MIS is turned off in the blindscan plugin menu.
As another example, MIS was turned ON and the full range of the Universal ku lnb was allowed to scan which returned this:
Hopefully this clears up WHY transponders "mysteriously" disappear. It is all in the blindscan menu settings.
In the blindscan menu, look to the bottom right of the screen and you will see the blue button labeled as "Reset defaults". In a nutshell, all of the settings in the blindscan menu except for the satellite have been assigned defaults. This allows the user to customize the blindscan menu and have it saved after exiting from the blindscan menu. Therefore, use the Reset defaults feature as wanted or needed.
Also, the third entry from the top in the blindscan menu is: "Start Dish Motor". TNAP blindscan is set to not start the satellite dish motor until you tell it to or until the scan starts. The plugin is set up this way to avoid unwanted dish motor movement.
The "0211-10-3a" driver version is from TNAP5, not TNAP6. I was trying to show the difference between the two images. Zip put them in order by filename rather than chronological order.
As for the version of TNAP6, it was the last one on the server at the time, dated March 24. I didn't do any online updates after installing it, maybe I should've.
By the way, if I go to the multiboot menu in TNAP5, the TNAP6 version installed shows the wrong date entirely. It reads correctly in TNAP6.
Yes. Online updates were there, and some adjustments were in the update. Just download and install 0403 image. It should take all of 5 minutes using autorestore, depending on your download speed.
No More work or maintenance being done to TNAP 5 image series. Unfortunately, It is what it is. There is simply no more support for TNAP 5 or earlier versions.
The main work on TNAP 6 is finished. Nothing left but cleaning up. If something is wrong with TNAP 6....Now is the time to let it be known!
No More work or maintenance being done to TNAP 5 image series. Unfortunately, It is what it is. There is simply no more support for TNAP 5 or earlier versions.
The main work on TNAP 6 is finished. Nothing left but cleaning up. If something is wrong with TNAP 6....Now is the time to let it be known!